KTF

[denzie]

Just thought I'll throw it in here. Will it fail? Probably. No idea actually. I checked my last 56 rng sessions. ...here it goes 

Track 10 spins. Now bet those numbers they will repeat. We going for 1 hit. And refresh the session. It's a 10 step progression 

Spin 11 ... 1unit on our given numbers
Spin 12 ....2
         13 ....3
         14 ....4
         15 ....5
         16 ....6
         17 ....8
         18 ....12
         19 ....16
         20 ....25
         21.... Die

Maybe you guys can check how often we get 10 non hits in spin 11-20.
Of course I didn't play it but I would made actually 1954 units.

That's it. Probably suicide. But it doesn't hurt to check your sheets.
Oh one more thing: if we get a hit straight away. And then go for one more....didn't busted yet. Just mention it.

[denzie]

Just checked 43 more rng sessions.
Had 1 bust. But ended +480

So far 99 sessions gives a profit of +2434.
Maybe it's just luck. Anyway I'll keep looking at it.. who knows.  Lol

[Tomla021]

denzie-your just playing the 10 numbers for a repeat?

[denzie]

denzie-your just playing the 10 numbers for a repeat?

Yes.
As I did close to 300 sessions on rng now..I've started to notice that .....well they repeat almost all the time. Tomorrow I gonna check wiesbaden. .... it's probably just luck. Never try , never know

[nottophammer]

If you look in the doc: at
25.2.16
26.2.16
24.1.16  you can see how close it gets to 10 non-hit in spins 11-20

[nottophammer]

Den of the 75 games theres only been games of 8,9,10 unique in first 10 spins, of those 75 games theres only 16 games where theres no repeat in 1st 10 spins, so about 80% of games give a repeat in first 10 spins

[RouletteGhost]

80% win rate on 10 number seems good to me

[Celticknits]

Another good day at the local B&M on the American Wheel.

Here are the spins and KTF payout sheet.
Note: I only played the repeats but ran the numbers for KTF all the way to the end for your reference.

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S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 12 0 0 0 0
2 15 0 0 0 0
3 35 0 0 0 0
4 34 0 0 0 0
5 17 0 0 0 0
6 19 0 0 0 0
7 12 R 0 0 0 0
8 20 0 0 0 0
9 5 0 0 0 0
10 23 0 0 0 0
11 0 29 1 29 36 7 7
12 25 28 1 28 36 8 15
13 30 27 1 27 36 9 24
14 13 26 1 26 36 10 34 ----This is an American 00 wheel so quit here (Max $30-$40 Profit)
15 9 25 1 25 36 11 45
16 25 R 24 1 24 -24 21
17 12 R 24 2 48 -48 -27
18 9 R 24 3 72 -72 -99
19 1 24 4 96 144 48 -51
20 7 23 3 69 108 39 -12
21 20 R 22 2 44 -44 -56
22 28 R 22 3 66 -66 -122
23 19 R 22 4 88 -88 -210
24 11 22 5 110 180 70 -140
25 36 21 4 84 144 60 -80
26 9 R 20 3 60 -60 -140
27 16 20 4 80 144 64 -76
28 16 R 19 3 57 -57 -133
29 27 19 4 76 144 68 -65
30 34 R 18 3 54 -54 -119
31 24 18 4 72 144 72 -47
32 17 R 17 3 51 -51 -98
33 19 R 17 4 68 -68 -166
34 11 R 17 5 85 -85 -251
35 19 R 17 6 102 -102 -353
36 27 R 17 7 119 -119 -472
37 22 17 6 102 216 114 -358
38 29 16 5 80 180 100 -258
39 30 R 15 4 60 -60 -318
40 18 15 5 75 180 105 -213
41 27 R 14 4 56 -56 -269
42 3 14 5 70 180 110 -159
43 18 R 13 4 52 -52 -211
44 29 R 13 5 65 -65 -276
45 10 13 6 78 216 138 -138
46 17 R 12 5 60 -60 -198
47 33 12 6 72 216 144 -54
48 34 R 11 5 55 -55 -109
49 29 R 11 6 66 -66 -175
50 3 R 11 7 77 -77 -252
51 24 R 11 8 88 -88 -340
52 23 R 11 9 99 -99 -439
53 8 11 10 110 360 250 -189
54 25 R 10 9 90 -90 -279
55 21 10 10 100 360 260 -19
56 19 R 9 9 81 -81 -100
57 14 9 10 90 360 270 170
58 20 R 8 9 72 -72 98
59 36 R 8 10 80 -80 18
60 4 8 11 88 396 308 326


-Celtic

[denzie]

Den of the 75 games theres only been games of 8,9,10 unique in first 10 spins, of those 75 games theres only 16 games where theres no repeat in 1st 10 spins, so about 80% of games give a repeat in first 10 spins

Uhm ok. But I'm betting after our 10 spins. Doesn't matter if there are 8-9-10 unique.
I will check your sheets in this thread too.
As I said...probably just luck. Hope not though. ^^

[denzie]

Notto...I toke a look on all your ktf sheets you posted here.(written ones) . And some others too.
Didn't find a bust. Correct me if I'm wrong pls.

Estimated around +1500 units minimum. 

[denzie]

Nevermind 
It tanked. But not when we get 10 non hits first. Still looking to bust at least ones.

[tuddilue]

Oh one more thing: if we get a hit straight away. And then go for one more....didn't busted yet. Just mention it.

Interesting! When I went through my sheets I found around 10 these for example:

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... (10 non hit)
11 36 
12 18 R

Yes they are not many but they exists...

[tuddilue]

Just checked 43 more rng sessions.
Had 1 bust. But ended +480

So far 99 sessions gives a profit of +2434.
Maybe it's just luck. Anyway I'll keep looking at it.. who knows.  Lol

That's really good!

One question do you use some stop trigger?

I mean if you have a lot of repeaters in the beginning (11-21) do you not betting and restarts the session then?
I have had the RFH above and yesterday I had 5 repeaters in a streak from 12-16. In that sequence I used a stop trigger after 2 repeats so my loss was not so big. I can put up the numbers later today...

[denzie]

That's really good!

One question do you use some stop trigger?

I mean if you have a lot of repeaters in the beginning (11-21) do you not betting and restarts the session then?
I have had the RFH above and yesterday I had 5 repeaters in a streak from 12-16. In that sequence I used a stop trigger after 2 repeats so my loss was not so big. I can put up the numbers later today...

Not sure what you trying to ask. ....I not see anything wrong in what you post.

So we wait 10 unique.  Then we bet all those 10 nrs for a repeat . Stop. Retrack.
Iow a bust is 20 unique in a row.

With 7-8-9 unique in our first 10 spins I found busts. With 10 still haven't found one. But I'm sure I will.

[tuddilue]

Not sure what you trying to ask. ....I not see anything wrong in what you post.

So we wait 10 unique.  Then we bet all those 10 nrs for a repeat . Stop. Retrack.
Iow a bust is 20 unique in a row.

With 7-8-9 unique in our first 10 spins I found busts. With 10 still haven't found one. But I'm sure I will.

I'm not asking about your new theory (by the way I think is interesting).
I'm asking about when you are playing the original KTF.