KTF

[JSG240592]

I don't understand your method of play. Instructions are not clear, pictures are not clear.

[Celticknits]

I don't understand your method of play. Instructions are not clear, pictures are not clear.

-JSG

I do not know who you are referencing here so I will assume that it is me.
In the future when you reply either push the quote button or start your reply with the name of the individual you are talking to.
Thank you.

There is only ONE method of play for KTF.
The method has been listed step by step MANY MANY MANY times in this thread and have not changed.
The only decision you have to make is whether you want to cover the 0 if it is not in the original sequence.

Please read the entire thread and you will understand what the rules are.

-Celtic

[Celticknits]

- Celtic/Tuddi

Thank you for your help and advice! Not sure why I had 29  as didn't cover the 0 anyway as it was hit in the first 10spins!

Think I may have had a unit on red/black when I was generating system and pressed repeat or something.

I did notice I had 11 @ 29 and 12 @ 27 but could work it out thou.

Think the hardest part is knowing when to stop!!

Thanks for your help you!

-Gzgzbee

Regarding where to stop ----   I have seen a lot of people saying this lately and it tells me they have not read the entire thread.
The BR is $800 and you play for a maximum of 60 spins.
The Win/Stop is $30-$40 on an American and $40-$50 on a Euro wheel.
Regarding the Win/Stop ---- You can quit at any point you want. That is your decision.
The above parameters are what Notto used for his 100+ games in a row that only lost once.

Below is the payout sheet if you did not want to cover the 0 that is in the initial sequence.

I hope this helps.

-Celtic

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GZGZBEE   1MAY16
KTF (WITHOUT ADDING IN 0 FROM ORIGINAL NUMBERS)
S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 19
2 11
3 34
4 13
5 0
6 6
7 3
8 34 R1
9 2
10 17 9/10
11 25 28 1 28 36 8 8
12 0 R1 27 1 27 -27 -19
13 0 R2 27 2 54 -54 -73
14 9 27 3 81 108 27 -46
15 27 26 2 52 72 20 -26
16 33 25 1 25 36 11 -15
17 8 24 1 24 36 12 -3
18 35 23 1 23 36 13 10
19 29 22 1 22 36 14 24
20 16 21 1 21 36 15 39   ---   QUIT HERE --Don't get GREEDY!!!
21 13 R1 20 1 20 -20 19
22 33 R1 20 2 40 -40 -21
23 3 R1 20 3 60 -60 -81
24 33 R2 20 4 80 -80 -161
25 10 20 5 100 180 80 -81
26 18 19 4 76 144 68 -13
27 13 R2 18 3 54 -54 -67
28 8 R1 18 4 72 -72 -139
29 11 R1 18 5 90 -90 -229
30 30 18 6 108 216 108 -121
31 26 17 5 85 180 95 -26
32 27 R1 16 4 64 -64 -90
33 23 16 5 80 180 100 10
34 30 R1 15 4 60 -60 -50
35 16 R1 15 5 75 -75 -125
36 26 R1 15 6 90 -90 -215
37 29 R1 15 7 105 -105 -320


[Celticknits]

-750... oooph.

-3Nine

That is why we set an $800 BR in the rules.
It does not happen often but it is gambling after all.

-Celtic

[Celticknits]

I don't think this system is very good.

I fail to see how you can say this when it has only lost once in over 100 consecutive games

You'd be better off just playing one spin at a time:- Open your roulette game and play 27 out of 37 numbers. play one spin and whether win or lose you leave the table and spin again another day. you could do this once an hour or once a day. You need to hit 3 out of 4 spins to be even. you have a 73% chance of winning each individual spin. The odds are very much in your favour if you spin one spin at a time. When you stay for prolonged periods at the roulette table then that is when the house edge starts to have an effect.
Lets enter the table and play 14 numbers for 1 spin and 1 spin only, we have a 38% chance of hitting our number so 1 in every 2.5 spins we should hit a win. lets make it easier and say 2 out of 5 spins we should hit a win. We only ever play 14 numbers and we only play 1spin each session.
Don't play against the table play against the wheel.

With ANY of your suggested changes you are no longer playing KTF.

-Celtic

[Celticknits]

01.05.2016 - Skyvagas (RNG)

+25 @ spin 20!

Had 3 non hitter after spin 20 aswell but stopped at +25

Sheet attached.

-Gzgzbee

Your tracking sheet is perfect except you marked down +27 as your win and said above that you stopped at +25.
That is confusing.
In actuality after spin 20 you have +28.

I think I see what your problem is.
The set rules for KTF state that you start betting at spin 11 and continue to spin 60 or until you hit the Win/Stop or decide to quit earlier.
This is also why the set rules also state that your BR should be $800.

These set rules are very simple and have been stated over and over again in this thread.
If you have not done so already I suggest you read all of the pages.

Here is the payout sheet for this session.
NOTE:  Had you been foolish enough to step outside of the KTF parameters and continue on after the Win/Stop was reached notice the progression reset at 27.

-Celtic

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GZGZBEE   1MAY16 (GAME 2)
KTF (WITHOUT ADDING 0 BACK IN FROM ORIGINAL NUMBERS)
S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 9
2 32
3 0
4 5
5 5 R1
6 12
7 29
8 19
9 33
10 27 9/10
11 14 28 1 28 36 8 8
12 21 27 1 27 36 9 17
13 25 26 1 26 36 10 27
14 14 R1 25 1 25 -25 2
15 25 R1 25 2 50 -50 -48
16 11 25 3 75 108 33 -15
17 24 24 2 48 72 24 9
18 3 23 1 23 36 13 22
19 3 R1 22 1 22 -22 0
20 10 22 2 44 72 28 28
21 35 21 1 21 36 15 43   ---   Win/Stop of +40 to +50 reached so QUIT!!!
22 7 20 1 20 36 16 59
23 1 19 1 19 36 17 76
24 32 R1 18 1 18 -18 58
25 9 R1 18 2 36 -36 22
26 30 18 3 54 108 54 76
27 24 R1 17 1 17 -17 59
28 8 17 2 34 72 38 97
29 5 R2 16 1 16 -16 81
30 0 R1 16 2 32 -32 49
31 9 R2 16 3 48 -48 1
32 26 16 4 64 144 80 81
33 9 R3 15 3 45 -45 36
34 29 R1 15 4 60 -60 -24
35 11 R1 15 5 75 -75 -99
36 33 R1 15 6 90 -90 -189
37 25 R2 15 7 105 -105 -294
38 5 R3 15 8 120 -120 -414
39 33 R2 15 9 135 -135 -549
40 12 R1 15 10 150 -150 -699


[Gzgzbee]

02/05/16 - SkyVagas (RNG)

+30 @ 13th spin.

Attached.

[JSG240592]

Could some one please attach for me the initial post were the system is explained in full.

[RouletteGhost]

I don't think this system is very good.

I got a really cool idea for ya: YOU do not have to play it

You could simply close the thread and move on

[RouletteGhost]

I did not mean that in the context it came off as

By the way

[Celticknits]

02/05/16 - SkyVagas (RNG)

+30 @ 13th spin.

Attached.

-Gzgzbee

Actually it is +27 after spin 13 and some of the R listings in spins 31-40 are incorrect.

Here is the full payout sheet.

-Celtic

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SKYVEGAS   2MAY16
KTF (WITHOUT ADDING IN 0 FROM ORIGINAL NUMBERS)
S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 36
2 13
3 19
4 26
5 2
6 22
7 15
8 4
9 36 R1
10 6 9/10
11 33 28 1 28 36 8 8
12 1 27 1 27 36 9 17
13 3 26 1 26 36 10 27
14 17 25 1 25 36 11 38   ---   Possible point to stop
15 7 24 1 24 36 12 50   ---   Win/Stop reached so QUIT!!!
16 3 R1 23 1 23 -23 27
17 5 23 2 46 72 26 53
18 18 22 1 22 36 14 67
19 12 21 1 21 36 15 82
20 25 20 1 20 36 16 98
21 34 19 1 19 36 17 115
22 9 18 1 18 36 18 133
23 33 R1 17 1 17 -17 116
24 7 R1 17 2 34 -34 82
25 12 R1 17 3 51 -51 31
26 17 R1 17 4 68 -68 -37
27 13 R1 17 5 85 -85 -122
28 31 17 6 102 216 114 -8
29 24 16 5 80 180 100 92
30 1 R1 15 4 60 -60 32
31 27 15 5 75 180 105 137
32 11 14 1 14 36 22 159
33 29 13 1 13 36 23 182
34 2 R1 12 1 12 -12 170
35 23 12 2 24 72 48 218
36 24 R1 11 1 11 -11 207
37 8 11 2 22 72 50 257
38 26 R1 10 1 10 -10 247
39 22 R1 10 2 20 -20 227
40 16 10 3 30 108 78 305


[Gzgzbee]

-Celtic

Thank you!

How often and how many games have you played!?

Also "thinking out loud" say we spin and 6 lands, we place 1 unit on all un-hit numbers bar 6 and the two number either side on the wheel I.e 34, "6", 27!

Then we simple play -1/+1...

What are the odds of RNG or live hitting the same 3 pockets in a row say 5 times!?

[Gzgzbee]

01/05/16 - SkyVagas (RNG)

+29 profit.

Results attached.

Played 4 times now.

+36
+27
+27
+29

Total = +119

My aim is approx £30!

[RouletteGhost]

Good job

Lets hope before the 1st bust your profits cover it

Good luck and i look forward to your future sheets

[curiosone]

01/05/16 - SkyVagas (RNG)

+29 profit.

Results attached.

Played 4 times now.

+36
+27
+27
+29

Total = +119

My aim is approx £30!

Whatch out for that RNG,its tricky