KTF

[Celticknits]

Nottophammer,

Good Job on this.

Can you run your numbers after 35,  so 5, 6, 2 are the first 3 numbers...

I know you referred your enquiry to Notto but I thought you may be interested in how I would have played it.
Remember that I am betting for the repeats to hit and then removing them using a +1/-1 progression.
This is not the KTF way.

I ran the complete sequence so that you could see all of the numbers had you continued to the end.
Based on the way the numbers were going I personally would have stopped at spin #27.

-Celtic

[RouletteGhost]

Anybody. Whats 15/15?

[Celticknits]

Topman Dave
Yes thats the annoying part having to pay for a number. Is it minimum unit $1, can it be split to .20 or .25 cent units.

So this is 14 unique with +1/-1, remove the hit unique.
Have you been testing this on numbers from the gov site, will you build a data base on this sites spins? is there a marquee of previous spins, where whilst collecting your spins, you could watch how those unique come in your spins, if say 8 of your spins, those already there have not hit, so could you not combine those spins together and bet for the repeat?

-notto

Yes it's $1 min bet so to obtain the initial sequence I need to bet $2 ie. ($1 Red+$1 Black)

I bet for previous repeats to hit so yes I am betting for 14 uniques with +1/-1 progression.

I did not do any testing but just played for the repeats as I would had I gone in to the B&M.
I do have a record of the spins but so far I have only played 1 game online.
I do plan to play another game there today but was not planning on posting a sheet for it unless I lost in which case I would have as a warning to others that this is still gambling and I have no doubts that I will lose sooner or later.
What do you mean by a database?

Yes there is a marquee and I am not sure what you mean in the area above I marked in red.

-Celtic

[Celticknits]

Anybody. Whats 15/15?

Where did you see it mentioned?

-Celtic

[nottophammer]

Hi Celtic

Looks good that sheet, i'll spend sometime looking at it.

I've just come back from the bookies and both shops, all machines being used, some playing slots.
But theres one player doing his tank, a win from last week 2,000 mentioned, all gone now plus another 1500, smacking the machine,cursing no one wins etc,etc. Well you know what he is plasterer

Celtic,
okay that marquee, in the bookies we can have 10,11 or 12 previous numbers from the last player, so lets assume yours shows 15, like good casinos have.
Those 15 numbers can be unique to you as you have just arrived, now check to see if they have repeated. Now depending on how they repeat, if say it shows repeat at spin 2 and 6,then the last 9 are unique, as you collect your 1st 10 spins keep an eye on those 9 + yours to see if they have repeated, if you've had 6 spins that would make 15 unique, so you could bet for a repeat.

[Celticknits]

@ Azim

Numbers are on the sheet:

0 0 27 34 24 6 33 27 6 2
12 1 7 3 21 35 5 6 2 32
36 9 28 16 0 15 16 0 6 11
31 14 34 30 4 15 24 9 18 6
24 9 0 22 8 1 12 8 14 22
32 11 28 16 2 2 32 11 32 27

Azims asking to redo the sheet using the numbers in red above with KTF.

-Celtic

[nottophammer]

But we dont carry on,we jump/restart on a new wheel

[Celticknits]

Hi Celtic

Looks good that sheet, i'll spend sometime looking at it.

I've just come back from the bookies and both shops, all machines being used, some playing slots.
But theres one player doing his tank, a win from last week 2,000 mentioned, all gone now plus another 1500, smacking the machine,cursing no one wins etc,etc. Well you know what he is plasterer

Celtic,
okay that marquee, in the bookies we can have 10,11 or 12 previous numbers from the last player, so lets assume yours shows 15, like good casinos have.
Those 15 numbers can be unique to you as you have just arrived, now check to see if they have repeated. Now depending on how they repeat, if say it shows repeat at spin 2 and 6,then the last 9 are unique, as you collect your 1st 10 spins keep an eye on those 9 + yours to see if they have repeated, if you've had 6 spins that would make 15 unique, so you could bet for a repeat.

My experience with plasterers is that most of them have no clue what they are doing.
Here's a plasterer story for you.
Last week at the B&M I had one guy that was betting the even money bets and when I started to bet he saw me betting 14 numbers and he decided I was just throwing 14 chips out randomly. He started plastering with no plan in mind. I cashed out with about $100 win and he turned and blamed me for taking all the winning numbers off the wheel and actually expected me to reimburse him the $200+ he had lost so far. I told him to keep trying because his luck was bound to change and I got the hell out of there. Gotta laugh at some of these yahoos.

Thank you for the marquee explanation.

I still do not feel good about playing against online RNG software even though I have heard nothing negative about the OLG site in Canada.
I started a topic asking for feedback on the site but have not seen any replies yet.
I will play one more game later today and see what happens.

By the way did you notice Azim dropped in?
He requested that you re KTF the JJ 26/2/16 sheet starting about 17 numbers later.

I did it but did not post because I did not want you to feel that I was hijacking the thread.

-Celtic

[nottophammer]

Azim just done the red #'s and this is exactly why we leave with the +57, this why i say go to another table and start with 37 #'s that are due.
But Keep the Faith

Code Select Expand

spin # non hit prog units win (+/-)
0 37
1 5 36
2 6 35
3 2 34
4 32 33
5 36 32
6 9 31
7 28 30
8 16 29
9 0 28 stake
10 15 27 non-hit return
11 16 r 1 27 0 -27
12 0 r 2 54 0 -81
13 6 r 3 81 0 -162
14 11 26 4 108 144 -126
15 31 25 3 78 108 -96
16 14 24 2 50 72 -74
17 34 23 1 24 36 -62
18 30 22 1 23 36 -49
19 4 21 1 22 36 -35
20 15 r 1 21 0 -56
21 24 20 2 42 72 -26
22 9 r 1 20 0 -46
23 18 19 2 40 72 -14
24 6 r 1 19 0 -33
25 24 r 2 38 0 -71
26 9 r 3 57 0 -128
27 0 r 4 76 0 -204
28 22 18 5 95 180 -119
29 8 17 4 72 144 -47
30 1 16 3 51 108 10 stop
31 12 15 2 32 72 50
32 8
33 14
34 22
35 32
36 11
37 28
38 16
39 2
40 2
41 32
42 11
43 32
44 27
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60



[tuddilue]

See my comment in brown below...

My experience with plasterers is that most of them have no clue what they are doing.
Here's a plasterer story for you.
Last week at the B&M I had one guy that was betting the even money bets and when I started to bet he saw me betting 14 numbers and he decided I was just throwing 14 chips out randomly. He started plastering with no plan in mind. I cashed out with about $100 win and he turned and blamed me for taking all the winning numbers off the wheel and actually expected me to reimburse him the $200+ he had lost so far. I told him to keep trying because his luck was bound to change and I got the hell out of there. Gotta laugh at some of these yahoos.

Thank you for the marquee explanation.

I still do not feel good about playing against online RNG software even though I have heard nothing negative about the OLG site in Canada.
I started a topic asking for feedback on the site but have not seen any replies yet.
I will play one more game later today and see what happens.
I saw your topic but I have never played on that site. But I have played a lot on online sites. Nowadays I play most on bwin. My experience is that RNG is always difficult to beat. You get the feeling that they know what you are betting at and when you loose you can always blame on that feeling...

But when you are betting KTF you get more knowledge about what the RNG is doing. You are getting a feeling of safety. That you know what is happening and that they can't cheat you. Because if you see that they cheat you you can always leave and stop playing...

So my advice is to you try to play that RNG and see what the feeling is that you get. You have so much knowledge about KTF and GUT so they should have really hard time to cheat you... Come back and report after because it will be really interesting for us..  Best of luck now!   

By the way did you notice Azim dropped in?
He requested that you re KTF the JJ 26/2/16 sheet starting about 17 numbers later.

I did it but did not post because I did not want you to feel that I was hijacking the thread.

-Celtic

[Azim]

Azim just done the red #'s and this is exactly why we leave with the +57, this why i say go to another table and start with 37 #'s that are due.
But Keep the Faith

Code Select Expand

spin # non hit prog units win (+/-)
0 37
1 5 36
2 6 35
3 2 34
4 32 33
5 36 32
6 9 31
7 28 30
8 16 29
9 0 28 stake
10 15 27 non-hit return
11 16 r 1 27 0 -27
12 0 r 2 54 0 -81
13 6 r 3 81 0 -162
14 11 26 4 108 144 -126
15 31 25 3 78 108 -96
16 14 24 2 50 72 -74
17 34 23 1 24 36 -62
18 30 22 1 23 36 -49
19 4 21 1 22 36 -35
20 15 r 1 21 0 -56
21 24 20 2 42 72 -26
22 9 r 1 20 0 -46
23 18 19 2 40 72 -14
24 6 r 1 19 0 -33
25 24 r 2 38 0 -71
26 9 r 3 57 0 -128
27 0 r 4 76 0 -204
28 22 18 5 95 180 -119
29 8 17 4 72 144 -47
30 1 16 3 51 108 10 stop
31 12 15 2 32 72 50
32 8
33 14
34 22
35 32
36 11
37 28
38 16
39 2
40 2
41 32
42 11
43 32
44 27
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60



The point I was trying to make for everyone was even after the 14/15 unique numbers, play KTF keeping the faith you will end up in a profit.

In this case the TV show started at 00 what if it had started with 5 6 2 or any other place on the number's.

Try and work the number's with every number as being the first number of the sequence.

Don't be greedy and stop at 50. Start again.

[wiggy]

I've just come back from the bookies and both shops, all machines being used, some playing slots.
But theres one player doing his tank, a win from last week 2,000 mentioned, all gone now plus another 1500, smacking the machine,cursing no one wins etc,etc. Well you know what he is plasterer

  I call them Woody Woodpecker!!

[Celticknits]

Don't be greedy and stop at 50. Start again.

Greed and a small BR.
This is the casino's favourite combination for their player's to have.

-Celtic

[joiner29]

Hi played KTF at sky vegas fun mode great results so deposited £40 and played for real 5p units stopping around 40-50 unit wins then restarting, went up to £49 then it was as if the software could tell what I was betting and it tanked. Maybe a warning to stay away from sky vegas, anybody recommend honest RNG sites

[RouletteGhost]

Joiner. Has happened to me too. Fun mode is fun. Real mode is not