KTF

[RouletteGhost]

-RG

No there are a few.
I thought you said yoiu were going to read all the pages of this thread.

Check post 648.

-Celtic

thank you

i just read it

wow what a roller coaster that was

the only difference id make is aborting after 1 win

1 win per airball machine. use the history board for my 10 number reference. go in immediately. once im positive at ALL even if its $6 next machine

the ONLY difference i make to the KTF rules is the win goal being lower. less exposure and move on

[nottophammer]

Are you playing random #’s with KTF? To me no. Why. Like in GUT we start with 37 #’s, they are all unique at that moment. As the 0x’s become 1x’s and reduces in number, what says the 0x’s are random #’s, when we are playing unique 0x’s, they are not just say 20 randomly picked #’s.
Have you ever checked the 0x’s in KTF, let’s look at the 14th 0x. Because the games are always played the same, the information that’s collected is the same for each game. So at present time the 14th 0x averages to come in within 2spins and has a max of 4spins in 100 recorded games.
Would the results in the average document be the same for 24 randomly picked #’s? Let’s say you pick dozen1 & 2, are these a random 24#’s, unlike the 24 #'s we’d be betting in KTF for the 14th 0x which have been reduced from 37 unique #’s.

Whats the answer?

[NextYear]

Would the results in the average document be the same for 24 randomly picked #’s?

"Of course not!" - would say cousin from some old TV show.

Of course not, should say everyone that can read!
I mean, you are giving so many Facts!

[psimoes]

I´d say No. The stats can be valid for individual numbers and not for a static set of numbers. But random flow is fractal so something alike could probably be devised on another scale for single dozens.

It´s fascinating that the 0xs in the last 37 spins might have been the 4xs in the previous.

[nottophammer]

psimoes
This is why i disregard the maths. Althou i'll except the formula works, otherwise how would man have got to the moon, know distance to moon, etc,etc.
A few posts back Denzie asked about a number hitting twice, math came up with every 1,000 odd spins. Well look at todays #'s,i've marked with X.
By the way a hard trot/count but +1/-1 got KTF to +77.

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jackpotjoy 6.4.16
1 10
2 8
3 35
4 5
5 2
6 6
7 10
8 2
9 33
10 32
11 1
12 8 X
13 8 X
14 6
15 23
16 5
17 3 X
18 3 X
19 17
20 22
21 30
22 27
23 20
24 31
25 33
26 36
27 16
28 5
29 26
30 10
31 21
32 7
33 6 X
34 6 X
35 29
36 3
37 18
38 28
39 16
40 28
41 0
42 8
43 23
44 12
45 9
46 24
47 11
48 18
49 4
50 26
51 27
52 21
53 23
54 13
55 19
56 33
57 30
58 4
59 22
60 10

61 0
62 13
63 7
64 1
65 8
66 27
67 34
68 17
69 14
70 10
71 23
72 4
73 22
74 9
75 4
76 1
77 10
78 19
79 26
80 20
81 14
82 9 X
83 9 X

Oh yeah useless piece of info,but the compare on the show informed us that #9 is hot, has been out 12 times in 300 spins

[nottophammer]

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16738.msg149856#msg149856

Reply 3, look who gave this figure

[nottophammer]

LOL aside,Turners okay, so are Mr j and General, just dont necessarily have to agree with their answers.
But you can see if math says
Its not 1/37 at all

Its 1/37 x 1/37

Once ever 1370 spins 
you'd never get anywhere.

[psimoes]

It´s one every 37 spins. One every thousand and so spins is the probability of specific number, not any of the 37, of hitting back to back. That trot is just deviation at work.

[nottophammer]

Now the reset/move ?
On the sheet  each game has won on spin 11. Now i'd just watch till the 10 spins 11-20 are done. Now on the sheet we collect spins 21-30, on spins 31 game 3/4/16 win +9
                                   31 game 4/4/16 win +7
                                   31 game 5/4/16 win +7

I said to celticknits i was not going to be putting sheets up much more as i have the 100 games in the average doc, and its still growing.
But as flat bet has come up on KTF i've still got some interest in the subject, Mr J i could not careless if KTF just fades away, some will have found the topic helpfull, some not.

To todays sheet, i said a few posts back if flat bet take the 1st + to the BR.
So spins 1-10 tells us the bet on spin 11 is 29 units, win +7, now just watch. Now we wait and see what spins 21-30 give, bet on spin 31 27 units, win +9, spin 51 look back to spins 41-50 again bet 27 units, win +9.
Just away to flat bet.
Thank you for your time, good luck.

[nottophammer]

It´s one every 37 spins. One every thousand and so spins is the probability of specific number, not any of the 37, of hitting back to back. That trot is just deviation at work.

Thanks for the post but i dont bother with the math, if i listen to the math, i'd give up roulette as the cant win so you cant win brigade would win.

[psimoes]

Hence why I don´t play for real anymore. I´m down 60 units and can´t play VB where I am.

BTW what´s your net profit with KTF?

[nottophammer]

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Date       win lose total
22.12.15 62
23.12.15 56
24.12.15 93
27.12.15 57
28.12.15 52
29.12.15 45
30.12.15 50
31.12.15 50
02.01.16 56
03.01.16 65
04.01.16 57
05.01.16 45
06.01.16 51
07.01.16 50
08.01.16 59
09.01.16 45
10.01.16 47
11.01.16 49
12.01.16 51
13.01.16 50
14.01.16 59
15.01.16 45
16.01.16 45
17.01.16 50
18.01.16 45
19.01.16 38
20.01.16 43
21.01.16 45 1398
22.01.16 655
23.01.16 52
24.01.16 50
25.01.16 38
26.01.16 50
27.01.16 38
28.01.16 57
29.01.16 48
30.01.16 54
31.01.16 56
01.02.16 46
02.02.16 51
03.02.16 45
04.02.16 54
05.02.16 46
06.02.16 39
07.02.16 45
08.02.16 42
09.02.16 44
10.02.16 53
11.02.16 34
12.02.16 38
13.02.16 47
14.02.16 45
15.02.16 50
16.02.16 59
17.02.16 45
18.02.16 56
19.02.16 29
20.02.16 59
21.02.16 45
22.02.16 66
23.02.16 38
24.02.16 51
25.02.16 53
26.02.16 57
27.02.16 50
28.02.16 53
29.02.16 44
01.03.16 52
02.03.16 53
03.03.16 63
04.03.16 45
05.03.16 50
06.03.16 51
07.03.16 41
08.03.16 49
09.03.16 45
10.03.16 47
11.03.16 53
12.03.16 79
13.03.16 66
14.03.16 46
15.03.16 42
16.03.16 43
17.03.16 41
18.03.16 40
19.03.16 50
20.03.16 53
21.03.16 41
22.03.16 42
23.03.16 50
24.03.16 47
25.03.16 75
26.03.16 50
27.03.16 43
28.03.16 47
29.03.16 48
30.03.16 79
31.03.16 59
02.04.16 51
03.04.04 49
04.04.16 49
05.04.16 44







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[tuddilue]

I said to celticknits i was not going to be putting sheets up much more as i have the 100 games in the average doc, and its still growing.
...

I think I speak for more than me when I say that it is really good that you are adding sheets and all that information. I always learn something.

I'm also doing my own sheet after your numbers so for me I always learn something new when comparing with yours.

So for me just sending them up!! I like them alot!
Thanks!

[Celticknits]

I said to celticknits i was not going to be putting sheets up much more as i have the 100 games in the average doc, and its still growing.

I will miss these sheets when they stop coming.


But as flat bet has come up on KTF i've still got some interest in the subject, Mr J i could not careless if KTF just fades away, some will have found the topic helpfull, some not.

If it was not for Your KTF, and the WTF Repeats spin-off, I can honestly say that I would not be playing roulette and would just have gone back to playing Blackjack.

To todays sheet, i said a few posts back if flat bet take the 1st + to the BR.
So spins 1-10 tells us the bet on spin 11 is 29 units, win +7, now just watch. Now we wait and see what spins 21-30 give, bet on spin 31 27 units, win +9, spin 51 look back to spins 41-50 again bet 27 units, win +9.
Just away to flat bet.
Thank you for your time, good luck.

-Celtic

[Celticknits]

-Notto

Forgetting the disaster on January 22, can you tell me what the largest drawdown was on the 99 winning games, and point me to which game that was?

-Celtic