KTF's cousin named WTF (if everyone agrees)

[RouletteGhost]

Im learning quickly that for some reason airball has longer unique streaks....

Good for KTF

[denzie]

@ Noreilles. .. it isn't a winner on my sheets. 

@777 longest losing streak after spin 20 was 8. So spin 28 was my first repeater.
On rng spin 33 and another session at 35. So I stopped on rng 

I've been out my comfort zone bit to much too...so I start betting on spin 24 (if no virtual hit on 21-22-23). Didn't lost a session playing this way. Down side is the tracking.

About your -1000... I wouldn't do that. -400 is my stop loss. If you lose it then go get it back in next sessions. 

Also if I hit on my fourth bet only... (#27) then I stop the session. It's only tiny loss.

[Celticknits]

The longest I have had is only 5 from spin #21
but the what is the longest losingstreak people have had from spin 21-40? I had 9 (Airball)

Never had 20 unique in the first 20, Only 19 like the rest.

I would like to have some advise. Why dont you start betting on spin #21

--- Because the count is not good in spins 11-20 and you have to consider the first 10 spins also

dont we get a hit within the 3 first spins in 95% of the times?
--- A lot of the time this is correct but it is the other 5% that can give you headaches

(I only have 82 sessions to look back at - Airball and Live dealer)

I have been to progression 11 once but managed to recover to a small loss 45 units. after adding 5 numbers like Celtic thought me.
--- I take it you are talking about the countback that Notto  just explained in some detail


was down around 1000 units. was that foolish, Did I get lucky?
--- Need more details. Did you lose the 1000u or recover
Why don't you post the numbers for that session and we can look at them?
I am currently using a BR for WTF of $800 and this was based on over 100 live games that I have played at the B&M.
I have not seen a drawdown over $800.

apart from that I have been down around 500 units 2-3 times but recovered or took a small loss.
--- 500 drawdowns are not common but do and will happen


What does the experts say? stop at progression 7 or 8 as a rule and win it back on 5 other sessions? how often do you come to progression 7?
--- Stopping the progression at any level is a choice that you have to make. I myself do not stop if the count is favourable. Others will quit with as small a loss as possible.


After 82 sessions I cant complain looking at the win rate but lately the progressions are coming higher than the comfort zone.
and as discipline is not my strongest side it isnt always easy to know when to quit.

Do you play only the spins from 21-40? or to max 60 as Nottos sheet?
--- You have to take spins 1-10 into consideration also. I only play within the 37/38 spin cycle.

All decisions I make playing WTF are based on the count and past experience. Notto has posted many live spin numbers and you have to practice.


Notto

I see that 15 repeaters are the average from spin 11 to 40. But by playing WTF is that correct since R´s after spin 21 isnt always a R for the first 20 that we bet on WTF. looking at my sheets I would guess 11 or 12. then again I only have 82 sessions.

Thank you all for contributing to this knowledge much aprreciated.

See answers in red above
-Celtic

[denzie]

About those 20 unique. ..
Just was thinking start on spin 16 for 4 steps. On a loss were down -150. (On rng)

This I would recover in 2 wtf sessions (live or airball)

[nottophammer]

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[Celticknits]

-Notto

Thank you for the April 10 and 11 numbers.

I was afraid you would not be posting them anymore

-Celtic

[nottophammer]

Watching the trot/count won £45.00

Can you WTF

[RouletteGhost]

Watching the trot/count won £45.00

Can you WTF

I CANT WTF

i dont understand the count

[RouletteGhost]

did someone here say that they had 19 unique numbers in a row, no repeat?

[Noreilles]

did someone here say that they had 19 unique numbers in a row, no repeat?

Yes, it happened once (on airball), and another time I also got 18 live wheel (both times starting at 1, no previous repeats).

[RouletteGhost]

Yes, it happened once (on airball), and another time I also got 18 live wheel (both times starting at 1, no previous repeats).

ok thanks for the info

i am having my nightly Zumma study session and I am finding that if you are patient and wait for 10 consecutive spins of no repeat at all then bet those 10, the win typically comes fast

but knowing this info saves me time as i know the loss is right around the corner with 18 or 19 uniques in a row

[denzie]

For those who playing wtf....

Check your sheets pls. Going in on spin 24...did you got a bust this way?

I did some testing on rng yesterday to see if I could make it profit there. Coz it's a loooooot faster . So I've done 100 sessions again. I busted 2 . So 98 winning sessions.

Airball and Live dealer I've got 70 sessions all together.  70 wins. Of course here it takes bit to long to start. But better to wait and win , than to rush and lose.

About the count....it doesn't really matter a lot playing this way. First 10 spins I go to max 2 repeaters. Second 10 spins I go to max 4 repeaters. I bet all nrs in from spin 1-20. Start at betting after spin 23.

[nottophammer]

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[sniper]

For those who playing wtf....

Check your sheets pls. Going in on spin 24...did you got a bust this way?

I did some testing on rng yesterday to see if I could make it profit there. Coz it's a loooooot faster . So I've done 100 sessions again. I busted 2 . So 98 winning sessions.

Airball and Live dealer I've got 70 sessions all together.  70 wins. Of course here it takes bit to long to start. But better to wait and win , than to rush and lose.

About the count....it doesn't really matter a lot playing this way. First 10 spins I go to max 2 repeaters. Second 10 spins I go to max 4 repeaters. I bet all nrs in from spin 1-20. Start at betting after spin 23.

Hello Denzie,

Thanks for your post.

You bet all numbers from spin 1-20.

That means you don't add any more new numbers after spin 20 as mentioned in your earlier post?

Do you still wait for 3 new numbers to come in on spin 21,22 and 23 before you start betting?

Do you play beyond spin 37 for single zero or spin 38 for double zero?

Regards and best wishes.

[Celticknits]

For those who playing wtf....

Check your sheets pls. Going in on spin 24...did you got a bust this way?

I did some testing on rng yesterday to see if I could make it profit there. Coz it's a loooooot faster . So I've done 100 sessions again. I busted 2 . So 98 winning sessions.

Airball and Live dealer I've got 70 sessions all together.  70 wins. Of course here it takes bit to long to start. But better to wait and win , than to rush and lose.

About the count....it doesn't really matter a lot playing this way. First 10 spins I go to max 2 repeaters. Second 10 spins I go to max 4 repeaters. I bet all nrs in from spin 1-20. Start at betting after spin 23.

-Denzie

How would that have worked with Nottos 31 number challenge a couple of posts back.

-Celtic