Street Betting System

[RouletteGhost]

Great work

The effort and charts speaks volumes

[whoisthewomanme]

3 more games this afternoon. All winners

[mogul397]

will take ages

dont hold your breath

ultimate thread destroyer this guy

reply #36- "Mogul. Try not to throw it in the trash if it has a few losses on zumma. Just some friendly advice to you. Because you do do that"

In response to that point, I may do that and it may seem like that. If/when that happens,
do you also note that it sticks? And when it does, it is because, apparently, that other people
experience the same inconsistent performance on whatever level?  I truly doubt  (and hope) that
my stamp of disapproval alone leads people to discard a method.

All I am noting so far is that the money management is the same as a 2 dozen labby, just
presented in a different way.

[RouletteGhost]

expand your horizons from zumma

i have the same zumma you do

the problem with zumma is i can find a loss for ANY method.

my method, mr j method, GUT, KTF, you name it and I will find a loss in zumma for it.

the method this woman has presented is not a 1 3 9 progression method. far from.

[MrJ]

expand your horizons from zumma

i have the same zumma you do

the problem with zumma is i can find a loss for ANY method.

my method, mr j method, GUT, KTF, you name it and I will find a loss in zumma for it.

the method this woman has presented is not a 1 3 9 progression method. far from.

What method is that?

Ken

[RouletteGhost]

What method is that?

Ken

Im making a point to mogul

Mogul relies heavily on zumma

Whenever someone posts a method he finds a page in zumma where it loses then the thread declines

So my point to mogul is any and all methods have a losing page in zumma

Unless you increase the accuracy of your predictions

Us hobbyists like creating methods with triggers. And believe me you there will be losses in zumma. If there werent it wouldnt be roulette

[mogul397]

3 Games so far this morning. All winners.

Can you delineate what the bets are, and how they change when
you switch to streets?

[whoisthewomanme]

Can you delineate what the bets are, and how they change when
you switch to streets?

That's already done in the images and my previous explanations.

[whoisthewomanme]

3 games this morning. All winners. 

[mogul397]

Im making a point to mogul

Mogul relies heavily on zumma

Whenever someone posts a method he finds a page in zumma where it loses then the thread declines

So my point to mogul is any and all methods have a losing page in zumma

Unless you increase the accuracy of your predictions

Us hobbyists like creating methods with triggers. And believe me you there will be losses in zumma. If there werent it wouldnt be roulette

What could there be about zumma that would be a bad thing to use? I could throw darts at a board.
If zumma is "contrived", then the results are certainly those that could appear on a wheel.  That
is a definite. What is also definite is that whoever contrived it could NEVER contrive against this,
or any specific method.

Reminds me of an old, funny "All in the Family".  Archie was arguing with Gloria about gun control.
Gloria quoted how many people  were killed by guns every year. Archie turned and said, "Would you
feel better if they were pushed out of windows"?

So which do you want.  Zumma? Darts?  (36 side dice roll?). When I was mobile I also would have
lost of air ball data. And then you'd complain that someone is sitting in the machine.

Honesly. What a way to waste time.. I may be the "system breaker", but when you can't find
anything else, you always come through with something ridiculous to harp about.

[RouletteGhost]

Loving all the results here

I will add this to my weekend tests

You and guys like notto are what we need here

[mogul397]

That's already done in the images and my previous explanations.

You describe, through implication, how you bet. Like you bet
4 double  streets, and lost 4 units. That is clear.

But it is not clear how you allofasudden, switch to streets, and why and how.

It's difficult to explain or show. You have a very good way of documenting the
games.  But I can't easily edit them.

* Mar 22 Tue Game 1.jpg (152.82 kB, 1650x1275 - viewed 9 times.)


In this game it is fairly easy to see the workout.  You got 4 distinct streets
that you expand to double streets.  11,1,5 and 7 all expand, toward the center
(6 and 7) to be 1/2 4/5 6/7 and 10/11.


* Mar 22 Tue Game 2.jpg (151.99 kB, 1650x1275 - viewed 9 times.)

This game was a lot more complicated, with duplicated.

If I were tracking it, I would have begun betting on spin #7 I think.
By that time you cold conjure double streets 5/6 (from spin 2),
7/8 (from spin 5)   9/10 (from spin 1) abd 11/12 (from spin 6)

Yet you keep going.  Your documentation is outstanding, but when you
follow it spin by spin, that is what happens.

From there, you bet on spin #13 as you say.  I didn't understand how we
got that far to begin with. If I did, then I wouldn't understand what you
did to split into streets.  I guess it would be 1 unit on 10 streets by your
math.  That is more than half the board and only leaves 2 streets or
6 numbers vacant. That is MORE than betting 2 dozen.

(BTW, when you get to betting 6 streets, it is half the table and the same thing
as making an even money bet. Hence, possibly, making the math and recovery easier).

So next it LOOKS like you bet 10 streets again with 2 units? Don't know. Have to
figure it out. I think you would win 22 unit (11 per chip) and win 22 units. Not
21 as you document. On the 3rd bet.

This has you in for a total of 40 units. If I play a labby on 2 dozen, I play 1,3,9.
That is -2, -6, and -18 for 3 losses. That is -27. If you lost 3 bets it would be -40.

I realize it isn't apples to apples. But close enough.

And I still don't know which streets you cover on the 3rd bet.

(This too much "thinkin'" for you, RG?)

Just an example of the confusion.

[mogul397]

What method is that?

Ken

I love it. But you could stop at the fact that he never posts actual results to his
fictitious methods.

I applaud TW (the woman) for her work and workouts for her method.
(See that? TW?  You have achieved "acronymdom"

[RouletteGhost]

My fault. My instinct was to completely ignore you

But full blown ignorance bothers me

I take full responsibility and should have never interacted with you

[whoisthewomanme]

You describe, through implication, how you bet. Like you bet
4 double  streets, and lost 4 units. That is clear.

But it is not clear how you allofasudden, switch to streets, and why and how.

It's difficult to explain or show. You have a very good way of documenting the
games.  But I can't easily edit them.

* Mar 22 Tue Game 1.jpg (152.82 kB, 1650x1275 - viewed 9 times.)


In this game it is fairly easy to see the workout.  You got 4 distinct streets
that you expand to double streets.  11,1,5 and 7 all expand, toward the center
(6 and 7) to be 1/2 4/5 6/7 and 10/11.


* Mar 22 Tue Game 2.jpg (151.99 kB, 1650x1275 - viewed 9 times.)

This game was a lot more complicated, with duplicated.

If I were tracking it, I would have begun betting on spin #7 I think.
By that time you cold conjure double streets 5/6 (from spin 2),
7/8 (from spin 5)   9/10 (from spin 1) abd 11/12 (from spin 6)

Yet you keep going.  Your documentation is outstanding, but when you
follow it spin by spin, that is what happens.

From there, you bet on spin #13 as you say.  I didn't understand how we
got that far to begin with. If I did, then I wouldn't understand what you
did to split into streets.  I guess it would be 1 unit on 10 streets by your
math.  That is more than half the board and only leaves 2 streets or
6 numbers vacant. That is MORE than betting 2 dozen.

(BTW, when you get to betting 6 streets, it is half the table and the same thing
as making an even money bet. Hence, possibly, making the math and recovery easier).

So next it LOOKS like you bet 10 streets again with 2 units? Don't know. Have to
figure it out. I think you would win 22 unit (11 per chip) and win 22 units. Not
21 as you document. On the 3rd bet.

This has you in for a total of 40 units. If I play a labby on 2 dozen, I play 1,3,9.
That is -2, -6, and -18 for 3 losses. That is -27. If you lost 3 bets it would be -40.

I realize it isn't apples to apples. But close enough.

And I still don't know which streets you cover on the 3rd bet.

(This too much "thinkin'" for you, RG?)

Just an example of the confusion.

Hey mogul,

Your understanding of Mar 22 Tue Game 1 are correct.

Let's explore Mar 22 Tue Game 2.

You mentioned you would start betting on spin 7 with double streets 5/6 (from spin 2),
7/8 (from spin 5)   9/10 (from spin 1) and 11/12 (from spin 6).

This is really close but not quite accurate. At spin 7, I only counted 3 streets because I always combine two streets that are together. In this case, street 10 (from spin 1) and street 11 (from spin 6) were combined into 1 double street. (where as you split them into two separate ones). So I had to go a few more spins until I had the 4th double street. Does that make sense?

Now, when I switch to streets (which is only in 2 scenarios... #1 the first two bets are 4 double streets and both bets lose... #2 If the second bet would require 5 double streets instead of 4 to cover everything...).... I'm just betting on the streets that have been hit.

So here we had 4 double streets that lost.... -4u. A fifth was now required so we switch to streets. Going into the second bet we had 8 streets to bet on. Now, if this bet wins I will make +4u. That would make the game breakeven. I want to go for the win so I have to bet 2u per street. That will give me +8u and a +4u net win.

However, that bet losses. Fine. So now we have 9 streets to bet on going into bet #3. We have a drawdown of -20u. I know that with 9 streets I will profit +3u per unit bet... so If I want to win I have to bet 7u per street. That will win me +21 units for a net +1u win.

Hope that all makes sense.

Yes, there will be times where we are betting more than 2 dozen numbers. (which is why I don't equate this to playing double dozens or the usual progressions found there)

Yes, with 6 streets it is just an even money bet... however it's not covering the numbers I want to cover.

Anyway, hope that helps clear up any of your confusion.