KTF

[nottophammer]

I only measured up to 40 spins thinking the effect of watching the first ten spins go by could not possibly have an effect beyond 40, that is, 30 live spins after watching the first 10.   The worst thing that can happen is the results be random, with no perceivable bias to either side, in any tested circumstance.   

At last after all the comedy above a sensible reply.
Still, you say,no perceivable bias to either side, exactly, most games gives 50/50 over the 30 spins, 11-40, 15 non-hit and 15 repeats.
Everyone listen i dont KTF, i just watch the 30 spins, bet for  repeat or non-hit.
It's not hard with, 7,5,3 coming.
This from the Germans Data of 20757 live spins

[nottophammer]

Turner you do know GUT you told me about it years back.

If you cant stand with the casino card and track 1st 10 spins and watch next 30 spins and make decision then i see why you make comedy you are all

link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=I1UfM-PHExU

[Turner]

Turner you do know GUT you told me about it years back.

If you cant stand with the casino card and track 1st 10 spins and watch next 30 spins and make decision then i see why you make comedy you are all

link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=I1UfM-PHExU

may of lost in the text....I dont know KTF, I do know GUT. I was just saying that they are complicated to sit at a table and mistakes can be made

Its my story. I cant cope with a lot of thinking at the table.

[Turner]

Skakus....Notto, of course...I removed the posts. be nice please

[nottophammer]

Tuner
How many names does he go under, is bombus another that stupid transformer, perhaps he's even the idot, the general

[DoctorSudoku]

Tuner
How many names does he go under, is bombus another that stupid transformer, perhaps he's even the idot, the general

Nottop,
Our buddy Taotie goes by several different aliases on different forums:
Bombus
Skakus
Green Guy (at betselection)
Trilobite (at roulette30)
Marshall Bing Bell

There may be other aliases that he uses -- these are the ones that I am aware of.

[DoctorSudoku]

Exactly right! I ripped the casino a new asshole tonight and I didn't stop to think about LOTT, KTF, ROTT or any other acronym under the sun (no offence)… Just good old common sense, you either win the next spin or not should you decide to bet.

36
22
28
13
16
30
29
15
23
29
13
12
25 col a
4 col a
19 col a
19 col a (repeat)
11
28
31
27 col c
6 col c
24 col c
6 col c (repeat)
21 col c
18col c
21 col c (repeat)
25
18 col c (repeat)

30 col c
31
30 col c (repeat)

11
2

It really doesn't have to be complicated, not at all!!

Wiggy,
Any columns-related strategy always gets my attention. Thus, I have a few questions related to your above post.

I am assuming the numbers appear chronologically from top (oldest) to bottom (newest).

1.
I know that even though you are based in the UK, you have an interest in the distribution of the the column numbers on the double zero wheel. So did you play this method on a double zero wheel, by any chance?

2.
This seems to be a method targeting column repeats (i.e. consecutive repeats). See highlighted numbers above.

a.
Then why is the 30 (the third last number) regarded as a repeat of the previous 30 (which is the fifth last number)?
Sandwiched between the two 30s is 31 -- which is a number from the first column. 

b.
Also, why is 2 (the last number) not regarded as a repeat number, since the previous number is 11 -- and they are both second column numbers?
Is this method targeting consecutive repeats for ONLY the first and third columns -- and NOT the second? If so, why is that?

If possible, please answer the above questions.
Thanks.

[wiggy]

Hello DoctorSudoku,

To answer your questions:

1) These numbers came from a single zero wheel.

2) They don't necessarily need to be continuous repeats. A gap of 1 is fine.

From another game.....

30 col c
18 col c
26
30 col c (repeat)
31
36 col c
22
27 col c

The numbers last night just happened to come out in a continuous fashion which is great for maximizing things. Even after the 11 and 2....14 and 29 appeared and the 29 was a repeat. What I mean by a repeat is that the specific number has made a previous appearance in my list. I am trying to capture hot numbers but in a cluster so that I can play up the winnings over a short space of time. So it's a type of positive progression instead of playing a negative style where you can stretch things out a bit more. My reasoning is that if it's hot, it's hot and you might as well go for it.

If you want to be a bit more conservative, you can group things into the sixlines.
I convert the columns into six lines in the following way....

Line 1: 1,4,7,10,13,16
Line 2: 19,22,25,28,31,34
Line 3: 2,5,8,11,14,17
Line 4: 20,23,26,29,32,35
Line 5: 3,6,9,12,15,18
Line 6: 21,24,27,30,33,36

So in the numbers above....

30 col c (line 6)
18 col c (line 5)
26
30 col c (line 6)
31
36 col c (line 6)
22
27 col c (line 6)

So the 6 line (21,24,27,30,33,36) is dominant.

cheers

[The General]

Spanish i think, that was using a 16 bit computer to measure whether a wheel was tilted or not

That's absurd.  You don't use a computer to see if a wheel is tilted.  You just look and collect 50 spins worth of deflector smacks.  Pretty simple stuff.   

[Steve]

Everyone needs to understand if you have a suitable wheel, you can literally learn to beat it in a few minutes.

[RouletteGhost]

oh yea

just THAT easy

if that were the case all the AP players would bankrupt the casinos

shake my damn head

[Steve]

oh yea

just THAT easy

ABSOLUTELY. If you doubt it, then you've got no idea.

if that were the case all the AP players would bankrupt the casinos

Nope, because you cant just win $1m and expect the casino to do nothing.

Beating a wheel is easy. Beating the casino is difference because it requires you to avoid detection.

I'll give one example.... you find a typical wheel with typical dominant diamond, typical scatter. The dealers usually close bets about 4 revolutions before the ball falls. You can comfortably get a 10% edge with VB.

The main problem is although you have a strong edge, you cant just bet late spin after spin. It would be too obvious. So you need to be patient, and make deliberate losing and diversionary bets to remain undetected. That might bring your edge down to about 5%. It's still profitable, but you'd also need to bet with smaller units to avoid heat. This means maybe you can earn about $500 in around 2 hours of play. That to a professional player is kinda shit.

But it's easily done. It just takes patience.

And you arent going to do it day after day. Again although winning was easy enough, if you keep coming back too often to the same casino, eventually you'll be noticed. Then all the casino needs to do is close bets earlier until you lose or leave.

There are other methods which are also effective, which allow you to bet BEFORE ball release. They arent difficult either, but you must be attentive or you can go from hitting the right sector to avoiding it. This makes your edge even worse than -2.7%, so you lose even faster than random bet selection.

The reason I prefer roulette computers is because a much higher edge can be obtained, and much in less time. For example +50%. But because of actions required to avoid detection, the actual edge might be 20%. And that's easily enough to win large sums in a short time, while avoiding detection.

Besides needing time and patience, there's nothing particularly difficult about beating casinos. The hardest part is really the TIME it takes for traditional AP. Sure you can spend 8 hours at work each day, but spending that time in casinos is rather tiring. And if you dont know what you're doing, you run a higher risk of just wasting time.

[Steve]

There really is so much bullshit and false beliefs about what it takes to beat roulette. None of it is difficult. But if you make mistakes, or dont have the right mindset, you'll probably just burn money.

Realistically very few people have what it takes to play professionally. This is for a few reasons like:

* You need to either learn quickly, or have money to waste while you're learning. Mistakes and slow learning are costly. But if you learn properly without betting real money, then you're a lot more ready for real play, without the risk.

* Most people are too lazy and expect to wave a magic wand and win a fortune.

* Most people dont understand the concept of an edge, and that it takes place over longer term. They're looking for a roulette table to behave like an ATM without any work.

There are more reasons. Again most people dont have what it takes.

[The General]

Ghost,

There's a world that you don't even know exists.
As long as you're lazy and laying around, it will continue to pass you by.

[Madi]

Ghost,

There's a world that you don't even know exists.
As long as you're lazy and laying around, it will continue to pass you by.

You r right . The world is named dream world. If you are lazy and dont want to look for stars in the day time its not for you. Go to bed , look at 60s vedio on youtube, take a overdose of meth, look at the sky 🌌 u will get it