KTF

[nottophammer]

Thanks to celescliff, the numbers are easier to read.
This is Jackpot 24/7.com  29.1.16 

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spin # non hit prog units win (+/-)
0 37
1 9 36
2 24 35
3 35 34
4 22 33
5 26 32
6 21 31
7 10 30
8 29 29
9 8 28
10 31 27
11 29 R 1 27 0 -27
12 26 R 2 54 0 -81
13 1 26 3 81 108 -54
14 24 R 2 52 0 -106
15 17 25 3 78 108 -76
16 34 24 2 50 72 -54
17 32 23 1 24 36 -42
18 22 R 1 23 0 -65
19 36 22 2 46 72 -39
20 9 R 1 22 0 -61
21 25 21 2 44 72 -33
22 15 20 1 21 36 -18
23 33 19 1 20 36 -2
24 25 R 1 19 0 -21
25 1 R 2 38 0 -59
26 23 18 3 57 108 -8
27 22 R 2 36 0 -44
28 19 17 3 54 108 10
29 3 16 2 34 72 48        So if you've followed the Jackpot joy topic you'll have seen you can hit £50/60, well here
30 21 R 1 16                     its +48.00, next bet is £16 if lose,then next bet is £32,if lose 32+16=48.00 profit zero
31 33                                             so stop. Take the win.
32 14
33 1
34 8
35 28
36 9
37 31
38 2
39 2
40 31
41 35
42 12
43 6
44 22
45 31
46 31
47 15
48 15
49 30
50 36
51 3
52 7
53 28
54 24
55 17
56 3
57 12
58 10
59
60


Is every one up to speed

[nottophammer]

Jackpot 24/7.com   30.1.16

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spin # non hit prog units win (+/-)
0 37
1 12 36
2 34 35
3 10 34
4 7 33
5 12 R
6 12 R
7 29 32
8 14 31
9 6 30
10 21 29
11 24 28 1 29 36 7
12 27 27 1 28 36 15
13 10 R 1 27 0 -12
14 30 26 2 54 72 6
15 1 25 1 26 36 16
16 15 24 1 25 36 27
17 1 R 1 24 0 3
18 18 23 2 48 72 27
19 20 22 1 23 36 40
20 4 21 1 22 36 54             Win +£54.00   stop, go to another table, or wait for all 37 numbers to have hit. Then
21 21                                  restart. Good luck.
22 29
23 29
24 11
25 23
26 15
27 10
28 16
29 31
30 32
31 35
32 27
33 0
34 32
35 9
36 23
37 5
38 17
39 13
40 24
41 35
42 25
43
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50
51
52
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[nottophammer]

A sheet to record your spins

[TwoCatSam]

notto

Where could a body find the system rules for KTF? 

Thanks!

Sam

[RouletteGhost]

The way i interpret it is once you have 12 numbers that have not repeated bet those 12. With +1 on a loss

All nottos uploads look great. Always wins

[NextYear]

Wrong RG, this is other one.

After 10 spins you bet all unhit numbers with +1/-1 prog.

[RouletteGhost]

Wrong RG, this is other one.

After 10 spins you bet all unhit numbers with +1/-1 prog.

ok thanks for correcting me

[RouletteGhost]

so do we continue to bet those 26 numbers until win goal is reached? or as they hit stop betting them

[NextYear]

so do we continue to bet those 26 numbers until win goal is reached? or as they hit stop betting them

When you lose, you bet +1=2 on all unhit numbers, if lose again, then +1=3 units on all unhit numbers .
On hit, you take of winning number and -1 on all unhit numbers.

That is how I understand Notto, his word will be last.

[nottophammer]

Wrong RG, this is other one.

After 10 spins you bet all unhit numbers with +1/-1 prog.

Yes as simple as that. Well done nextyear. Good luck to all

[nottophammer]

Some have followed Jackpot joy thread will know that it is not a HG, it seems possible to win 50/60 units in spins 11-20.
Now like Winkel says its your choice when to stop, so you will have seen some times i've taken +45 or even +38, as said its your decision.
It could be start to bet at spin 11 and just press on,if you have a good BR, the bets obviously start large, but the good thing is it gets cheaper as the non hit,hit.
Over time i've found +1/-1 to be the best way to stake.
The game i'll post soon has been sent to me so know idea where they come from, in JJ topic on the sheets you'll seen at the bottom of the 10 spins how the trot is going, like 4,-1 or 8,+3. This is to do with average,you can see this in Jackpot joy average doc posted in Jackpot joy thread.
Can't think of anythink else, if you need just ask.

[nottophammer]

Mr WG sent these.
What makes this hard to come back is betting at just over 1/3 it takes 5 spins to hit, this is not unknown to me, as i've seen it numerous times on the machine of death, I LOVE THAT RG.
These numbers play to the average of 15.67742 in spins 11-40, as we've only got 37 spins in total, 8/ non hit in spins 1-10, so the next 30 spins that would be the 40th spin you would expect to see 23 non hit to have hit, well you can see 16 have already hit by the 37th spin, so +1 on the average of 15 already.
I see this on friday on the machine of death in corals 29.1.16 its posted in RNG, i had 9 in 1st 10 spins, so i would expect to see at 40th spins 24 non hit,well the 24th non hit,hit in spins 21 to 30, 10 spins to early. So its not unknown to lose betting at 1/3 on.
Look at Ladbrokes same day on the same sheet 11th non hit, so 26 non hit left and took 5 spins to come in, but KTF still made £122, corals made £57,

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spin # non hit prog units win (+/-)
0 37
1 21 36
2 -3 35
3 32 34
4 -8 33
5 33 R
6 10 R
7 -8 32
8 -8 31
9 -4 30
10 25 29
11 33 R 1 29 0 -29
12 -8 R 2 58 0 -87
13 10 R 3 87 0 -174
14 32 R 4 116 0 -290
15 29 28 5 145 180 -255
16 -4 R 4 112 0 -367
17 32 R 5 140 0 -507
18 18 27 6 168 216 -459
19 19 26 5 135 180 -414
20 0 25 4 104 144 -374
21 23 24 3 75 108 -341
22 34 23 2 48 72 -317
23 14 22 1 23 36 -304
24 -3 R 1 22 0 -326
25 12 21 2 44 72 -298
26 10 R 1 21 0 -319
27 -1 20 2 42 72 -289
28 -4 R 1 20 0 -309
29 31 19 2 40 72 -277
30 24 18 1 19 36 -260
31 15 17 1 18 36 -242
32 -9 16 1 17 36 -223
33 29 R 1 16 0 -239
34 -6 15 2 32 72 -199
35 17 14 1 15 36 -178
36 14 R 1 14 0 -192
37 30 13 2 28 72 -148
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[nottophammer]

In Jackpot joy average the Game dated 28.12.15  gets 18 non hit in 30 spins +3, non hit in 60 spins is 31,60 divided by 2 is 30, so 1 more non hit than 30.
I would have stopped at spin 23,13th spin of betting, +£52.00.

Where would you stop.

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spin # non hit prog units win (+/-)
0 37
1 30 36
2 24 35
3 19 34
4 12 33
5 13 32
6 30 R
7 29 31
8 26 30
9 1 29
10 11 28
11 26 R 1 28 0 -28
12 14 27 2 56 72 -12
13 13 R 1 27 0 -39
14 21 26 2 54 72 -21
15 5 25 1 26 36 -11
16 16 24 1 25 36 0
17 11 R 1 24 0 -24
18 10 23 2 48 72 0
19 23 22 1 23 36 13
20 35 21 1 22 36 27
21 14 R 1 21 0 6
22 25 20 2 42 72 36
23 8 19 1 20 36 52
24 20 18 1 19 36 69
25 8 R 1 18 0 51
26 0 17 2 36 72 87
27 15 16 1 17 36 106
28 6 15 1 16 36 126
29 26 R 1 15 0 111
30 17 14 2 30 72 153
31 26 R 1 14 0 139
32 31 13 2 28 72 183
33 6 R 1 13 0 170
34 2 12 2 26 72 216
35 20 R 1 12 0 204
36 21 R 2 24 0 180
37 35 R 3 36 0 144
38 33 11 4 48 144 240
39 34 10 3 33 108 315
40 5 R 2 20 0 295
41 2 R 3 30 0 265
42 31 R 4 40 0 225
43 30 R 5 50 0 175
44 13 R 6 60 0 115
45 23 R 7 70 0 45
46 8 R 8 80 0 -35
47 27 9 9 90 324 199
48 22 8 8 72 288 415
49 9 7 7 56 252 611
50 17 R 6 42 0 569
51 22 R 7 49 0 520
52 28 R 8 56 0 464
53 0 R 9 63 0 401
54 1 R 10 70 0 331
55 3 6 11 77 396 650
56 22
57 3
58 6
59 17
60 21


[nottophammer]

3spins +£30.00 should taken the winnings, But as you can KEEP THE FAITH  press on and you've got your +£56.00,
-1 on the 15 in 30spins, also 1 down on 30 non hits in 60 spins

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spin # non hit prog units win (+/-)
0 37
1 35 36
2 29 35
3 32 34
4 1 33
5 19 32
6 18 31
7 3 30
8 11 29
9 17 28
10 0 27
11 12 26 1 27 36 9
12 30 25 1 26 36 19
13 14 24 1 25 36 30 should have taken the £30.00
14 17 R 1 24 0 6
15 18 R 2 48 0 -42
16 26 23 3 72 108 -6
17 6 22 2 46 72 20
18 3 R 1 22 0 -2
19 19 R 2 44 0 -46
20 30 R 3 66 0 -112
21 27 21 4 88 144 -56
22 31 20 3 63 108 -11
23 13 19 2 40 72 21
24 4 18 1 19 36 38
25 29 R 1 18 0 20
26 15 17 2 36 72 56 stop £56.00
27 0 56
28 35 56
29 33 56
30 6 56
31 22 56
32 3 56
33 32 56
34 31 56
35 25 56
36 31 56
37 4 56
38 28 56
39 32 56
40 33 56
41 34 56
42 16 56
43 35 56
44 27 56
45 9 56
46 27 56
47 6 56
48 23 56
49 5 56
50 14 56
51 3 56
52 3 56
53 13 56
54 26 56
55 3 56
56 17
57 9
58 28
59 34
60 25


[nottophammer]

These numbers where from under the gun in Holy Grail reply 60
Had a problem flat bet.
So how does betting the non hit only fair. +£51.00  #35 12th spin of betting.

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spin # non hit prog units win (+/-)
0 37
1 0 36
2 34 35
3 19 34
4 6 33
5 36 32
6 4 31
7 11 30
8 2 29
9 17 28 stake
10 21 27 non-hit return
11 5 26 1 27 36 9
12 10 25 1 26 36 19
13 28 24 1 25 36 30
14 21 R 1 24 0 6
15 6 R 2 48 0 -42
16 29 23 3 72 108 -6
17 33 22 2 46 72 20
18 19 R 1 22 0 -2
19 32 21 2 44 72 26
20 0 R 1 21 0 5
21 1 20 2 42 72 35
22 35 19 1 20 36 51
23 17 R
24 36 R
25 18 18
26 5 R
27 33 R
28 4 R
29 24 17
30 33 R
31 29 R
32 33 R
33 13 16
34 3 15
35 31 14
36 29 R
37 31 R
38 34 R
39 18 R
40 25 13
41 28 R
42 5 R
43 20 12
44 4 R
45 13 R
46 33 R
47 4 R
48 1 R
49 9 11
50 1 R
51 36 R
52 25 R
53 15 10
54 19 R
55 17 R
56 30 9
57 13 R
58 27 8
59 25 R
60 0 R

61 2
62 26
63 36
64 28
65 7
66 5
67 11
68 21
69 3
70 0
71 3
72 32
73 21
74 22
75 21
76 23
77 24
78 30
79 0
80 27
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