Additions to forum rules

[Steve]

I've added some parts to the forum rules, which are all at link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9426.0

The most relevant additions relate to post editing or removal:



WHEN TO MODIFY OR EDIT POSTS


1. Remove a post only as a LAST RESORT. If you remove a post, contact the member and explain EXACTLY what about the post broke the rules. Do NOT just remove a post without explanation unless they are a new member obviously spamming or making trouble. Give established members respect by letting them know what they did wrong.

IF the member re-offends, you can place them to a moderated list so that their posts must be approved before being published:

To put a member on the moderation list:

   STEP 1. Click on the user
   STEP 2. Go to "Actions" and select "Issue a warning"
   STEP 3. You will see a little bar with + and -. Keep clicking the + until the bar turns orange, and the rating is at 35%.
   STEP 4. Enter a friendly notification message for the user that they will see when they are logged in.
   STEP 5. Click "issue warning".

   To undo the change, repeat the above steps but click the "-" button and make the bar turn green. Then just click "issue warning". This sets the new warning level/percentage so their posts dont need approval anymore.


2. Do NOT edit large sections of posts and replace them with characters like "." or it is impossible for me to see what was removed. If you do this and the member complains, then I cannot see what was edited, and I cannot determine if the editing was justified or not. This leaves me blind, and the member frustrated if they feel the edit was unjustified. But I CAN see entire removed posts if they haven't been edited. Small edits are ONLY for small things like removing a link that is probably spam, in which case you can edit the link and replace it with a comment like ** LINK REMOVED. NEW MEMBERS NOT ALLOWED TO POST LINKS **. This let's new members know they can't spam here. But we still allow links, just only from trusted members.


3. If you are in conflict with a member and they attack you personally, this would be against the rules and you can remove the post (and give explanation to the member). But you may have posted similar messages too. So if you remove their messages but not yours, this is a conflict of interest. If you are going to remove their posts and arguments, you would need to remove yours too. And in any case that posts are removed, you should give the member an explanation. It doesn't mean you can just remove all posts from both of you if an argument isn't going your way. It is very annoying to have posts removed for any reason. Consider it from their point of view. They take the time to type it all out, and suddenly its gone. Ideally though, the situation will be stopped before it spirals out of control.


4. If a post is not quite breaking the rules, but is irritating to you for some reason, this is not acceptable grounds to remove a post or thread. Keep in mind that whenever someone attacks me personally even if there is no justification, I will still personally leave the post, and respond to it in detail. It would be easier if I just removed it, but I have nothing to hide. I prefer transparency and will respond in detail, to inform readers of the truth. I will only remove posts that attack me if they are repetitive junk or posted purely with malicious intent.



EXAMPLES FOR MODERATORS AND APPROPRIATE ACTION

* A new member joins and starts spamming immediately, with obvious spam links.
ACTION: Remove the user's posts and topics, and ban the user. Do NOT remove the account.

* A long-term member gets into an argument and makes personal attacks, instead of giving constructive criticism
ACTION: Remove posts with personal attacks, with full post in tact, and PM the user explaining exactly why the post was removed. If the post contained valid and valuable information, then it is a better option to remove just the offending remarks without removing the post, then warn the member in private.

* Multiple long-term members are in a heated argument with lots of personal attacks.
ACTION: Edit or remove posts (depending on if posts had any valuable content or not), and privately warn both members.

* Any long-term member continues inappropriate behavior.
ACTION: Put the member on a moderated list, so their posts must be approved before being published. Inform them of what you have done and why (in private). This is much better than a temporary ban. You can remove the restriction when the member appears to have calmed down.

[Mortagon]

Dear Mr.Steve,

Peruse more new posts here and in VLS..Not everything of course, one must have a sense of mental hygiene.
In vlsroulette.com. has a theme of 2014, with the following pretentious and existentially title:

"Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human"
link:://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=21033.msg154212;topicseen#msg154212

Quote of the first post:

Practical Explanation ( For Example ) :- `1st of all can you tell me every single seconds detail from that time when you born ?? ( i need every seconds detail ?? that what- what you have thought and done on every single second )

can you tell me every single detail of your `1 cheapest Minute Or your whole hour, day, week, month, year or your whole life ??

if you are not able to tell me about this life then what proof do you have that you didn't forget your past ? and that you will not forget this present life in the future ?

that is Fact that Supreme Lord Krishna exists but we posses no such intelligence to understand him.
there is also next life. and i already proved you that no scientist, no politician, no so-called intelligent man in this world is able to understand this Truth. cuz they are imagining. and you cannot imagine what is god, who is god, what is after life etc.
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for example :Your father existed before your birth. you cannot say that before your birth your father don,t exists.

So you have to ask from mother, "Who is my father?" And if she says, "This gentleman is your father," then it is all right. It is easy.
Otherwise, if you makes research, "Who is my father?" go on searching for life; you'll never find your father.

( now maybe...maybe you will say that i will search my father from D.N.A, or i will prove it by photo's, or many other thing's which i will get from my mother and prove it that who is my Real father.{ So you have to believe the authority. who is that authority ? she is your mother. you cannot claim of any photo's, D.N.A or many other things without authority ( or ur mother ).

if you will show D.N.A, photo's, and many other proofs from other women then your mother. then what is use of those proofs ??} )

same you have to follow real authority. "Whatever You have spoken, I accept it," Then there is no difficulty. And You are accepted by Devala, Narada, Vyasa, and You are speaking Yourself, and later on, all the acaryas have accepted. Then I'll follow.
I'll have to follow great personalities. The same reason mother says, this gentleman is my father. That's all. Finish business. Where is the necessity of making research? All authorities accept Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. You accept it; then your searching after God is finished.

Why should you waste your time?
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all that is you need is to hear from authority ( same like mother ). and i heard this truth from authority " Srila Prabhupada " he is my spiritual master.
im not talking these all things from my own.
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in this world no `1 can be Peace full. this is all along Fact.

cuz we all are suffering in this world 4 Problems which are Disease, Old age, Death, and Birth after Birth.

tell me are you really happy ?? you can,t be happy if you will ignore these 4 main problem. then still you will be Forced by Nature.
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if you really want to be happy then follow these 6 Things which are No illicit sex, No gambling, No drugs ( No tea & coffee ), No meat-eating ( No onion & garlic's )

5th thing is whatever you eat `1st offer it to Supreme Lord Krishna. ( if you know it what is Guru parama-para then offer them food not direct Supreme Lord Krishna )

and 6th " Main Thing " is you have to Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare ".
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If your not able to follow these 4 things no illicit sex, no gambling, no drugs, no meat-eating then don,t worry but chanting of this holy name ( Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra ) is very-very and very important.

Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare " and be happy.

if you still don,t believe on me then chant any other name for 5 Min's and chant this holy name for 5 Min's and you will see effect. i promise you it works And chanting at least 16 rounds ( each round of 108 beads ) of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra daily.
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Here is no Question of Holy Books quotes, Personal Experiences, Faith or Belief. i accept that Sometimes Faith is also Blind. Here is already Practical explanation which already proved that every`1 else in this world is nothing more then Busy Foolish and totally idiot.
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Source(s):
every `1 is already Blind in this world and if you will follow another Blind then you both will fall in hole. so try to follow that person who have Spiritual Eyes who can Guide you on Actual Right Path. ( my Authority & Guide is my Spiritual Master " Srila Prabhupada " )
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if you want to see Actual Purpose of human life then see this link : ( : ( dot ) asitis ( dot ) com {Bookmark it })
read it complete. ( i promise only readers of this book that they { he/she } will get every single answer which they want to know about why im in this material world, who im, what will happen after this life, what is best thing which will make Human Life Perfect, and what is perfection of Human Life. ) purpose of human life is not to live like animal cuz every`1 at present time doing 4 thing which are sleeping, eating, sex & fear. purpose of human life is to become freed from Birth after birth, Old Age, Disease, and Death.

How sounds this "music" (sectarianism) in your ears? How it is related to the roulette?
So.Yesterday was published in this topic very valuable post,concerning exactly for discussed problem.
This entry after several hours was deleted, but the topic, not.How will would you comment this?

With respect
Mortagon

[Steve]

The reason is simple. You posted a link to websites. When relatively new members post links, the moderators are right to have itchy delete fingers. Otherwise every spammer thinks they can get away with spamming. But generally more established members can post links without a problem, as long as they arent dropping them in every second post like kav

To be honest the website you published looks a lot like selling religion. Maybe im ignorant. But if I posted pages to large passages of the bible, without contextual explanation of why I posted it, then I'd expect others would see it as spamming religion too.

It would have been much better if you posted in direct response to the thread's question instead of just posted links to large amounts of religious material.

[Mortagon]

Thank you for your comprehensive answer.

[PeaBea65]

To put a member on the moderation list:

   STEP 1. Click on the user
   STEP 2. Go to "Actions" and select "Issue a warning"
   STEP 3. You will see a little bar with + and -. Keep clicking the + until the bar turns orange, and the rating is at 35%.
   STEP 4. Enter a friendly notification message for the user that they will see when they are logged in.
   STEP 5. Click "issue warning".

LOL, now I do feel special.