Previous Six DS

[celescliff]

Celtic Casino 02/Feb/2016
42 spins = + 19 units.  FLAT BET
6 Wide Matrix
V bets on 0

-Celtic

Thank you for testing Celtic. 

[Noreilles]

Hi. I have tested it (virtually, by taking numbers down) at 888casino these past 2 days, played at 5 different tables. So far it works surprisingly well.

Here's how I tested: continuous bet same as DS 6 numbers back, when it's a 0 wait a spin no bet, flatbet but if you lose 6 in a row double up until either back even or more OR 6 loses at double units. Total cost is 18 units, aim is 5 wins per table (around 10-20 units usually).

1. +15 units
2. +12 units
3. -14 units
4. +8 units
5. +10 units
6. +20 units
7. +13 units
8. +5 units (kids calling)

So +69 units in 8 sessions... Might have to give this a try when I'm not too tired to play for real (as I am now, I make too many mistakes even on a simple system like this... Well maybe not this one, but I got burned in the past playing tired so no more).

Stay lucky everyone!

[Tomla021]

Pretty simple and it won  32 units on  00 thru 78 spins---why it works I have no idea lol .....def. worth some more tests

[Celticknits]

Pretty simple and it won  32 units on  00 thru 78 spins---why it works I have no idea lol .....def. worth some more tests

-Tomla

How did you play it?

-Celtic

[RouletteGhost]

Flat betting a bet that pays 6 to 1 is nice.....

[Celticknits]

I have a B&M casino within minutes of my house.
I do not know if that is a good thing or a bad thing but.............

Anyways I tried this out yesterday and played flatbet.
To me if you are going to flatbet then flatbet do not start increasing your bets after x bets because of losses.
To me that is not flatbetting.
I won yesterday but like Tomla I'll be damned if I know why.

So today I trekked over to give it a try again only this time I decided to just V bet after a win on one line and record the numbers to play in the next line. I played a matrix of 6.
With a 1unit bet I was up to +12 after 60 spins.
Since I was only playing $1 bets with a session BR of $30 not bad.

In other posts I noticed a suggestion of 50% Win/Stop
Had I not got carried away I could have walked with $18 instead of $12, about 12 spins sooner.

When I got home I took the numbers played and analyzed them.
This is what I found:

With a matrix of 4 numbers and playing every time I would have ended up with -6 units
With a matrix of 4 numbers and stopping after a win on a line I would have ended up with +10 units

With a matrix of 5 numbers and playing every time I would have ended up with +7 units
With a matrix of 5 numbers and stopping after a win on a line I would have ended up with +12 units

Had I not stopped after a win on a line I would have ended up with +8 instead of the +12 with the matrix of 6 numbers.

-Celtic

[Celticknits]

Flat betting a bet that pays 6 to 1 is nice.....

-RG

My casino only pays 5:1 on a DS

-Celtic

[MrJ]

On a 00 wheel, its real easy to remember. 5 pays out 6 AND 6 pays out 5.

Ken

[celescliff]

I made two more test but this time I tracked two tables at the same time and waiting for a full 6 matrix loss then bet with 1 units. If I get a full 6 matrix loss again I raised to 2 units.

Aiming for 10+ units.

Test 1: +15 units

Test 2: +10 units

Will post the chart later.

A full 6 matrix loss could come quite often not often. I´ve only experienced 3 6 matrix losses one time and Ive tested almost 1000 spins now.

[RouletteGhost]

-RG

My casino only pays 5:1 on a DS

-Celtic

Yes. What i meant

[RouletteGhost]

I have a B&M casino within minutes of my house.
I do not know if that is a good thing or a bad thing but.............

Anyways I tried this out yesterday and played flatbet.
To me if you are going to flatbet then flatbet do not start increasing your bets after x bets because of losses.
To me that is not flatbetting.
I won yesterday but like Tomla I'll be damned if I know why.

So today I trekked over to give it a try again only this time I decided to just V bet after a win on one line and record the numbers to play in the next line. I played a matrix of 6.
With a 1unit bet I was up to +12 after 60 spins.
Since I was only playing $1 bets with a session BR of $30 not bad.

In other posts I noticed a suggestion of 50% Win/Stop
Had I not got carried away I could have walked with $18 instead of $12, about 12 spins sooner.

When I got home I took the numbers played and analyzed them.
This is what I found:

With a matrix of 4 numbers and playing every time I would have ended up with -6 units
With a matrix of 4 numbers and stopping after a win on a line I would have ended up with +10 units

With a matrix of 5 numbers and playing every time I would have ended up with +7 units
With a matrix of 5 numbers and stopping after a win on a line I would have ended up with +12 units

Had I not stopped after a win on a line I would have ended up with +8 instead of the +12 with the matrix of 6 numbers.

-Celtic

Ive seem this happen before different matrix lengths being the difference between -10 and +10

I do like the idea of after a win on a line stop betting until next line

[celescliff]

here are the chart for above test. Thanks guys for testing aswell. I should add that after win I sat and waited the remaining spins out.

flat is the way to go but I wanted to see some progression test and will continue to test both.

[Big EZ]

this is from zuma 15k american wheel

5 6 1 3 1 2
3 4 5 1 2 5 = 0
4 6 1 3 5 1 = 0
2 6 4 2 0 0 = 1
0 4 3 6 4 4 = 0
1 1 4 3 4 2 = 1
5 3 0 1 5 4 = 0
0 2 3 5 5 6 = 1
5 2 4 1 4 3 = 2
1 4 4 6 3 3 = 2
2 6 6 1 3 3 = 2
2 1 2 3 3 3 = 3
3 3 1 4 1 1 = 0
3 3 2 4 3 5 = 3
6 6 5 1 6 1 = 0
0 4 4 0 2 6 = 0
1 6 3 0 5 5 = 0
6 3 6 4 1 6 = 0
3 1 2 5 2 2 = 0
3 5 1 4 5 2 = 2         

spins 1230-1350

It was looking good until it go to this point in testing and I stopped.  How would you handle this?

[celescliff]

this is from zuma 15k american wheel

5 6 1 3 1 2
3 4 5 1 2 5 = 0
4 6 1 3 5 1 = 0
2 6 4 2 0 0 = 1
0 4 3 6 4 4 = 0
1 1 4 3 4 2 = 1
5 3 0 1 5 4 = 0
0 2 3 5 5 6 = 1
5 2 4 1 4 3 = 2
1 4 4 6 3 3 = 2
2 6 6 1 3 3 = 2
2 1 2 3 3 3 = 3
3 3 1 4 1 1 = 0
3 3 2 4 3 5 = 3
6 6 5 1 6 1 = 0
0 4 4 0 2 6 = 0  < played this -6
1 6 3 0 5 5 = 0  < not this, since you have two 0 last matrix
6 3 6 4 1 6 = 0  < not this either since 0 came up on last matrix
3 1 2 5 2 2 = 0  < played this with 1 units -12
3 5 1 4 5 2 = 2  < played this with 2 units -2. 1 win so wait the rest be virtual

spins 1230-1350

It was looking good until it go to this point in testing and I stopped.  How would you handle this?

Thanks for testing and I forgot to add a thing I did on my test above. When 0 comes I don't play that matrix 6 at all. Look above how I would play if I used progression. -3 if you played 2 units on the next matrix loss and 3 on the last.

[Celticknits]

this is from zuma 15k american wheel

5 6 1 3 1 2
3 4 5 1 2 5 = 0
4 6 1 3 5 1 = 0
2 6 4 2 0 0 = 1
0 4 3 6 4 4 = 0
1 1 4 3 4 2 = 1
5 3 0 1 5 4 = 0
0 2 3 5 5 6 = 1
5 2 4 1 4 3 = 2
1 4 4 6 3 3 = 2
2 6 6 1 3 3 = 2
2 1 2 3 3 3 = 3
3 3 1 4 1 1 = 0
3 3 2 4 3 5 = 3
6 6 5 1 6 1 = 0
0 4 4 0 2 6 = 0
1 6 3 0 5 5 = 0
6 3 6 4 1 6 = 0
3 1 2 5 2 2 = 0
3 5 1 4 5 2 = 2         

spins 1230-1350

It was looking good until it go to this point in testing and I stopped.  How would you handle this?

-Big EZ

5 6 1 3 1 2
3 4 5 1 2 5 = 0     -6
4 6 1 3 5 1 = 0     -12
2 6 4 2 0 0 = 1     -8
0 4 3 6 4 4 = 0     -14
1 1 4 3 4 2 = 1     -13
5 3 0 1 5 4 = 0     -19
0 2 3 5 5 6 = 1     -18
5 2 4 1 4 3 = 2     -14
1 4 4 6 3 3 = 2     -11 STOP and accept the loss after approx 1 hour of playing
2 6 6 1 3 3 = 2     -10
2 1 2 3 3 3 = 3     -5
3 3 1 4 1 1 = 0     -11
3 3 2 4 3 5 = 3     -6
6 6 5 1 6 1 = 0     -12
0 4 4 0 2 6 = 0     -18
1 6 3 0 5 5 = 0     -24
6 3 6 4 1 6 = 0     -30 STOP/LOSS Reached
3 1 2 5 2 2 = 0     -36
3 5 1 4 5 2 = 2     -31

Personally I would have stopped this sequence after 1 hour of playing and accept the loss.
The numbers shown represent flat betting and a stop after the first win on any one line.
This is the first negative listing I have seen for this method.

-Celtic