KTF

[nottophammer]

23*32*13

Now, we know and understand your sheet, except this mystic numbers...?

Thanks Notti!

There was another 10 numbers,but didn't want to start a new sheet. The #'s 31,5,0,23,0,30,9,5,32,21

So the 23 is the 32nd non hit, took 13 spins. You could have been betting 6 #'s for 13 spins.

[tuddilue]

Hey Notto,

I'm doing the new approach now. So far very good results.  Max bet so far is 3 units.

On my way to recover those 2 busts.

Thx mate , your effort is very much appreciated 

Hey Denzie, the new approach I don't seem to find it. Can you explain it a little simple? Or Notto maybe?

Hope you recover the 2 busts!

[denzie]

Hey Denzie, the new approach I don't seem to find it. Can you explain it a little simple? Or Notto maybe?

Hope you recover the 2 busts!

As always we wait our first 10 spins. But instead of starting to bet after that....I wait another 5 spins. If in those 5 spins I get :
4-5 repeaters then I bet the Unhit
4-5 unhitters then I bet the repeaters
If it's going side by side then I keep looking the trot till it's clear when the crossing should come.

Is it luck? No idea, I'll keep going till I know.

[tuddilue]

As always we wait our first 10 spins. But instead of starting to bet after that....I wait another 5 spins. If in those 5 spins I get :
4-5 repeaters then I bet the Unhit
4-5 unhitters then I bet the repeaters
If it's going side by side then I keep looking the trot till it's clear when the crossing should come.

Is it luck? No idea, I'll keep going till I know.

Ok thanks. Really interesting aproach.

[NextYear]

Thanks Notty!

I have make an observation which I think might be important, also:

- We are expecting 15 in 30 spins (11-40), so you marked 10's columns with 5+5+5
- In first 10 spins we get 9 numbers on the average, so I don't think it will "slow down" abruptly (from 9 till 5  ), but rather gradually

So I would go with 6+5+4 =15 which would make 9+6+5+4, or even 7+5+3 = 15 which would make nice 9+7+5+3 =24 in first 4x10's!

What do you think, Guvnor?

[nottophammer]

Wow from the past
Main Roulette Board / Re: Have I figured something new out about roulette?
« on: March 05, 2014, 07:38:35 PM »
Wyldegibson.
No need to be sorry as any idea is worth seeing, you never know,the math people might have given you the answer you were looking for,the H.G.
The old Ausguy was liking it for a while, and he's not a bad old guy,lol RNGGGGGGGGGGG.

Here's some rng from today in ladbrokes. I'll place them in blocks of ten. Won £51.00 on repeats and new numbers to come.
11,17,12,26,25,30,19,24,10,4

16,23,29,21,30,21,13,14,11,23

24,1,11,1,28,32,22,29,10,32

30,23,3,11,25,34,32,33,0,16

28,35,13,31,0,10,26,26,3,3

34,24,22,30,5,23,17,14,31,9

28,9,4,21,24,0,4,28,31,12

0,14,34,32,23,29,26,19,8

But really forget all the outside bets, the casino loves people playing them. Remember when column3 is missing for 30 odd spins and black hitting for say 24 spins, its BOOM

Code Select Expand

spin # non hit prog units win (+/-)
0 37
1 11 36
2 17 35
3 12 34
4 26 33
5 25 32
6 30 31
7 19 30
8 24 29
9 10 28 stake
10 4 27 non-hit return
11 16 26 1 27 36 9
12 23 25 1 26 36 19
13 29 24 1 25 36 30
14 21 23 1 24 36 42


Not quite KTF but i'm on its case, but it would be +42 and go

Earlier post above for betting for a repeat. Below is todays #'s for Jackpot247.com, where whilst watching the spins/trot, you watch the previous 10 spins, m=miss, so wait 5 spins if no repeat, start to bet those previous numbers in the 10 spins. so 1st 10 spins are watched, 5 m, so bet those 9 #'s, 3 spins win.

Code Select Expand

30 6 m 27 m 20 m 20 r 21 m 31 m
29 25 m 5 m 12 r 32 14 m 5 m
7 31 m 7 m 14 3 25 m 0 m
24 35 m 6 r 36 8 9 r 23 m
34 1 m 34 36 33 7 0 m
24 12 9 16 19 27 30 30 8w
22 9 9 8 18 15 27 9
8 8 9w 0 12 33 3 5
10 16 12 8 9 14 32
36 9 35 11 28 3 21
(9/10)


[nottophammer]

Thanks Notty!

I have make an observation which I think might be important, also:

- We are expecting 15 in 30 spins (11-40), so you marked 10's columns with 5+5+5
- In first 10 spins we get 9 numbers on the average, so I don't think it will "slow down" abruptly (from 9 till 5  ), but rather gradually

So I would go with 6+5+4 =15 which would make 9+6+5+4, or even 7+5+3 = 15 which would make nice 9+7+5+3 =24 in first 4x10's!

What do you think, Guvnor?

Our 1st 10 spins are 9.  9+15=24, so the expected amount of non hit at spin 40 is 24.
spins 11-20 got 8 non hit, so +3 if we split the 3 boxes of 10's to 5,5,5
spins 21-30 got 3 non hit, so +1,   5+5=10  we've had 11non hit +1
spins 31-40 got 5 non hit, so now 11+5= 16   so +1.

Now you mentioned 7,5,3   7 in spins11-20,  5 in spins in 21-30  and 3 in spins 31-40.
If you was to find the avg for non hit in spins 11-20, which i have done yes  its 7 then 5 and last 3. To me its to neat, why is it not 8,4,3. But look at todays sheet
8+3     Now avg 7 non hit  in spins 11-20 is +1  so already the non hits are infront, so now we expect 5 in spins 21-30, but as its +1 should we not expect to see only 4 non hit, to keep to avg.

11+1   Well 2 non hit straight away and avg needs to get back on track so needs only 2 more non hit in 8 spins, So should you
           not expect to see the repeats making an appearence. Ends +1  so if avg is to be expected  aren't we now -1 as it
           should now be +2. So to good to be true 7,5,3 is behind, if we except Avg then we expect 4 more non hit to get to 15
           non hit in 30 spins.
25+1   We get 5 non hit so +1
What we are doing is using average to help watch the trot. At spin 22 you've had 19 non hit, only 3 repeats, so i'd guess if Densie has watched the trot he would be betting the already hit

[denzie]

Notto or other rng players...

When you press the spin button without placing a bet...you think the outcome would be different then when we actually place a bet ?

Just curious. I was playing your ktf today and I won +80 units. But of course I keep clicking to see what would happen.

[Celticknits]

Here are todays results of using a GUT trigger with KTF

Goal:
BR $100
Win five times.

I had $76 in profit in 9 spins and quit but did stick around to get a total of 40 spins on the sheet.

-Celtic

[Wally Gator]

Celtic: are those 00 (double zero) for the 3rd number in the 1st column and 5th number in the 2nd column?

[Celticknits]

Celtic: are those 00 (double zero) for the 3rd number in the 1st column and 5th number in the 2nd column?

-Wally

Yes they are. I only have access to an american wheel when playing live in my local B&M casino.

-Celtic

[NextYear]

When you press the spin button without placing a bet...you think the outcome would be different then when we actually place a bet ?

That would be believing in conspiracy theory...
I don't think they go so far....
It's also easy to check online when two players are playing on the same wheel (from different accounts, ofc.)

[denzie]

That would be believing in conspiracy theory...
I don't think they go so far....

Your probably right. It just feels bit weird depending on software. But the casino makes enough profit already so they don't need to cheat.

[NextYear]

It can be different when you have to install Software on your comp to play (as I have to ).
Online you have up to 100 players on the same RNG wheel, so it is easy to check numbers with others.

[denzie]

It can be different when you have to install Software on your comp to play (as I have to ).
Online you have up to 100 players on the same RNG wheel, so it is easy to check numbers with others.

Those are the multiple player tables? How much time to place your bets?

If I play rng I always use the private sessions. There I can click as much and as fast as needed. With ktf I got some probs getting the bets down on time under 20 seconds.