KTF

[denzie]

Yess

[Priyanka]

Where would i stop. Exactly where you would stop. Why.

Notto am watching .  Thought you were doing 50/50 in my honour

[nottophammer]

I take it playing for +20-30 profit is no issue!?

would you say I'm wasting an extra +10-20 profit a game!?

Thanks

You know how to play, so you set your win goal, the more you play the more you learn.
Look at this way, its a straight path no thought needed you just remove the hit number using +1/-1.
But the more you play,you will start to think about, what if and what about, thats fine, but it wont be KTF, what you are moving to is WTF, completely different ball game.

[nottophammer]

Notto am watching .  Thought you were doing 50/50 in my honour

I'm still doing it, just got bored of updating the old games, but today wins +55 

[nottophammer]

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spin # non hit prog units win (+/-)
0 37
1 0 36
2 18 35
3 31 34
4 5 33 J247
5 9 32 01.05.16
6 29 31
7 7 30
8 34 29
9 10 28 stake
10 34 R non-hit return (+/-)
11 12 27 1 28 36 8
12 7 r 1 27 0 -19
13 12 r 2 54 0 -73
14 4 26 3 78 108 -43
15 15 25 2 52 72 -23
16 12 r 1 25 0 -48
17 3 24 2 50 72 -26
18 1 23 1 24 36 -14
19 6 22 1 23 36 -1
20 36 21 1 22 36 13
21 0 r 1 21 0 -8
22 9 r 2 42 0 -50
23 23 20 3 63 108 -5
24 17 19 2 40 72 27
25 36 r 1 19 0 8
26 29 r 2 38 0 -30
27 29 r 3 57 0 -87
28 13 18 4 76 144 -19
29 13 r 3 54 0 -73
30 15 r 4 72 0 -145
31 6 r 5 90 0 -235
32 7 r 6 108 0 -343
33 16 17 7 126 252 -217
34 28 16 6 102 216 -103
35 5 r 5 80 0 -183
36 25 15 6 96 216 -63
37 22 14 5 75 180 42
38 2 13 4 56 144 130
39 30 12 3
40 0 r
41 35
42 6
43 10
44 20
45 33
46 11
47 35
48 21
49 14
50 17
51 4
52 19
53 29
54 32
55 9
56 24
57 23
58 18
59 13
60 6

61 20
62 23
63 19
64 18
65 15
66 33
67 30
68 0
69 4
70 16
71 36
72 0
73 20
74 24
75 7
76 5
77 33
78 12
79 28
80 17
81 16
82 33


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spin # non hit prog units win (+/-)
0 37
1 31 36
2 36 35
3 4 34
4 1 33 J247
5 6 32 02.05.16
6 13 31
7 32 30
8 7 29
9 34 28 stake
10 0 27 non-hit return (+/-)
11 24 26 1 27 36 9
12 34 r 1 26 0 -17
13 33 25 2 52 72 3
14 36 r 1 25 0 -22
15 24 r 2 50 0 -72
16 16 24 3 75 108 -39
17 11 23 2 48 72 -15
18 21 22 1 23 36 -2
19 35 21 1 22 36 12
20 22 20 1 21 36 27
21 15 19 1 20 36 43
22 17 18 1 19 36 60
23 16
24 7
25 35
26 20
27 19
28 28
29 23
30 18
31 3
32 33
33 23
34 36
35 18
36 32
37 15
38 17
39 27
40 11
41 32
42 9
43 26
44 15
45 6
46 15
47 20
48 25
49 10
50 35
51 29
52 27
53 10
54 25
55 15
56 15
57 36
58 36


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spin # non hit prog units win (+/-)
0 37
1 34 36
2 20 35
3 27 34
4 2 33 J247
5 33 32 03.05.16
6 31 31
7 24 30
8 4 29
9 7 28 stake
10 18 27 non-hit return (+/-)
11 13 26 1 27 36 9
12 28 25 1 26 36 19
13 28 r 1 25 0 -6
14 26 24 2 50 72 16
15 12 23 1 24 36 28
16 35 22 1 23 36 41
17 36 21 1 22 36 55
18 30 20 1
19 8 19 1
20 35 r 1
21 2
22 11
23 29
24 7
25 8
26 6
27 9
28 8
29 32
30 0
31 13
32 32
33 6
34 21
35 26
36 11
37 0
38 4
39 23
40 8
41 18
42 13
43 19
44 13
45 16
46 22
47 21
48 27
49 31
50 13
51 18
52 11
53 36
54
55
56
57
58
59
60


[KTFPissa]

spin   #   non hit   prog   units   win   (+/-)
0      37            
1   0   36            
2   18   35            
3   31   34            
4   5   33   J247         
5   9   32      01.05.16      
6   29   31            
7   7   30            
8   34   29            
9   10   28      stake      
10   34   R      non-hit   return   (+/-)
11   12   27   1   28   36   8
12   7   r   1   27   0   -19
13   12   r   2   54   0   -73
14   4   26   3   78   108   -43

Am glad our results matched. Except that part in red which i believe should read
14  4   26   3    81     108    -46   and rest of the results should add up to 127 when stop reaches.

[Gzgzbee]

You know how to play, so you set your win goal, the more you play the more you learn.
Look at this way, its a straight path no thought needed you just remove the hit number using +1/-1.
But the more you play,you will start to think about, what if and what about, thats fine, but it wont be KTF, what you are moving to is WTF, completely different ball game.

Notto!

I don't feel I am playing KTF any different and shouldn't be a different ball game...I am simple just getting out for a smaller profit! For me £20-£30 per session is prefect! Hopefully I will get drawn into less +1/-1 battles!

Thanks

[Celticknits]

Am glad our results matched. Except that part in red which i believe should read
14  4   26   3    81     108    -46   and rest of the results should add up to 127 when stop reaches.

Look at your Stake/Non Hit column at spin 11.
It should be 28 not 27.

-Celtic

[nottophammer]

For me £20-£30 per session is prefect!

Yes nothing wrong with taking 20-30, like Winkel said in GUT you make the decision.
All i was saying after you play for sometime you will probably start to think about,what if or how about, then its no longer KTF.
Glad your winning with it.
Was i right thinking its simple to play, i hope so.

But i must confess i'm more a trot/count watcher than a KTF'er, I disregard all the math quoted to me as i just watch those 0X's and make a decision,from past game play and trot average, which i record for analysis.

Now i wonder how other roulette players have any understanding for the game, when i go to the B+M no buggers recording anything, in the uk bookies the same, so my conclussion is they must all be plasterering chips anyway anyhow anyway they choose

[Celticknits]

Now i wonder how other roulette players have any understanding for the game, when i go to the B+M no buggers recording anything, in the uk bookies the same, so my conclussion is they must all be plasterering chips anyway anyhow anyway they choose

Gotta laugh at the plasterers.
I was at my B&M last night and these two players working together next me were looking at my play and saw me cash out with +$101 starting with 10 numbers in just 4 spins betting Repeats. Now I have to admit that when I started betting it was one of those sessions that was just ripe for winning.
They seemed to be convinced that betting 10 random numbers and then just reducing by 1 unit each spin on a loss and using a 4 level Martingale on the next bets was the answer. Boy were they wrong. Last I saw they were down -$950 and I took off like a shot before they got to asking me questions.
Roulette can be so entertaining.

-Celtic

[JSG240592]

To join the post when conversations are so far through and are so in depth it is very confusing for me. I've got the grasp of how to bet can someone now please tell me when to bet? What a 'trot' is? and how to apply this method succesfully in all versions of roulette?

[KTFPissa]

Look at your Stake/Non Hit column at spin 11.
It should be 28 not 27.

-Celtic

Are you saying teh correction i have suggested is wrong. Are you saying it should not read -46?

[Celticknits]

Are you saying teh correction i have suggested is wrong. Are you saying it should not read -46?

Not at all.
I just mistook your Non Hit count as your Bet amount in spin 11.
Sorry about that.

-Celtic

[nottophammer]

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spin # non hit prog units win (+/-)
0 37
1 13 36
2 16 35
3 6 34
4 14 33 J247
5 32 32 04.05.16
6 29 31
7 13 r
8 3 30
9 9 29 stake
10 18 28 non-hit return (+/-)
11 21 27 1 28 36 8
12 27 26 1 27 36 17
13 23 25 1 26 36 27
14 14 r 1 25 0 2
15 0 24 2 50 72 24
16 10 23 1 24 36 36
17 20 22 1 23 36 49
18 9 r 1 22 0 27
19 15 21 2 44 72 55
20 33
21 24
22 19
23 36
24 4
25 17
26 12
27 22
28 16
29 32
30 34
31 10
32 14
33 19
34 11
35 21
36 33
37 13
38 18
39 9
40 26
41 24
42 25
43 34
44 22
45 3
46 23
47 9
48 19
49 8
50 13
51 35
52 28
53 33
54 28
55 23
56 12
57 19
58 1
59 16
60 4

61 18
62 21
63 29
64 15
65 5
66 11
67 6
68 15
69 11
70 34
71 14
72 22
73 31
74 15
75 0
76 32
77 36
78 7
79 22

   jackpot247 04.5.16
1   13
2   16
3   6
4   14
5   32
6   29
7   13
8   3
9   9
10   18
11   21
12   27
13   23
14   14
15   0
16   10
17   20
18   9
19   15
20   33
21   24
22   19
23   36
24   4
25   17
26   12
27   22
28   16
29   32
30   34
31   10
32   14
33   19
34   11
35   21
36   33
37   13
38   18
39   9
40   26
41   24
42   25
43   34
44   22
45   3
46   23
47   9
48   19
49   8
50   13
51   35
52   28
53   33
54   28
55   23
56   12
57   19
58   1
59   16
60   4
   
61   18
62   21
63   29
64   15
65   5
66   11
67   6
68   15
69   11
70   34
71   14
72   22
73   31
74   15
75   0
76   32
77   36
78   7
79   22

[Priyanka]

  notto....


A nice little tool for KTF for testing. All you need to do is populate the spins in the pink column.