KTF's cousin named WTF (if everyone agrees)

[Celticknits]

It was a loaded question on my part.

You ever hear of this.....the casino here CREATED an account for me without my permission. Can you top that?

Ken

-MrJ

No I can not top that one but I understand what Simon is talking about.
Did you talk to them to find out what was going on?

The thing is here where I live all of the casinos are government regulated and controlled whether they are directly run by the the Ontario Lottery and Gaming Commission or on indian reserves and they do share data base resources.

-Celtic

[denzie]

Had a bust today on airball :

4      23      9      19
25    5        35    25R
29    20     15     19
28    30     14     36
34    25R   13     9
7      12       9      10
8      7R     23R   5R
0      21     10      17
0R   27     15      18
29R 11     11R   10
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8      +3   

Nothing could save me.
Can't win them all

[Celticknits]

Had a bust today on airball :

4      23      9      19
25    5        35    25R
29    20     15     19
28    30     14     36
34    25R   13     9
7      12       9      10
8      7R     23R   5R
0      21     10      17
0R   27     15      18
29R 11     11R   10
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8      +3   

Nothing could save me.
Can't win them all

Are these all the numbers and are they numbers running top to bottom and left to right?

-Celtic

[MrJ]

Prior to having a card, anything over 3K, they have to fill out a paper at the cage. So now, they have ALL info on me...DOB, address etc.

I know a female dealer there quite well (wink wink), she told me I was on file. Meaning, when I bought in, they would put it in under my name. But how, I never told them my name (lol)

Sooo, I then decided to get a card. Got one and checked my points. HOLY S**T !!!!

Points galore....yes I did use them for many things. Point being, I never ASKED or gave permission for a card. I cant have it both ways? Complain about it AND enjoy the perks? I used a ton of points over a few months then went to customer service and told them to CANCEL my account. They wanted the card back but I lied and said I could not find it. I wrote down my current points and played roulette a couple more times. Put my card into a slot machine to check points and guess what?

They went up again. Meaning my request was ignored.

Ken

[denzie]

Top to bottom. Per column left to right.
4 is first spin
29 is tend spin
23 is eleventh spin
11 is twentieth  spin
Etc

I've got 20 numbers more to see if I would made it:

6 , 20 , 9 , 9 , 29 , 34 , 31 , 4 , 24 , 28 , 35 , 2 , 35 , 30 , 14 , 10 , 10 , 17 , 33 , 20

[Celticknits]

Prior to having a card, anything over 3K, they have to fill out a paper at the cage. So now, they have ALL info on me...DOB, address etc.

I know a female dealer there quite well (wink wink), she told me I was on file. Meaning, when I bought in, they would put it in under my name. But how, I never told them my name (lol)

Sooo, I then decided to get a card. Got one and checked my points. HOLY S**T !!!!

Points galore....yes I did use them for many things. Point being, I never ASKED or gave permission for a card. I cant have it both ways? Complain about it AND enjoy the perks? I used a ton of points over a few months then went to customer service and told them to CANCEL my account. They wanted the card back but I lied and said I could not find it. I wrote down my current points and played roulette a couple more times. Put my card into a slot machine to check points and guess what?

They went up again. Meaning my request was ignored.

Ken

-Ken

Scary stuff but not a lot you can do if you want to play.

The only thing I have right now going on is that they keep sending me free stage show tickets for an Indian casino 1 hour up the road from me.
As a matter of fact, I have free front row centre tickets for a Colin James concert next friday. So the wife and I will make a day of it.

-Celtic

[Celticknits]

Top to bottom. Per column left to right.
4 is first spin
29 is tend spin
23 is eleventh spin
11 is twelfth spin
Etc

I've got 20 numbers more to see if I would made it:

6 , 20 , 9 , 9 , 29 , 34 , 31 , 4 , 24 , 28 , 35 , 2 , 35 , 30 , 14 , 10 , 10 , 17 , 33 , 20

-Denzie

I am assuming this is a Euro wheel.
Thank you.

-Celtic

[denzie]

I made a mistake but modified it.
11 = twentieth spin instead of twelfth 

[MrJ]

Yeah, they keep track of "some" people regardless if they admit it or not. I did hear of one theory regarding pit bosses....they get bonuses (check) for signing up HIGHER STAKE members for a card even if you dont physically have the card (lol).

I guess normal rules of a sign up are out the window.

Ken

[Celticknits]

I made a mistake but modified it.
11 = twentieth spin instead of twelfth 

Got it - Thank you.
I am out for a Easter dinner but will get back to you.
Not that I can do any better than you but I can tell you what I would have done.

-Celtic

[SimonZed1]

Had a bust today on airball :

4      23      9      19
25    5        35    25R
29    20     15     19
28    30     14     36
34    25R   13     9
7      12       9      10
8      7R     23R   5R
0      21     10      17
0R   27     15      18
29R 11     11R   10
---------------------------------
8      +3   

Nothing could save me.
Can't win them all

Two repeats in the first 10 spins... Ouch!! I would simply have not touched that!!

Simon.

[Celticknits]

Top to bottom. Per column left to right.
4 is first spin
29 is tend spin
23 is eleventh spin
11 is twentieth  spin
Etc

I've got 20 numbers more to see if I would made it:

6 , 20 , 9 , 9 , 29 , 34 , 31 , 4 , 24 , 28 , 35 , 2 , 35 , 30 , 14 , 10 , 10 , 17 , 33 , 20

-Denzie

Easter dinner over so here we go.

I would have played this the same way on my airball and with those 2 repeats in the first 10 and a count of 8+3 after spin 20 I would have reset and eliminated the last 2 repeats.
As it turns out by just eliminating the latest repeat you actually have cleared 3.
So we restart at the old spin #8.
The first 10 will now give us 1 repeat and 9/10. So far so good.
What I need is a count of at least 8+3 in spins 11-20.
So on we go.
At old spin #24 we have our +4 for repeaters I have never seen +5 after spin #20 so one of the next two spins should be a repeat. Start betting on spin #25.
We lose on spin #25 and win on spin #26 which now gives us a 9+4 count---Great.
Continue on looking for 4 wins (based on the +4 count) but watch the count.
Remember I am looking for a profit of $80-$100
Our 3rd win is at spin #29 and the count is 10+7 so still good for AT LEAST one more repeat soon.
Fourth win is on next spin (#30)

We have now reached our profit goal so I would quit regardless of the fact that the count says there are still more to come. Remember---DON'T GET GREEDY!!!


I am surprised you had trouble with this one.

Here is the payout sheet

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DENZIE   27MAR16

S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 4
2 25
3 29
4 28
5 34
6 7 Reset to eliminate 2 repeats at original spin #15 and spin #17
7 8
8 0
9 0 R
10 29
11 23
12 5
13 20
14 30
15 25
16 12 Count 9/10 compared to 8/10 on original
17 7
18 21
19 27
20 11
21 9
22 35
23 15
24 14 At this point you have a +4 R count (never seen +5 after spin 20)
25 13 18 1 18 -18 -18
26 9 R 18 2 36 72 36 18
27 23 R 17 1 17 36 19 37
28 10 16 1 16 -16 21
29 15 R 16 2 32 72 40 61
30 11 R 15 1 15 36 21 82  --- Profit goal reached count is 10+6
31 19 14 1 14 -14 68
32 25 R 14 2 28 72 44 112
33 19 15 1 15 -15 97
34 36 15 2 30 -30 67
35 9 15 3 45 -45 22
36 10 15 4 60 -60 -38



[Celticknits]

Two repeats in the first 10 spins... Ouch!! I would simply have not touched that!!

Simon.

UPDATE:

We reset to start at old spin #7 not 8
Sorry about that.

-Celtic

[NextYear]

Thanks Celtic, you analyse is easy to follow!

[tuddilue]

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DENZIE   27MAR16

S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 4
2 25
3 29
4 28
5 34
6 7 Reset to eliminate 2 repeats at original spin #15 and spin #17
7 8
8 0
9 0 R
10 29
11 23
12 5
13 20
14 30
15 25
16 12 Count 9/10 compared to 8/10 on original
17 7
18 21
19 27
20 11
21 9
22 35
23 15
24 14 At this point you have a +4 R count (never seen +5 after spin 20)
25 13 18 1 18 -18 -18
26 9 R 18 2 36 72 36 18
27 23 R 17 1 17 36 19 37
28 10 16 1 16 -16 21
29 15 R 16 2 32 72 40 61
30 11 R 15 1 15 36 21 82  --- Profit goal reached count is 10+6
31 19 14 1 14 -14 68
32 25 R 14 2 28 72 44 112
33 19 15 1 15 -15 97
34 36 15 2 30 -30 67
35 9 15 3 45 -45 22
36 10 15 4 60 -60 -38



- Celticknits

Nice one how you handled the 2 repeaters. I thought you should do a reset after the repeaters 0 and 29 (#9 and #10).
That you handled the 25 and 7 instead was really nice!

I have one question for you:
The count after #20 is 9+4 (4 more unhit than average)
At #30 you say the count is 10+6(6 more unhit than average)

But in my head that can't be true. Because it has hit 3 repeaters and 1 unhit.
I can understand the 10 but how do you get +6? I get it to +2...

Thanks for a good explanation otherwise!