KTF

[Celticknits]

That would be curve fitting

Curve fitting.
Love that term.
You are correct because he stepped outside of the set rules for KTF and is trying to make it win.
He is not playing KTF as soon as he tries to change the rules.

-Celtic

[KTFPissa]

Curve fitting.
Love that term.
You are correct because he stepped outside of the set rules for KTF and is trying to make it win.
He is not playing KTF as soon as he tries to change the rules.

-Celtic

The problem is Celtic even if you play with set rules, it has one winning session and the other one is losing because of the enormous amount of repeats. I am going to reinstate this thread and start posting numbers from where nottophammer left us.

[Celticknits]

The problem is Celtic even if you play with set rules, it has one winning session and the other one is losing because of the enormous amount of repeats. I am going to reinstate this thread and start posting numbers from where nottophammer left us.

My point is we will never know if KTF would have won or lost in any of these three games because he did not follow the KTF rules and run for 60 spins.

What numbers are you going to be posting?
Live spins, Airball, or RNG?

-Celtic

[KTFPissa]

What numbers are you going to be posting?
Live spins, Airball, or RNG?

Same source used by nottophammer. I have been collecting them ever since he has started posting. Hopefully there will not be any surprises.

[Celticknits]

Same source used by nottophammer. I have been collecting them ever since he has started posting. Hopefully there will not be any surprises.

Jackpot 247 sounds good to me.
Can you post from where Notto left off ie. starting with the May 1 numbers?

-Celtic

[JSG240592]

Hi guys,

So what your saying is regardless of the amount of repeats and the damaged bankroll to continue to 60spins?.

[denzie]

Hi guys,

So what your saying is regardless of the amount of repeats and the damaged bankroll to continue to 60spins?.

I would say that mostly your done in spin 11-20. But if to many repeaters come than we keep going till +40/50$â,¬. For everything after spin 20 I'm careful.  Iow if I'm at - 10/50â,¬ I probably stop. Take the loss and get it back next session.  Also read the trot!

[JSG240592]

Whats 'the trot'?

I know this is a hard question to answer but do you think RNG will give differant results when playing for fun money? compared to playing for real money?

[KTFPissa]

01.05.16   +127 in spin 38

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1 0 37
2 18 36
3 31 35
4 5 34
5 9 33
6 29 32
7 7 31
8 34 30
9 10 29
10 34 R 28
11 12 28 1 8 8
12 7 R 27 1 -27 -19
13 12 R 27 2 -54 -73
14 4 27 3 27 -46
15 15 26 2 20 -26
16 12 R 25 1 -25 -51
17 3 25 2 22 -29
18 1 24 1 12 -17
19 6 23 1 13 -4
20 36 22 1 14 10
21 0 R 21 1 -21 -11
22 9 R 21 2 -42 -53
23 23 21 3 45 -8
24 17 20 2 32 24
25 36 R 19 1 -19 5
26 29 R 19 2 -38 -33
27 29 R 19 3 -57 -90
28 13 19 4 68 -22
29 13 R 18 3 -54 -76
30 15 R 18 4 -72 -148
31 6 R 18 5 -90 -238
32 7 R 18 6 -108 -346
33 16 18 7 126 -220
34 28 17 6 114 -106
35 5 R 16 5 -80 -186
36 25 16 6 120 -66
37 22 15 5 105 39
38 2 14 4 88 127
39 30 13 3 69 196
40 0 R 12 2 -24 172
41 35 12 3 72 244
42 6 R 11 2 -22 222
43 10 R 11 3 -33 189
44 20 11 4 100 289
45 33 10 3 78 367
46 11 9 2 54 421
47 35 R 8 1 -8 413
48 21 8 2 56 469
49 14 7 1 29 498
50 17 R 6 1 -6 492
51 4 R 6 2 -12 480
52 19 6 3 90 570
53 29 R 5 2 -10 560
54 32 5 3 93 653
55 9 R 4 2 -8 645
56 24 4 3 96 741
57 23 R 3 2 -6 735
58 18 R 3 3 -9 726
59 13 R 3 4 -12 714
60 6 R 3 5 -15 699
61 20 R 3 6 -18 681
62 23
63 19
64 18
65 15
66 33
67 30
68 0
69 4
70 16
71 36
72 0
73 20
74 24
75 7
76 5
77 33
78 12
79 28
80 17
81 16



[nottophammer]

Ok JSG240592
Go back to reply 1121 there you will see the Jackpot average document.
In your 2nd game it looks like you are betting for the 11th non-hit, well what a surprise max to hit 4 spins.
game 3 it looks like you are betting for the 14th non-hit, again max of 4 spins to come in.

So build your self an average document for the RNG you are going to play on, once you have a 100 game record your average will begin to stabilize.
I've been to ladbrokes and corals just watched the trot/count, remembered max spin and avg to come in, info from one of the best on here WINKEL,

What you got to remember KTF my grandmother can do its just betting non-hit with +1/-1.
I think you are going to have to study GUT, LOTT, 12 unique in xspins and RNG spins in UK bookies.

[Gzgzbee]

03/05/16 - SkyVagas (RNG)

+27

Sheet attached.

[denzie]

Nice but go to +40

[Celticknits]

01.05.16   +127 in spin 38

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1 0 37
2 18 36
3 31 35
4 5 34
5 9 33
6 29 32
7 7 31
8 34 30
9 10 29
10 34 R 28
11 12 28 1 8 8
12 7 R 27 1 -27 -19
13 12 R 27 2 -54 -73
14 4 27 3 27 -46
15 15 26 2 20 -26
16 12 R 25 1 -25 -51
17 3 25 2 22 -29
18 1 24 1 12 -17
19 6 23 1 13 -4
20 36 22 1 14 10
21 0 R 21 1 -21 -11
22 9 R 21 2 -42 -53
23 23 21 3 45 -8
24 17 20 2 32 24
25 36 R 19 1 -19 5
26 29 R 19 2 -38 -33
27 29 R 19 3 -57 -90
28 13 19 4 68 -22
29 13 R 18 3 -54 -76
30 15 R 18 4 -72 -148
31 6 R 18 5 -90 -238
32 7 R 18 6 -108 -346
33 16 18 7 126 -220
34 28 17 6 114 -106
35 5 R 16 5 -80 -186
36 25 16 6 120 -66
37 22 15 5 105 39
38 2 14 4 88 127
39 30 13 3 69 196
40 0 R 12 2 -24 172
41 35 12 3 72 244
42 6 R 11 2 -22 222
43 10 R 11 3 -33 189
44 20 11 4 100 289
45 33 10 3 78 367
46 11 9 2 54 421
47 35 R 8 1 -8 413
48 21 8 2 56 469
49 14 7 1 29 498
50 17 R 6 1 -6 492
51 4 R 6 2 -12 480
52 19 6 3 90 570
53 29 R 5 2 -10 560
54 32 5 3 93 653
55 9 R 4 2 -8 645
56 24 4 3 96 741
57 23 R 3 2 -6 735
58 18 R 3 3 -9 726
59 13 R 3 4 -12 714
60 6 R 3 5 -15 699
61 20 R 3 6 -18 681
62 23
63 19
64 18
65 15
66 33
67 30
68 0
69 4
70 16
71 36
72 0
73 20
74 24
75 7
76 5
77 33
78 12
79 28
80 17
81 16



I would have stopped at spin 37 with +39, or even at spin 24 with +24 after all we have been betting for 13 spins and in a B&m that would be about 45 minutes.

Not that anybody will listen but KTF will win for you but you have to be careful of getting greedy because it will cost you in the end.

Let's ask our KTF Grand Wizard
-Notto
Where would you have quit on this one?

-Celtic

[nottophammer]

Where would i stop. Exactly where you would stop. Why.
Spins 11-20 end with the avg 7,+2. So prog is low, so i'd go on.
spins21-30 is +0, with the +£24 gone, trot is on schedule by countback as 19th non-hit was just early.
We could have had 5 non-hit in spins 21-30, but got 3, which we usually see in spins 31-40, so yes we are committed to carrying on, or take the hit.
So with Bon Jovi playing in your subconscious you press on, spin 37 take the win and do what ever you do, if thats wait for 60 spins to finish or go to another table, do it.
Like Celts said do not get greedy.

[Gzgzbee]

I take it playing for +20-30 profit is no issue!?

would you say I'm wasting an extra +10-20 profit a game!?

Thanks