KTF's cousin named WTF (if everyone agrees)

[denzie]

@Wally Gator. ..hope you don't mind I show how I would play it.

9     28     2R
16   32     5R
5     2        27
11   1       2R
0     15     22
17   7       36 R
19   18     26 R <------ stop
36   18R 
8      32R
26   13
-----   ----------
10    +3 <------- very good count so we start at spin 21

[tuddilue]

Here is todays expedition to the B&M.
This was the weirdest session I have ever played.
With a count of 9+4 at the start of the betting round and no repeats in the first 10 numbers you should expect quick wins and then quit but that was not what happened.
This acted more like Tuddilue's RNG sessions than airball.
There was a total of 4 triple hits and 3 of them were within the betting sequence. I have never seen this before.
I also noted that the casino has reduced the time to place bets from 50 seconds to 45.

BR $400
8 Wins
10 Losses
Profit $104

Thought I was gonna lose my first session betting repeats at spin #28.
What other system allows you to lose more than you win and still gives you a $80+ profit?

Yes the count of 9+4 is weird. I have also had problem with that count. Why? The feeling is that there are a lot of unhits hitting and it will continue and in the end the repeaters will come back. So the count is pointing that they will come, but you need to have the correct level of progression to handle it. So the starting point is even more important...

[denzie]

Yes the count of 9+4 is weird. I have also had problem with that count. Why?

Very strange cuz on my rng sessions 9+4 does very bad. A friend of mine also said this. Maybe better to avoid this. Bad vibes in that

[nottophammer]

But 9 +4 means you'd be gone with KTF

[NextYear]

Denzie, what are you doing on that avatar of yours?

(is it you on photo?)

[tuddilue]

Very strange cuz on my rng sessions 9+4 does very bad. A friend of mine also said this. Maybe better to avoid this. Bad vibes in that

Yes I get very careful when I get that number. Got to level 6 on the progression one time, but I recovered.
Yes avoid it is not a bad idé..

[tuddilue]

But 9 +4 means you'd be gone with KTF

Yes that is correct if you are playing KTF.  But if you are playing repeaters this is one of the best counts you can have after 11-20.

But my experience is that sometimes it is hard to play, as Celticknits gives an example of above. To many unhits are still hitting..

[nottophammer]

Wally Gator
Did you KTF?

[denzie]

Denzie, what are you doing on that avatar of yours?

(is it you on photo?)

It is. I'm mixing my sangria with a straw 

[Celticknits]

@Celtic ...

Ran across these numbers last night at B&M ... would be interested to know how you would have played them .. Double 00 wheel.

Many thanks .... Gator

-Gator

I hope this of use to you but remember this is how I would have played for repeatsand what I would have been thinking.

-Celtic

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WALLY GATOR 22MAR16 (00 Wheel)

S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 9
2 16
3 5
4 11
5 0
6 17
7 19
8 36
9 8
10 26                           10/10
11 28
12 32
13 2
14 1
15 15
16 7
17 18
18 18 R
19 32 R
20 13 Count is very good 8+3 ------Will go for 4 wins and then evaluate count
21 2 R 19 1 19 36 17 17
22 5 R 18 1 18 36 18 35
23 27 17 1 17 -17 18
24 2 17 2 34 -34 -16
25 22 17 3 51 -51 -67
26 36 R 17 4 68 144 76 9
27 26 R 16 3 48 108 60 69      ----------- New high reset progression to 1
                                                                                       Count is still high so go for 1 more win and checheck count again
28 29 15 1 15 -15 54
29 4 15 2 30 -30 24
30 16 R 15 3 45 108 63 87      ---------  New high reset progression to 1
                                                                           I would have quit at this point but consider these facts
                                                                           We still have 8 spins left in the cycle and the non-repeats are way above erage
                                                                           so there should be at least one more repeat to come soon.
                       This along with the repeat count still at +2 could justify continuing but this is the greed factor starting to kick in.
31 12 14 1 14 -14 73
32 7 R 14 2 28 72 44 117 --- Count is still reasonable but we are getting too close to the end of the spin cycle for my
                                                                           liking so had I continued this would be the point I would quit at.
33 23 13 3 39 -39 78
34 6 13 4 52 -52 26
35 3 13 5 65 -65 -39
36 13 R 13 6 78 216 138 99
37 3 12 5 60 -60 39
38 30 12 4 48 -48 -9


[Celticknits]

But 9 +4 means you'd be gone with KTF

Or run KTF and then wait for the count to be favourable and play the repeats also.

-Celtic

[Celticknits]

One thing I keep forgetting to bring up.

Several posts ago Rouletteghost mentioned just betting for repeats starting at spin #21 using the previous numbers.
I will admit that a lot of the time the betting starts at spin 21 but my decision is based on the count and not what usually happens.
I have tried it RG's way in the past and although not losing there were a couple of wild rides.

Just be forewarned with the thinking of always betting at spin 21.

-Celtic

[tuddilue]

Or run KTF and then wait for the count to be favourable and play the repeats also.

-Celtic

Yes I do so sometimes. I like KTF and I'm really thankful to @nottophammer

[Wally Gator]

Many thanks all for the examples and discussion.  I normally begin the sequence at spin 11.  On this one, the long string of repeats after spin 37 was a savior, but not fun.

@Notto, as for KTF, I've played with good results, but have had a few not so good sessions.  A recent session ended with a plus over 200 units, however the draw down was over 700 units... a bit steep.  Like you say, "Keep The Faith"

[RouletteGhost]

hey wally i had spoken to notto about this privately

but perhaps have a stoploss of -200

and a wingoal of 40

so when you hit -200 stop

the sessions of hitting +40 should well outweigh the -200?