Street Betting System

[whoisthewomanme]

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Please ignore the maths in this game. They are bit off. lol That's what happens when you are updating the spreadsheet post game. Was still a winning game though but only for +1u not +2u.

If anyone wants to tackle the correct bet sizing as a little "test" feel free to for it

[RouletteGhost]

i have a question

i know this is based on occurrences of a street hit 3 times to turn to 4 within 36 spins.

my question is if you have a street hit 3 times prior to hitting 25 spins will you continue to wait or will you begin betting that street?

i know in your first post you said you wait 25 spins, then wait for a paper win...but on any occasion do you begin early if a street hits 3 hits?

[whoisthewomanme]

Hey RG,

If I'm playing a game where I'm waiting the full 25 spins + paper win.... I DO NOT start betting until then.

If I have a street go to 3 occurrences prior to the 25 spins, I'll keep waiting.

Hope that answers your question.

[ewarwoowar]

Hello WITWM and thank you for sharing your method.

Have you tried betting a street to hit again after 3 hits?

Is this method that you're sharing with us, the result of tests you've carried out?

Just to clarify it, you wait a 25 spin cycle, then bet on streets that have 4 hits, after a virtual W?

Thanks again.

[whoisthewomanme]

Hey ewarwoowar,

The initial method is betting on streets that have hit 3 times or more after 25 spins (plus a paper win). Some will have hit 3 times others may have been hit 6, we would bet them all the same as long as they have been hit 3 times.

Does that make sense?

[Turner]

Hello WITWM and thank you for sharing your method.

Have you tried betting a street to hit again after 3 hits?

Is this method that you're sharing with us, the result of tests you've carried out?

Just to clarify it, you wait a 25 spin cycle, then bet on streets that have 4 hits, after a virtual W?

Thanks again.

Hey Ed....
Hows it going mate.

[ewarwoowar]

Sorry Turner, just seen this. I'm fine thanks. You ok?

[mogul397]

Hey mogul,

Your understanding of Mar 22 Tue Game 1 are correct.

Let's explore Mar 22 Tue Game 2.

You mentioned you would start betting on spin 7 with double streets 5/6 (from spin 2),
7/8 (from spin 5)   9/10 (from spin 1) and 11/12 (from spin 6).

This is really close but not quite accurate. At spin 7, I only counted 3 streets because I always combine two streets that are together. In this case, street 10 (from spin 1) and street 11 (from spin 6) were combined into 1 double street. (where as you split them into two separate ones). So I had to go a few more spins until I had the 4th double street. Does that make sense?

Now, when I switch to streets (which is only in 2 scenarios... #1 the first two bets are 4 double streets and both bets lose... #2 If the second bet would require 5 double streets instead of 4 to cover everything...).... I'm just betting on the streets that have been hit.

So here we had 4 double streets that lost.... -4u. A fifth was now required so we switch to streets. Going into the second bet we had 8 streets to bet on. Now, if this bet wins I will make +4u. That would make the game breakeven. I want to go for the win so I have to bet 2u per street. That will give me +8u and a +4u net win.

However, that bet losses. Fine. So now we have 9 streets to bet on going into bet #3. We have a drawdown of -20u. I know that with 9 streets I will profit +3u per unit bet... so If I want to win I have to bet 7u per street. That will win me +21 units for a net +1u win.

Hope that all makes sense.

Yes, there will be times where we are betting more than 2 dozen numbers. (which is why I don't equate this to playing double dozens or the usual progressions found there)

Yes, with 6 streets it is just an even money bet... however it's not covering the numbers I want to cover.

Anyway, hope that helps clear up any of your confusion.

Well to start with, I had 1,  (2,3,4), 5, 6.

That is 4 street positions. From that I coupled the streets up
with adjoining streets, based on you rule about looking in toward
the center.  So I got 4 double streets. 

You have 3/4, 5/6, 8/9, and 10/11.  3 out of 4 of those double
streets have a hit, except for "5/6".   6 has no hit, and you filled it in.

At what point do you fill in to create a double street? When you only
have one street to add?  As opposed to 2 or 3 or 4?

[whoisthewomanme]

As soon as I have 4 line bets.

If 4 streets are hit and none of them are adjacent, I fill in (using the side closer to the middle 6/7 streets)

If two streets get hit and are adjacent, they get filled in together and count as 1 line bet. So would still need either 3 more line bets. Those could be 3 streets that were hit with no adjacent and need a fill in... or it could be a total of 6 more streets all being combined with an adjacent hit street... totaling 3 more line bets

[mogul397]

That's what I did.

Quoting myself

By that time you could conjure double streets 5/6 (from spin 2,3,4),
7/8 (from spin 5)   9/10 (from spin 1) and 11/12 (from spin 6)

Expanding inward to make lines from streets.

[whoisthewomanme]

You are incorrect because you are splitting street 10 (from spin 1) and street 11 (from spin 6) into two different line bets.

My rules state that you always combine adjacent streets that have been hit. Those are adjacent streets so it becomes 10/11. NOT 9/10 and 11/12.

[mogul397]

So you're saying that the combination of spin 1 and 6 combine, so at that
point you don't have 4 lines to set up. Only 3 because they combine.
Correct?

If so, then let me move forward and ask about money. What is your unit size?
And as you are winning games, how much are you making?  I find a lot of time
here that people are betting $1 or 10 cent or something. So a few units doesn't
add up to much.

[whoisthewomanme]

Yes, that's correct.

My unit size is $8. The win usually nets +2u so +$16 per win. I just hit +250u a couple of days ago with means I have doubled the bankroll. I've put it aside and will continue using my current bankroll putting aside the profits every time I double it.

Although, I don't see how unit size is relevant. If someone is in a 3rd world country and can only afford 10 cents as their unit size... but are winning fairly consistently... that doesn't mean their system or strategy or method is any less viable than someone playing it but with a $10 unit size.

[mogul397]

Yes, that's correct.

My unit size is $8. The win usually nets +2u so +$16 per win. I just hit +250u a couple of days ago with means I have doubled the bankroll. I've put it aside and will continue using my current bankroll putting aside the profits every time I double it.

Although, I don't see how unit size is relevant. If someone is in a 3rd world country and can only afford 10 cents as their unit size... but are winning fairly consistently... that doesn't mean their system or strategy or method is any less viable than someone playing it but with a $10 unit size.

In the long run it matters.  Income and risk. As you say, for what someone can afford.
But for a bread and butter method, making $3 when you make a trip is silly.
Other times (don't ask me why) when people go all in and take risk, the thing seems
different. Sometimes the "time tested strategy" fails.  Sometimes people get nervous and
don't follow the method.  The unit size actually effects play somehow. And for someone
playing for pennies the bragging right is smaller.

For me, if I decide something is good, I will test it on paper, live, with my note book.
And bring back results. Much like you have. And report them. I applaud you for that.
The casino is 3 exits down from me now. (A trip to he hardware store).  The airball is
$3 min (a consideration).  But it is also fast. And while I had honed some other methods
that I tested (and failed on paper), I was noticing that when I approached betting in my
head, that the spin results might be pressing the time I had to figure out my bet and
make it.

This one is way more complicated.  Not sure how much time I would have to calculate
next steps and the the odd amounts to bet on each line or street.

[whoisthewomanme]

I agree. Unit size can effect mindset and player decisions if not well trained and conditioned to stick to "the plan". I also agree that making a trip to make $3 is hardly worth it. lol

There is a little bit of mental exercise required with this method at first. With practice though it becomes second nature like anything else. I played with sims for a good while until I could do everything quickly and now I don't even really need to think about it.