KTF

[JimmieB]

@ Denzie, what casino? Thanks..

[RouletteGhost]

It can get a little scary +1 -1 so u must ktf

But any luck flat bet?

[nottophammer]

Flat bet is hit and miss i'm afraid. The repeats in 11-20 would make it hard
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[denzie]

@ Denzie, what casino? Thanks..

:.casino777.be

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@all KTF testers.  More then 50 sessions now and only get 3 results in our spins  11-40

15 unhit / 15 repeaters
16 unhit / 14 repeaters
19 unhit / 11 repeaters

[RouletteGhost]

The only rng casino i can really use is club world group

Another member had suggested miami club but they dont accept my state

Im willing to try club world group because they seem to be accredited and have a .25 cent minimum bet....and they accept U.S.

I dont know......

[tuddilue]

I have a little hard to understand the trot. What do you mean with this below?

Exactly
Remember that 50/60 is only an example of if you had to keep on playing,KTF
Watch that trot,like Azim said practice,practice. Keep in mind the avg for non-hit,try to remember what the max non-hit could take.
Do you have an example of this 0x and 1x +>1x? Is this the 15 non hit?
You watch the trot of 0x and 1x +>1x, watch the profit trot, remember the last high, you got to be watching.
Have you used countback.

Nice to see +195

Keep up the good work

I understand the repeaters and the unhit.
I have started to log my bets as well. I'm playing on Bwin rng..

[tuddilue]

It can get a little scary +1 -1 so u must ktf

But any luck flat bet?

Yes I agree with you,  but +1 -1 works best for now. I have also tested flatbet. But as nottophammer says it will not recover. Maybe gr8player but that is a slow progression as well..

[tuddilue]

still using +1/-1

slower +1/-1             old+1/-1  using todays #'s

1                                 1
1                                 2
2                                 1
1                                 1
1                                 2
2                                 3
2                                 2
1                                 1
1                                 1
1                                 1
1                                 2
2                                 3
2                                 2
1                                 1
                                   1

I think I have missed this. What is the old and new progression?  Which one are you using today?
Can you write the whole progression?

[Celticknits]

I think I have missed this. What is the old and new progression?  Which one are you using today?
Can you write the whole progression?

This was a relaxed betting progression suggestion that notto mentioned a while ago but I do not know if anybody ever tried it.
I know I didn't.

The progression has always been +1/-1 and still remains that way as far as I am aware.
Note that the relaxed progression proposed was only for the numbers for that day.

The proposed BR for KTF has always been $400.
I have not had a drawdown over $300 since following the trot and therefore found no need to change from the +1/-1 progression.

From what I see in the casinos, too many players are underfunded when they play roulette, or any other game in the casino for that matter.
As has been stated many times if you do not have the required BR, and be prepared to lose it, you should not be playing the system/method you  have selected, and, you never play with scared money.

-Celtic

[RouletteGhost]

Never play with scared money

I love that quote. and a Blackjack dealer told me that once

On an airball macine using $1 units $400 bankroll would be sufficient? Notto? Celtic?

Id aim for $40 then take a break

@ tamino, those mathboyzz say taking a break means nothing

[nottophammer]

tuddilue, you asked
Do you have an example of this 0x and 1x, +>1x? Is this the 15 non hit?

Yes over the 30 spins 11-40 you will see the above, If you play KTF, betting every spin with +1/-1, we've seen it win 57 games out of 58.
All i was doing, was putting KTF up, to show you could just bet the non-hit, with the best progression, i've found to use, is the +1/-1
Yes it can get scary, so you need to decide where to stop.

[RouletteGhost]

Stop loss recommendation?

[Celticknits]

On an airball macine using $1 units $400 bankroll would be sufficient? Notto? Celtic?

Id aim for $40 then take a break

@ tamino, those mathboyzz say taking a break means nothing

-Rg

$1 airball with $400 BR is what I am playing and as stated in my last post I have not had a drawdown over $300 in a long time.

As I play on an American wheel if I make $30-40 in the first few spins I am finished, if not, I still quit when the profit is around the $40 mark.

Whether you take a break or not is up to you and whether or not it makes a difference as far as the math is concerned I do not know.
I just watch the trot and follow the rules or as the title of this thread says "Keep The Faith" and it has been good to me.
The only break I take is when I am finished that session and usually I only play one or maybe two sessions a day and never back to back sessions.

One thing I have not seen mentioned on this thread is that when playing KTF it can be stressful and you have to concentrate and keep your wits about you.

Go for many small wins.
They do add up.

-Celtic

[nottophammer]

I think that some members have found how to watch the trot, each to their own way.
As i just said for those 30 spins +1/-1 has done the job.
So now we know that those 30 spins on avg produce 15 non-hit, Remember the topic i started 12 unique in x spins, go back look at how the 12 unique repeat, is it 1 spin or 3 spins?
Look at the avg doc,the early non-hit avg to hit in 2spins,but what you need to know, is the max spins.
The max the doc shows at the moment when the 12th non-hit has come, the 13th non-hit up to yesterday was max 3 spins, so 12 unique can repeat straight away, so if your just watching the trot today you would have seen countback show the the 12th non-hit is on time, but now you see the 12 repeat and think of the 13th non-hit's avg to hit, 2spins, 2 spins come,not shown, countback shows its possible to show on the 17th spin,but its a repeat, so could it come on the 18th, you are watching the trot, 18th another repeat, now countback says its late, its repeated 3 times its usual max, so now is a good time to bet the 25 non-hit, but not with +1/-1, if it lost again, the2 unit bet, would lose you 3 units if it came in, but a 3unit loss is bareable.
Remember the above is average,so keep up todate with Average.

A stop loss, that depends on how you play, are you going to just watch the trot, watching how the 1x behave.
Theres a lot to aid you decisions, avg,max, countback and then the bankroll, probably the best, think to watch,is there early profit, take a small profit, you have all day, different tables.

Celticknits has just beat me, but he says it right small wins

[denzie]

Celticknits. ... how you handle this one

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