Blue Angel's HG (Fallacious)

[Big EZ]

Download the file (right click and save): :.roulettephysics.com/files/1and2.txt

1 is red, 2 is black.

Then search for any sequence you want. There are over 4,00,000 spins in the file.

Thank you

[Steve]

Why dont we just test the working principle for bet selection. And ask the question: does the method of backing sleepers change the odds that the sleepers will somehow come back and become hot numbers?

NOOOOO. And thats my point.

So if the odds of winning havent changed, what's left? A martingale.

It's worse than reinventing a broken wheel. You just need to see it for what it is.

RX testing will show the same thing. I'd love for someone to code this in RX and publish the file.

[denzie]

I'd love for someone to code this in RX and publish the file.

We all would like to see that 

[MrJ]

Why dont we just test the working principle for bet selection. And ask the question: does the method of backing sleepers change the odds that the sleepers will somehow come back and become hot numbers?

NOOOOO. And thats my point.

So if the odds of winning havent changed, what's left? A martingale.

It's worse than reinventing a broken wheel. You just need to see it for what it is.

RX testing will show the same thing. I'd love for someone to code this in RX and publish the file.

See? Doesn't it just kill ya to say nothing? (lol)

Ken

[Steve]

Yes Ken. It goes in circles. But I recognize I probably wouldnt have "gotten it" either. But now that I do understand it, I dont know what I was thinking. I'm sure I've said that too, many times before.

[RouletteGhost]

all that matters is this guy beat 1 million spins

we need to know can it be repeated? is it playable? and how long to secure enough profit to end for the day?

[MrJ]

all that matters is this guy beat 1 million spins

we need to know can it be repeated? is it playable? and how long to secure enough profit to end for the day?

Ok, I'm notorious for not reading every post, indulge me. How do we/you know he beat 1 million spins?

Ken

[MrJ]

Ok, I'm notorious for not reading every post, indulge me. How do we/you know he beat 1 million spins?

Ken

Please dont tell me, he TOLD YOU SO?

Ken

[RouletteGhost]

RouletteGhost is no longer here to butt heads. RouletteGhost is here for one reason and one reason only. to test. to test. to see what works. and win.

[MrJ]

RouletteGhost is no longer here to butt heads. RouletteGhost is here for one reason and one reason only. to test. to test. to see what works. and win.

I respect that 100% !! Can I say one last thing? (maybe second last thing)

Make sure your testing matches up perfectly with ACTUAL play, thats all I want to say, deuces.

Ken

[RouletteGhost]

I respect that 100% !! Can I say one last thing? (maybe second last thing)

Make sure your testing matched up perfectly with ACTUAL play, thats all I want to say, deuces.

Ken

i agree. thats why grassroots is my personal HG

[MrJ]

I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.

Thomas A. Edison (or Ken?)

[thelaw]

Update......The Plot Thickens!!!

"I saw lots of hue and cry over the progression suggested by Blue Angel which I like to call "Delayed Martingale". i have created a tracker for the same for everyone to see. Anybody is free to post/attach the tracker to all relevant forums as I do not write in other forums. It tanks so badly that eventually, it will need infinite chips and unlimited table limits like regular martingale. I have attached a regular session and an RNG page where anybody can see infinite 10k spins sessions with this way.
I do not have any enmity with either Blue Angel or Nickmsi as both have been my friends and they have every right to suggest methods as I or anybody do. I just want to show all that just delaying the martingale by playing in spans of 37 spins, doesn't make a winner by itself."

I could not attach excel directly here so uploaded it on file upload site: link:://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=00136778777113954514

link:://:.GF/threads/anybody-think-such-bad-streak-can-be-won.4269/

-Albalaha

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And then.......

"Updated report from 10000 spins from random.org

After 1567 spins the total is +158 units

Bet never exceed 16 units

Max drawdown 161 units

I will upload this excel file when I'm done with it."

-Blue Angel

I think that this was in response to a challenge from another poster, so he's catching up from a few days ago. The original poster claimed that the method failed with these same numbers, and BA has been updating this every couple of days.

[Blue_Angel]

BETTING ALWAYS ON RED / FRENCH ROULETTE WITH "LE PARTAGE" RULE

S=Spin  R=Result T=Total   
S           R            T

1          -1          -1
2          -1          -2
3 W       +1         -1
4          -1          -2
5 W       +1         -1
6          -1          -2
7 W      +1         -1
8          -1          -2
9          -1          -3
10 W     +1         -2
11         -1          -3
12 W     +1         -2
13         -1          -3
14/ZERO -0.5      -3.5
15         -1        -4.5
16 W     +1       -3.5
17         -1        -4.5
18         -1        -5.5
19         -1        -6.5
20         -1        -7.5
21 W     +1       -6.5
22         -1        -7.5
23 W     +1       -6.5
24         -1        -7.5
25         -1        -8.5
26         -1        -9.5
27         -1        -10.5 
28         -1        -11.5
29 W      +1       -10.5
30         -1        -11.5
31 W      +1       -10.5
32 W      +1       -9.5
33         -1        -10.5
34         -1        -11.5
35 W      +1       -10.5
36 W      +1       -9.5
37 W      +1       -8.5
38 W      +2       -6.5  BET RAISES TO 2 UNITS
39         -2        -8.5
40         -2        -10.5
41         -2        -12.5
42 W     +2       -10.5
43         -2        -12.5
44         -2        -14.5
45 W     +2       -12.5
46 W     +2       -10.5
47         -2        -12.5
48         -2        -14.5
49         -2        -16.5
50         -2        -18.5
51         -2        -20.5
52 W     +2       -18.5
53         -2        -20.5
54         -2        -22.5   
55 W     +2       -20.5
56         -2        -22.5
57         -2        -24.5
58 W     +2       -22.5
59         -2        -24.5
60         -2        -26.5
61         -2        -28.5
62 W     +2       -26.5
63         -2        -28.5
64         -2        -30.5
65 W     +2       -28.5
66         -2        -30.5
67         -2        -32.5   
68 W     +2       -30.5
69 W     +2       -28.5
70         -2        -30.5
71 W     +2       -28.5
72         -2        -30.5
73         -2        -32.5
74         -2        -34.5
75 W     +4       -30.5   BET RAISES TO 4 UNITS
76         -4        -34.5
77 W     +4       -30.5
78         -4        -34.5
79         -4        -38.5
80 W     +4       -34.5
81         -4        -38.5
82         -4        -42.5
83         -4        -46.5
84         -4        -50.5
85         -4        -52.5
86         -4        -56.5
87         -4        -60.5
88         -4        -64.5
89         -4        -68.5   
90 W     +4       -64.5
91         -4        -68.5
92 W     +4       -64.5
93         -4        -68.5
94         -4        -72.5
95 W     +4        -68.5
96        -4         -72.5
97 W     +4        -68.5
98        -4         -72.5
99        -4         -76.5
100      -4         -80.5
101 W    +4        -76.5
102 W    +4        -72.5
103      -4         -76.5
104 W    +4        -72.5
105/ZERO -2     -74.5
106       -4        -78.5
107       -4        -82.5
108       -4        -86.5
109       -4        -90.5
110       -4        -94.5
111       -4        -98.5
112       -8        -106.5  BET RAISES TO 8 UNITS
113       -8        -114.5
114 W     +8       -106.5
115       -8        -114.5
116       -8        -122.5   
117 W     +8       -114.5
118       -8        -122.5
119 W     +8       -114.5
120       -8        -122.5
121       -8        -130.5
122 W     +8       -122.5
123       -8        -130.5
124       -8        -138.5
125       -8        -146.5
126       -8        -154.5
127       -8        -162.5
128 W     +8       -154.5
129 W     +8       -146.5
130 W     +8       -138.5
131 W     +8       -130.5
132       -8        -138.5
133       -8        -146.5
134 W     +8       -138.5
135       -8        -146.5
136       -8        -154.5
137       -8        -162.5
138 W     +8       -154.5
139       -8        -162.5
140 W     +8       -154.5
141       -8        -162.5
142       -8        -170.5
143 W     +8       -162.5
144       -8        -170.5
145 W     +8       -162.5
146 W     +8       -154.5
147 W     +8       -146.5
148       -8        -154.5
149 W     +16     -138.5  BET RAISES TO 16 UNITS
150 W     +16      -122.5
151       -16       -138.5
152       -16       -154.5
153/ZERO -8     -162.5
154 W     +16      -146.5
155 W     +16      -130.5
156       -16       -146.5
157       -16       -162.5
158 W     +16      -146.5
159       -16       -162.5
160       -16       -178.5
161       -16       -194.5
162       -16       -210.5
163 W     +16      -194.5
164 W     +16      -178.5
165       -16       -194.5
166       -16       -210.5
167       -16       -226.5
168 W     +16      -210.5
169       -16      -226.5
170       -16       -242.5   
171 W     +16      -226.5
172 W     +16      -210.5
173       -16       -226.5
174 W     +16      -210.5
175 W     +16      -194.5
176       -16       -210.5
177       -16       -226.5
178       -16       -242.5
179       -16       -258.5
180 W     +16      -242.5
181       -16       -258.5
182       -16       -274.5
183       -16       -290.5
184 W     +16      -274.5
185       -16       -290.5
186/ZERO -16    -306.5     BET RAISES TO 32 UNITS
187 W     +32      -274.5
188       -32       -306.5
189       -32       -338.5
190/ZERO -16    -354.5
191       -32       -386.5
192 W    +32      -354.5
193 W    +32      -322.5
194       -32       -354.5
195       -32       -386.5
196 W   +32      -354.5
197       -32       -386.5
198       -32       -418.5
199/ZERO -16    -434.5
200          -32    -466.5
201     10      -32   -498.5
202     6        -32   -530.5 
203     14      +32   -498.5       
204     21      +32   -466.5         
205     30      +32   -434.5         
206     11      -32    -466.5         
207     12      +32   -434.5         
208     10      -32    -466.5       
209     22      -32    -498.5       
210     34      +32   -466.5       
211     10      -32    -498.5       
212     16      +32   -466.5       
213     0       -16     -482.5     
214     14      +32   -450.5     
215     8        -32    -482.5     
216     34      +32   -450.5     
217     18      +32   -418.5     
218     19      +32   -386.5     
219     25      +32   -354.5     
220     35      -32    -386.5     
221     34      +32   -354.5     
222     29      -32    -386.5     
223     16      +64   -322.5     BET RAISES TO 64 UNITS
224     21      +64   -258.5     
225     12      +64   -194.5     
226     30      +64   -130.5     
227     9        +64    -66.5     
228     34      +64    -2.5     
229     32      +64    +61.5     BET RESETS TO 1 UNIT

[Blue_Angel]

For the first cycle of 37 spins the SD is 2.23

For the first 2 cycles (74 spins) the SD is 3.32

For the first 3 cycles (111 spins) the SD is 4.36

For the first 4 cycles (148 spins) the SD is 4.69

For the first 5 cycles (185 spins) the SD is 5.10

For the first 6 cycles (222 spins) the SD is 5.29

The net profit of 61.5 is being achieved on the 229th spin and at that time the SD was 4.94

The maximum drawdown was on 202nd spin with -530.5 and 5.50 SD

87 wins 37.99% / 142 losses 62.01% at 229th spin which made the breakthrough.

An open challenge for everyone to find a worse sequence than this one!