KTF

[tuddilue]

@ Celticknits. .... I would choose a different session. Or next table   
What I do frequently is go for 1 hit if the count not good. Don't we always get 1 hit ?
Over 400 rng sessions now. And I had 1 ....yes 1 session where I didn't got 1 hit. (Yes real money). Best thing I ever seen.

Any of you guys/girls know some online live casino where you have 45 seconds or more to place your bets ?

@denzie
I'm a little curious about your 1 hit. When do you go for one hit? I mean what is your count? Or do you use the spin numbers? I mean after spin 5, 15, 21 for example?

How long is your progression? I understand that you are using +1/-1, but how many units before you stop?

How did it go for you on the online casinos, did it work?

Many questions sorry for that, but you got me curious when you say  "Best thing I ever seen." 

[RouletteGhost]

Jackpot247.com 18.3.16  KTF +40
Hi RG a thousand units handles this game to the end where it wins +108, but me i'd be happy with the +40

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spin # non hit prog units win (+/-)
0 37
1 24 36
2 17 35
3 20 34
4 26 33
5 5 32
6 8 31
7 17 r
8 5 r
9 13 30 stake
10 22 29 non-hit return
11 23 28 1 29 36 7
12 9 27 1 28 36 15
13 29 26 1 27 36 24
14 24 r 1 26 0 -2
15 1 25 2 52 72 18
16 24 r 1 25 0 -7
17 13 r 2 50 0 -57
18 31 24 3 75 108 -24
19 23 r 2 48 0 -72
20 32 23 3 72 108 -36
21 20 r 2 46 0 -82
22 21 22 3 69 108 -43
23 2 21 2 44 72 -15
24 19 20 1 21 36 0
25 2 r 1 20 0 -20
26 19 r 2 40 0 -60
27 4 19 3 60 108 -12
28 35 18 2 38 72 22
29 12 17 1 18 36 40 stop
30 2 r 1 17 0 23
31 22 r 2 34 0 -11
32 12 r 3 51 0 -62
33 31 r 4 68 0 -130
34 34 16 5 85 180 -35
35 17 r 4 64 0 -99
36 31 r 5 80 0 -179
37 14 15 6 96 216 -59
38 9 r 5 75 0 -134
39 32 r 6 90 0 -224
40 34 r 7 105 0 -329
41 32 r 8 120 0 -449
42 24 r 9 135 0 -584
43 24 r 10 150 0 -734
44 18 14 11 165 396 -503
45 18 r 10 140 0 -643
46 30 13 11 154 396 -401
47 36 12 10 130 360 -171
48 9 r 9 108 0 -279
49 10 11 10 120 360 -39
50 29 r 9 99 0 -138
51 14 r 10 110 0 -248
52 3 10 11 121 396 27
53 2 r 10 100 0 -73
54 35 r 11 110 0 -183
55 3 r 12 120 0 -303
56 9 r 13 130 0 -433
57 5 r 14 140 0 -573
58 28 9 15 150 540 -183
59 14 r 14 126 0 -309
60 9 r 15 135 0 -444
0 -444
61 25 8 16 144 576 -12
62 36 r 15 120 0 -132
63 30 r 16 128 0 -260
64 29 r 17 136 0 -396
65 15 7 18 144 648 108
66 12 r


Yes im seeing if you get close to being -100 you may sweat a bit but the unhits have to hit eventually and you rebound

Good man

[denzie]

@denzie
I'm a little curious about your 1 hit. When do you go for one hit? I mean what is your count?

If the count is +0 , +1 , +2 I go for 1 hit. Normally I start at spin 21. But here I wait till spin 23. If we didn't got a virtual hit then I go in. Make 1 hit and stop. Reset to new session.

How long is your progression? I understand that you are using +1/-1, but how many units before you stop?

As long it takes to get in profit. With a max of 420 units. (7 losses in a row). But let's say we get to high in the progression. Let's say at 5 or 6 units. And I get my hit. Then I look how much I'm down. If it's around -50 then I take the loss. Coz we get it back next session

How did it go for you on the online casinos, did it work?

Extremely good. Every day I gained 2-4 br

  "Best thing I ever seen." 
Yep, didn't saw anything like this. I not even bother to play my other stuff. Btw it's RNG 

[tuddilue]

Thanks @denzie for all your good answers!

[RouletteGhost]

Celtic please start a new thread explaining the count for repeaters. Thanks

[Celticknits]

Celtic please start a new thread explaining the count for repeaters. Thanks

-RG

I have to respectfully decline your offer.

Smarter people than me have already done, or attempted, this and I saw what happened to them.
Do a search on the main screen for "Winkel" or "Holy Grail".
I have mentioned this before in the KTF posts but also check out Azim's and Two Cat Sams posts.
Two Cat Sam even has several lengthy videos on You Tube describing G.U.T.
Notto also has a lot of information in his JJ thread.

By the way, attached are a couple of screenshots of what you may run up against even though you have been directed to those pages.
Look at the tabs in these shots and you will see that they reference Winkel's material. These were taken a few minures ago.

A teacher of mine once told me that the nice thing about banging your head on a brick wall is that it feels so good when you stop.

-Celtic

[tuddilue]

I agree with both sides @Celticknits and @RouletteGhost.  I have also said before that we should create a new thread but I also understand your problem Celticknits...

When you read the old Winkel GUT thread almost every answer he has written is empty and that makes me sad..

But the problem remains because we can't discuss two threads in one. I do not want to start a new thread and that is because I started betting repeaters yesterday. 

The description that denzie did made all for me. Maybe we can start from there. But who dares to create a thread?

[Celticknits]

I agree with both sides @Celticknits and @RouletteGhost.  I have also said before that we should create a new thread but I also understand your problem Celticknits...

When you read the old Winkel GUT thread almost every answer he has written is empty and that makes me sad..

But the problem remains because we can't discuss two threads in one. I do not want to start a new thread and that is because I started betting repeaters yesterday. 

The description that denzie did made all for me. Maybe we can start from there. But who dares to create a thread?

-Tuddilue

Looks like you may have gotten your wish.

KTF's cousin named WTF (if everyone agrees)

Why not post the description that Denzie gave you into that new thread and we will see what transpires from there

-Celtic

[NextYear]

Try here:

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16732.0

[tuddilue]

Yes of course I can write my findings. But I can do that when. I am home. But it will take a couple of hours from now. Hope you can wait 

[nottophammer]

Jackpot 247 .com 19.03.16 KTF +50  Made a mistake in the other thread can you see it,

[RouletteGhost]

I love this is unstoppable on airball

Notto on airball do you write down history board or do u collect 10 new spins then begin

[nottophammer]

Hi RG
If its a rare visit to the B+M, i'd use the last 8#'s on marquee as they are part of the 37 or 38 #'s you are going to use. But as you know i play on FOBT and the machine might not have spun for x amount of time,so in this situation i collect 10 #'s.
Remember what Wiggy said if on 00 wheel lower the win.

[nottophammer]

Jackpot 247.com 20.03.16  KTF +53
As i was transfering the #'s to the sheet, i could hear Celtic on the other topic, if a # repeats 3 times he'd reset, but i could hear the song Bon Jon, Keep the Faith, yes spins 11-20 makes one Keep the Faith, but spins 21-30 have KTF heading in the right direction, spins 31-40 you would be thinking 5 more non-hit possible, yes they come.

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spin # non hit prog units win (+/-)
0 37
1 2 36
2 17 35
3 9 34
4 4 33
5 29 32
6 17 r
7 19 31
8 20 30
9 10 29 stake
10 14 28 non-hit return
11 9 r 1 28 0 -28
12 31 27 2 56 72 -12
13 24 26 1 27 36 -3
14 4 r 1 26 0 -29
15 9 r 2 52 0 -81
16 20 r 3 78 0 -159
17 1 25 4 104 144 -119
18 17 r 3 75 0 -194
19 17 r 4 100 0 -294
20 5 24 5 125 180 -239
21 15 23 4 96 144 -191
22 35 22 3 69 108 -152
23 34 21 2 44 72 -124
24 28 20 1 21 36 -109
25 35 r 1 20 0 -129
26 22 19 2 40 72 -97
27 28 r 1 19 0 -116
28 35 r 2 38 0 -154
29 21 18 3 57 108 -103
30 22 r 2 36 0 -139
31 27 17 3 54 108 -85
32 7 16 2 34 72 -47
33 5 r 1 16 0 -63
34 33 15 2 32 72 -23
35 16 14 1 15 36 -2
36 23 13 1 14 36 20
37 15 r 1 13 0 7
38 8 12 2 26 72 53 stop
39 23 r
40 31 r
41 20 r
42 36 11
43 4 r
44 20 r
45 9 r
46 11 10
47 25 9
48 9 r
49 2 r
50 20 r
51 36 r
52 5 r
53 7 r
54 32 8
55 32 r
56 28 r


[Celticknits]

Jackpot 247.com 20.03.16  KTF +53
As i was transfering the #'s to the sheet, i could hear Celtic on the other topic, if a # repeats 3 times he'd reset, but i could hear the song Bon Jon, Keep the Faith, yes spins 11-20 makes one Keep the Faith, but spins 21-30 have KTF heading in the right direction, spins 31-40 you would be thinking 5 more non-hit possible, yes they come.

-Notto

Just to clarify:
What I said was that I would not bet a number that had hit 3 times in the current sequence.
A reset, maybe, depending on the count and how I feel.

Todays JJ numbers are a case where actually the chances are I would not have played this at all because I would not have started betting until spin #46 when I was happy with the count but that would have meant I would have been at the table for at least an hour waiting for an entry point to start betting.
This has only happened at the B&M once or twice and in those cases I just went for a walk and came back later.

-Celtic