KTF

[nottophammer]

   jackpotjoy 10.2.16  KTF +£53  #19  12th bet of betting
1   8
2   31
3   24
4   12
5   11
6   20
7   22
8   27
9   1
10   2
11   4
12   20
13   33
14   11
15   18
16   23
17   30
18   7
19   12
20   1
21   3
22   19
23   27
24   12
25   14
26   4
27   24
28   1
29   28
30   35
31   24
32   18
33   9
34   25
35   15
36   33
37   25
38   16
39   15
40   6
41   13
42   35
43   25
44   15
45   6
46   14
47   12
48   4
49   30
50   7
51   35
52   35
53   30
54   14
55   16
56   20
57   8
58   21
59   9
60   32
   
61   34
62   6
63   20
64   2
65   4
66   18
67   9
68   22
69   13
70   27
71   1
72   17
73   3
74   12

[nottophammer]

To NH and everyone testing here:

Might be a good idea to keep a running total in units.

I've found that threads that keep this info up-to-date with testing, get a stronger response from others viewing the thread.

Just my $.02.

Keep up the great work-much appreciated !!!

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Date        win lose total
23.12.15 56
24.12.15 93
27.12.15 57
28.12.15 52
29.12.15 45
30.12.15 50
31.12.15 50
02.01.16 56
03.01.16 65
04.01.16 57
05.01.16 45
06.01.16 51
07.01.16 50
08.01.16 59
09.01.16 45
10.01.16 47
11.01.16 49
12.01.16 51
13.01.16 50
14.01.16 59
15.01.16 45
16.01.16 45
17.01.16 50
18.01.16 45
19.01.16 38
20.01.16 43
21.01.16 45
22.01.16 655
23.01.16 52
24.01.16 50
25.01.16 38
26.01.16 50
27.01.16 38
28.01.16 57
29.01.16 48
30.01.16 54
31.01.16 56
01.02.16 46
02.02.16 51
03.02.16 45
04.02.16 54
05.02.16 46
06.02.16 39
07.02.16 45
08.02.16 42
09.02.16 44
10.02.16 53

             2306 655 1651

Something like this, showing the 1 loss 

[Celticknits]

Jackpot 247.com   KTF +£44  #16

-notto

Good day sir.

Would you please explain what the numbers represent at the bottom of each of the groups of 10 spins?
ie. 9/10  7+2  11+1  23-1  29/60

Thank You.
-Celtic

[nottophammer]

Sure
Have you looked in Jackpot joy average doc. Cell AI 68 shows the avg in spins 11-40, 30 spins.15.70212766 nonhit.

So the 1st 3 boxes of 4*10 cover spins 11-40, so each box of 10 could see 5 non hit. 5+5+5 = 15 in 30 spins like the avg in the doc shows.
On this game 9.2.16  the 1st 10 box spins 11-20 got 7 non hit 2 more than the avg of 5, so 7,+2
box covering spins 21-30 11+1, by spin 20 you could have 10 non hit, but we  see 11 have come, so 11+1.
Now this box covering spins 31-40 is where you see if 15 non hit  in 30 spins makes the avg,which we will get by adding the expected 15 non hit to the 1st 10 spins that show it got 9 non hit, so 9+15=24, this game got in spins 11-40 (30 spins) 14 non hit, so 23 -1.

Now we are getting really smart we keep records of games played so at the end of the 60 spins we can see in this game  it had 29 non hit,hit in 60 spins.
8.2.16 got 32/60
7.2.16 got 33/60
6.2.16 not enough spins
4.2.16 got 31/60
3.2.16       29/60
2.1.16       29/60
1.2.16       32/60
31.1.16      29/60
27.1.16      29/60    if you add these up and divide  avg for 60 spins 30.5 non hit.

All good info for watching the trot

[Celticknits]

-notto

That explains a lot.

By the way still doing great with KTF and Don't Knock It
Still not using any other systems or MM methods.
If it ain't broke don't fix it.
Am up over $600 so far in less than two weeks.

The other day I was at the B&M and was not doing so well.
Around spin 40 I managed to get back to -$8
At that point I quit because I had been there over an hour and it always seems that the system either kicks in and pays off in the first 20-30 spins or else the progression is up and down all the time.
Besides being a hit and run player I do not chase losses.

Thank you again.

-Celtic

[Celticknits]

Went to the casino again today and played KTF.

Between this and Dont Knock It on DD I think the roulette gods were transpiring against me today.

On my 5th spin I was up $34 and was considering quitting right then.
I always preach hit and run if you have won 5 or 6 of the first few spins.
Come on the rolette gods told me you have just started and there has only been 1 repeat.
So on I went.

The gods rewarded me with two repeats in a row and I was down to -$35 right after taunting me to continue.
Nice I thought....the lying bastards were'nt trying to help me after all.

So I continued and 4 spins later I was back to +32 and what did I do................that's right I listened to that little voice again and still continued.
What the hell was I thinking.

Anyways I played two more spins and quit with +$44.

I am not sure if there is a moral here or not.
Maybe......."Do not bet money in a casino if you hear little voices in your head"

I have attached the chart for this fiasco.

-Celtic

[nottophammer]

Hi Celts
1st 10 is 10/10, so expect 15 non hits in spins 11-40.
So you can see i've added countback from 39/40 spins, will help with watching the trot, the other trot to think about is the profit, watch see if its going up/down, remember the high.
Now spin 11, is the 11th non hit,on time. Spin 12,12th non hit(remember topic 12 unique, well here they are, so fast trot,no repeats).
Could say 12th non hit is just   a little early, so got to think repeat is not far away.

[nottophammer]

Oh dear repeat. So now we're going to KTF.
Up to 2 units, win.
So your high was +17, now back to +11.
Again looking at count back 13non hit is just early.

So should you sit it out and see what the trot is going to look like, I/we cant look into the future,but we can wait,if your on touch screen.

[denzie]

You keep talking about those 15 non hit and 15 hit between spin 11-40....

This is on average right? How many sessions you saw it was not like that?

I simply ask cuz I've got 2 busts now. So if we play virtual. .....track 10 spins...then wait for a clustered non hit or hit ....then go in for the opposite side.

Wouldn't that work and be safer?

(Just thinking out loud )

[nottophammer]

So if you've played next 2 spins your +34. As this is 00 wheel and as said with Wiggy better to take or as near to $40/+40.
Now look at count back its showing the 15th non hit is early, you've only had 1 repeat, so if like me i would have sat out those 2 spins. Now i'd bet for the repeat, remember i've sat out at +11, win, +32.


Thats todays lesson.

[nottophammer]

You keep talking about those 15 non hit and 15 hit between spin 11-40....

This is on average right? How many sessions you saw it was not like that?

I simply ask cuz I've got 2 busts now. So if we play virtual. .....track 10 spins...then wait for a clustered non hit or hit ....then go in for the opposite side.

Wouldn't that work and be safer?

(Just thinking out loud )

If you look at Jackpot joy average doc, you'll see in cell AI 68 15.70833333 this is spins 11-40. Its pretty constant. Of the 48 games i post KTF on, which is Jackpot247.com, theres only been 9 games where it does not get the 15 non hit in spins 11-40, those 9 games mean repeats

then wait for a clustered non hit or hit ....then go in for the opposite side This is watching the trot, like in Celts game, i would have gone for the repeat.
Wouldn't that work and be safer? Watching the trot, After 1st 10 spins you know how many non hit to bet, so you do not need to bet, better to watch the trot, see how the trot is looking .Like in celts game we can see the non hits are fast, so a repeat is dare i say it due.
Remember its all abot 0X's then 1X's and then >1x's, thats all there is to roulette, So like the Guvnor Winkel says Watch the trot.

[denzie]

Ok watch the trot....
I'll check first 10 spins...
Then I wait a few clustered dominant side (non hit or repeats)
Now it's time to go in ......

I'll report back on this.

[denzie]

due.

Notto. ......get ready mate......they coming at you soon...

[NextYear]

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- 20  25  16  20  31  36  14  21  5  15 -
            13  23  18  28 - 537
- 12  12  13  33  22  15  20  4   33  35 -
   25  2  2  29  7  24  19 - 576
- 0  29  6  15  33  27  29  10  33  24 -
  28  32  3  20 - 610
- 5  3  33  0  16  26  14  32  11  27 -
  9  29  5  30  33  6  33  14  31  34  27  25  29  29  22  24  33  19  11  14  27  26  25 - Game Over

[nottophammer]

+£34

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spin # non hit prog units win (+/-)
0 37
1 34 36
2 27 35
3 24 34
4 26 33
5 36 32
6 6 31
7 1 30
8 15 29
9 18 28 stake
10 3 27 non-hit return
11 10 26 1 27 36 9
12 4 25 1 26 36 19
13 9 24 1 25 36 30 Remember this amount
14 9 r 1 24 0 6
15 24 r 2 48 0 -42
16 16 23 3 72 108 -6
17 7 22 2 46 72 20 here -10 on pre-vio us high
18 34 r 1 22 0 -2
19 24 r 2 44 0 -46
20 8 21 3 66 108 -4
21 15 r 2 42 0 -46
22 0 20 3 63 108 -1
23 3 r 2 40 0 -41
24 23 19 3 60 108 7
25 0 r 2 38 0 -31
26 23 r 3 57 0 -88
27 28 18 4 76 144 -20
28 5 17 3 54 108 34 so new high stop
29 5 r 2 34 0 0
30 27 r 3 51 0 -51
31 33 16 4 68 144 25
32 26 r 3 48 0 -23
33 20 15 4 64 144 57 stop, stop
34 32 14 3 45 108 120
35 29 13
36 3 r
37 13 12
38 25 11
39 19 10
40 35 9
41 13 r
42 2 8
43 0 r
44 36 r
45 25 r
46 9 r
47 30 7
48 1 r
49 22 6
50 4 r
51 13 r
52 31 5
53 26 r
54 23 r
55 20 r
56 13 r
57 31 r
58 0 r
59 9 r
60 19 r 32/60