KTF's cousin named WTF (if everyone agrees)

[SimonZed1]

Single player rng... I need time to place my bets. The start is easy. But when your at 3-4 units the click war begins. I'm just not fast enough 

I tried it on live dealers... Lol!! It was catastrophic!! I was at the 4th level and had to go back to 3 and didnt had the time to place half the bet on the table..... Thats why I switched to RNG... I dont trust RNG much but still, seems to work. Maybe all those certifications are accurate after all. Somebody got to write a clicker to Live tables. Something where we could put numbers to bet in a box and the bet size and then CLICK. I know there are a few roulette clickers on the net. I wonder if something like this exists.

Simon.

[Celticknits]

Hello SimonZed1..... a bit of FRIENDLY advice. I have tested many many methods over many many years. Anytime you change a rule (regardless of how small), you start fresh.

*ALL* past winning/losing results are gone. You are not plus or minus a thing. It would be unrealistic to keep past winning results IF you change any rules. Glad I could help.

Ken

How true this is.
If only people would listen.

-Celtic

[MrJ]

I tried it on live dealers... Lol!! It was catastrophic!! I was at the 4th level and had to go back to 3 and didnt had the time to place half the bet on the table..... Thats why I switched to RNG... I dont trust RNG much but still, seems to work. Maybe all those certifications are accurate after all. Somebody got to write a clicker to Live tables. Something where we could put numbers to bet in a box and the bet size and then CLICK. I know there are a few roulette clickers on the net. I wonder if something like this exists.

Simon.

...and this is what I have said many times, the pros and cons of roulette.

Not only are progressions a rat-race (imo), you need the TIME to place the bets even if the progression method was great (on an actual wheel) but we at least KNOW, the results will be accurate.

RNG/air ball.....okay, you now have the TIME NEEDED but are the results 100% legit?

Its a lose lose, again, in my opinion. Thats why I bet so few numbers, its IMPOSSIBLE to not have the proper time to lay down my chips AND I dont need to re-calculate anything because of NO progression used.

Ken

[denzie]

I think he means live ONLINE dealer. Coz at a real table it's no problem to put them down. Well not for me anyway.

Did 6 sessions on airball today. Won 483â,¬
Good enough for me. 

[RouletteGhost]

I think he means live ONLINE dealer. Coz at a real table it's no problem to put them down. Well not for me anyway.

Did 6 sessions on airball today. Won 483â,¬
Good enough for me. 

Good work. Love hearing that

[Tomla021]

ktf and repeaters are two of the best systems that I have ever  used----I keep on waiting for a loss

[SimonZed1]

ktf and repeaters are two of the best systems that I have ever  used----I keep on waiting for a loss

Just got a loss of -44 units.... But frankly.... Who cares!!! Just look at my success rate.... LOL! If I get one like that from time to time... I am prepared for them 

I will talk about it later to see what happened.

I think he means live ONLINE dealer. Coz at a real table it's no problem to put them down. Well not for me anyway.

Did 6 sessions on airball today. Won 483â,¬
Good enough for me. 

Yeah. ONLINE. I am too far from the closest B&M Casino.

Nice win!!

Simon.

[RouletteGhost]

ktf and repeaters are two of the best systems that I have ever  used----I keep on waiting for a loss

Ktf seems like the most solid method ever posted. Hammer is the man

[nottophammer]

Now Mr J puts a good point about time.
At the B+M get 1 minute, if you cant lay the chips in that time i'd suggest you practice laying. I use to lay across the streets but that takes to long, what i do now is go down column1 come back up column2 then back down column 3, after a few spins you'll remember where the #'s are anyway, just the odd glance you'll soon be whizzing em down.

So if its KTF as mentioned if lucky mrs hammer comes then we split the board, you see it works fine, if you have a couple of buds who'd work with ya,you could all have a dozen each, now you must be able to get them on.

[RouletteGhost]

Just got a loss of -44 units.... But frankly.... Who cares!!! Just look at my success rate.... LOL! If I get one like that from time to time... I am prepared for them 

I will talk about it later to see what happened.

Yeah. ONLINE. I am too far from the closest B&M Casino.

Nice win!!

Simon.

for the hell of it i went through a ton of old spins. whatever the previous 20 were, i bet those. all hits within 3 spins. interesting

[Celticknits]

Here is todays expedition to the B&M.
This was the weirdest session I have ever played.
With a count of 9+4 at the start of the betting round and no repeats in the first 10 numbers you should expect quick wins and then quit but that was not what happened.
This acted more like Tuddilue's RNG sessions than airball.
There was a total of 4 triple hits and 3 of them were within the betting sequence. I have never seen this before.
I also noted that the casino has reduced the time to place bets from 50 seconds to 45.

BR $400
8 Wins
10 Losses
Profit $104

Thought I was gonna lose my first session betting repeats at spin #28.
What other system allows you to lose more than you win and still gives you a $80+ profit?

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GEORGIAN DOWNS 21MAR16 (00 Wheel)

S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1  26
2    10
3   24
4   00
5   23
6  34
7   31
8    21
9  32
10    25                    10/10
11  17
12  15
13    27
14   35
15    18
16  12
17 28
18    10 R
19   22
20    1 Count here is 9+4 ----Fantastic
21    32 R 20 1 20 36 16 16
22    15 R 19 1 19 36 17 33
23  4 18 1 18 -18 15
24 29 18 2 36 -36 -21
25 32    18 3 54 -54 -75 -- A triple hit WTF â€" Count good so continue
26 2 18 4 72 -72 -147
27  16 18 5 90 -90 -237 -- Next bet will blow BR if it losesâ€"Count is still good so go for it
28  27 R 18 6 108 216 108 -129 -- Whew dodged that bullet.
29 28 R 17 5 85 180 95 -34
30 32 16 4 6 -64 -98 -- A 2nd triple hit but the count is still good at 13+3 so continue
31 1 R 16 5 80 180 100 2
32 6 15 4 60 -60 -58
33 34 R 15 5 75 180 105 47 -- New profit high so reset progression to 1
34 36 14 1 14 -14 33
35 27 14 2 28 -28 5 -- A 3rd triple hit---This is weird with a starting count of 9+4 but count still favours more
                                                                                   hits
36 18 R 14 3 42 108 66 71 -- Contemplated quitting but the count STILL favours more wins and risk is only $13 on
                                                                                   next        bet with progression reset to 1 on new high
37 11 13 1 13 -13 58 -- Risk is only $26 on next bet. Win or lose I will quit after next bet.
38 17 R 13 2 26 72 46 104 -- Finally reached session win goal and QUIT!!!
39 28 12 1 12 -12 92
40 3 12 1 12 -12 80


[Celticknits]

ktf and repeaters are two of the best systems that I have ever  used----I keep on waiting for a loss

My only issue with KTF was the size of some of the drawdowns.
On one session I was up to a $397 bet wich won and gave me a total of -$8.
I quit the session at that point and my overall KTF wins more than compensated for it but I still keep thinking about that -$8.

I have not lost any sessions yet betting repeats.

-Celtic

[SimonZed1]

Thought I was gonna lose my first session betting repeats at spin #28.

As a matter of fact!! The count was amazing!! No repeats spins 1-10 and 1 repeat in 11-20!!! Never saw that in my sessions!!

Nice profit! But you see why I would have stopped at spin 21. If you play with 1$ units, 17$ profits for 10 minutes play is well payed.... Thats a whooping 102$ an hour... Way more than an hour at my day job..... 

I would have stopped at spin 21 or as soon as in profit and started fresh with a new game.

Just my 2 cents.

Simon.

[Celticknits]

As a matter of fact!! The count was amazing!! No repeats spins 1-10 and 1 repeat in 11-20!!! Never saw that in my sessions!!

Nice profit! But you see why I would have stopped at spin 21. If you play with 1$ units, 17$ profits for 10 minutes play is well payed.... Thats a whooping 102$ an hour... Way more than an hour at my day job..... 

I would have stopped at spin 21 or as soon as in profit and started fresh with a new game.

Just my 2 cents.

Simon.

I understand and appreciate how you are playing repeats.

My parameters of playing repeats are based on experience in 109 games, including this one, and are as follows
BR $400-$450
Start betting when the count is favourable. --- What is favourable is a decision you have to make
$80-100 per session win - This is usually 3-4 spins and there again depends on the count

This session was so far off anything I have come up against, on my airball machine, I decided to just trust the count and once I got near the end of the spin cycle my bets were so low I just decided to keep going to the end of the spin cycle, but not beyond it,  as so many numbers were still due to hit. Fortunately it worked out right on the last spin of the cycle.

Looking over this session later what I should have done is to quit after my fifth win at spin #31.
I arrived at this conclusion based on 3 reasons:
1. The numbers are not acting as they normally do on this wheel - THIS IS THE MAIN REASON
2. There has already been 2 numbers hit 3 times - I guess this is part of reason 1 really
3. Based on experience, with a starting count of 9+4, and no repeats in the first 10 numbers, there is every reason to believe that you can get 5 wins very quickly. Granted I would have only made $2 but that is $2 more than I started with.

So I look at this as another thing to consider in future games and mark it down to another learning experience.

-Celtic

[Wally Gator]

@Celtic ...

Ran across these numbers last night at B&M ... would be interested to know how you would have played them .. Double 00 wheel.

Many thanks .... Gator

9
16
5
11
0
17
19
36
8
26
28
32
2
1
15
7
18
18 R
32 R
13
2 R
5 R
27
2 R
22
36 R
26 R
29
4
16 R
12
7 R
23
6
3
13 R
3 R
30
33 R
36 R
12 R
28 R
4 R
6 R
4 R
6 R
1 R
11 R
19 R
6 R
33 R
5 R
33 R
16 R
10
36 R
28 R
35
4 R
7 R
27 R
25
11 R
21
17 R
4 R
7 R
16 R
2 R
4 R
26 R
28 R
00
15 R