KTF's cousin named WTF (if everyone agrees)

[sniper]

Hello Tomla021

from Tomla021

just looking at my notes on games played--if i get to 14-15 spins and only have one repeat its a good spot to  start betting for repeats instead of waiting till 21... only betting 13-15 numbers and i get the hits--will keep an eye out to see if it holds up

Thanks for your post.

Do you use the same +1/-1 progression for this method?

Regards and best wishes

[SimonZed1]

Simon, do not accept bonuses!

No I never accept bonuses. But this place gives it to you whether you want it or not....

I switched places. I dont trust them anymore since they did that.

In the new place I made 50 units yesterday... 

[goldrosen]

Here is the way I see it: The law of the third state that in 37 spins, around 12 numbers should be repeats. After 20 spins, there are 17 spins to go. If there were 4 repeats in the first 20 spins, that means that there are 8 numbers left to repeat. Since there is 17 spins to go, then half of them should be repeats.

Hi SimonZed1,

May I know how did you get the calculation of "around 12 numbers should be repeats in 37 spins?".. that means there will be one repeat number in average on 3 spins? and how should I calculate the percentage of straight unhit num hit without any repeater? Like what is the probability of 10 straight unhit num will hit without any repeater and what for 20 straight? Is it possible that 37 unhit can all hit in 37 spins in real play? Thanks!

[Tomla021]

yes simon i use +1-1,,,,

[nottophammer]

Hi SimonZed1,

May I know how did you get the calculation of "around 12 numbers should be repeats in 37 spins?".. that means there will be one repeat number in average on 3 spins? and how should I calculate the percentage of straight unhit num hit without any repeater? Like what is the probability of 10 straight unhit num will hit without any repeater and what for 20 straight? Is it possible that 37 unhit can all hit in 37 spins in real play? Thanks!

look here link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=14735.180

[goldrosen]

look here link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=14735.180

Thank you Nottophammer! You're so helpful n supportive!
That is so useful for me, thanks again!

[Tomla021]

I wonder what Winkel thinks about these two systems?

[Celticknits]

Played some sessions today. This one was really tough to beat but i did it.

How would you play this?

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1 11
2 10
3 1
4 3
5 32
6 33
7 9
8 35
9 5
10 1 R
11 5 R
12 20
13 7
14 4
15 30
16 9 R
17 14
18 22
19 3 R
20 31
21 18
22 3 R
23 8
24 16
25 27
26 21
27 7 R
28 0
29 26
30 30 R
31 2
32 16 R
33 28
34 29
35 31 R
36 20 R
37 16 R
38 29 R
39 25
40 35 R
41 3 R
42 31 R
43 11 R


-RayManZ

I would have gotten back to you earlier but we had a bad ice storm Thursday and lost power and internet until 2 hours ago.

This is how I would have played it.
I assumed this was a Euro wheel and I covered the 0
I did not like the count after spin 20 so I reset to eliminate 2 repeats.
New count after spin #19 is 8+4 all good --- I will either lose the next spin giving me an even better count of 9+4 or win the next spin giving me a count of 8+3 which I would have started betting at anyways.

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RayManZ   25MAR16

S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 11
2 10
3 1
4 3
5 32
6 33
7 9 RESET
1 35
2 5
3 1
4 5 R
5 20
6 7
7 4
8 30
9 9
10 14 Count is 9/10
11 22
12 3
13 31
14 18
15 3 R
16 8
17 16
18 27
19 21 Count after this spin is 8+4 so bet starting next spin
20 7 R 18 1 18 36 18 18
21 0 R 17 1 17 36 19 37
22 26 16 1 16 -16 21
23 30 R 16 2 32 72 40 61
24 2 15 1 15 -15 46
25 16 R 15 2 30 72 42 88   --- QUIT (Win/Stop of $80-$100 reached)
26 28 14 1 14 -14 74
27 29 14 2 28 -28 46
28 31 R 14 3 42 108 66 112
29 20 R 13 2 26 72 46 158
30 16 12 1 12 -12 146
31 29 12 2 24 -24 122
32 25 12 3 36 -36 86
33 35 R 12 4 48 144 96 182
34 3 R 11 3 33 108 75 257
35 31 10 2 20 -20 237
36 11 10 3 30 -30 207



[Celticknits]

I wonder what Winkel thinks about these two systems?

-Tomla

I often wondered the same thing.
Pm'd him in the beginning when I started betting repeats but never heard back from him.
Not a surprise after all the flack he received re. G.U.T.
Continued working with Notto and it is where it is at today, which is all good.
Still no losses betting repeats and this scares me somewhat.

Patience, Discipline and do not get greedy are the key things to remember.
If the count is no good I reset, if still bad reset again, if still bad probably time for a coffee and come back later or just quit for the day.

-Celtic

[Celticknits]

Simon, do not accept bonuses!

And DO NOT use a players card if playing in a B&M.

-Celtic

[Tomla021]

everything looks good just trying to finalize the end game---when to get out

[Celticknits]

everything looks good just trying to finalize the end game---when to get out

-Tomla

3 - 4 wins usually does it.
If I win three in a row I will quit right then and there, have a coffee, go for a walk and come back in 1/2 hour or so.

Oh and one more thing, DO NOT go past a 37/38 spin cycle.

-Celtic

[MrJ]

And DO NOT use a players card if playing in a B&M.

-Celtic

Why no players card?

Ken

[Celticknits]

Why no players card?

Ken

-MrJ

I just want to make it as hard as possible for the casino to track me while I am there.

I realize that with the eye in the sky and facial recognition they can find out who I am and what I am doing in the casino anyways but they have to put an effort out for that.
I know they do this for a fact because I had one occasion where the casino called me at home to ask me about my betting habits at the roulette wheel and at that time I did not use a players card, although I did sign up and get one many years ago. This was about about a month and a half ago when I was up about 5K.

Big Brother is watching you when you at the casino.

-Celtic

[MrJ]

-MrJ

I just want to make it as hard as possible for the casino to track me while I am there.

I realize that with the eye in the sky and facial recognition they can find out who I am and what I am doing in the casino anyways but they have to put an effort out for that.
I know this for a fact because I had one occasion where the casino called me at home to ask me about my betting habits at the roulette wheel and at that time I did not use a players card, although I did sign up and get one many years ago.

Big Brother is watching you when you at the casino.

-Celtic

It was a loaded question on my part.

You ever hear of this.....the casino here CREATED an account for me without my permission. Can you top that?

Ken