KTF's cousin named WTF (if everyone agrees)

[Tomla021]

Simon
1-10 no repeats
11-20 3-4 repeats only
play the uniques --wouldnt that be 16 or 17 numbers and not 11-13 numbers???

[NextYear]

Simon
1-10 no repeats
11-20 3-4 repeats only
play the uniques --wouldnt that be 16 or 17 numbers and not 11-13 numbers???

I think that he takes off both repeaters.
So, if you have 4 repeaters, it is 8 numbers less = 12!

[Celticknits]

I called my method FTT (F*ck the Trot!)

I just cant seem to understand it and I still wonder what it’s importance is in the repeats betting method.

The way I do it is pretty simple. I check the last 10 spins. There must be NO repeats. I wait for the next 10 spins. There MUST BE between 3-4 repeats. NO MORE, NO LESS. (Why? Beacose I have noticed in my sessions that less than that, there is a tendency to have less repeats in 21-40. More than that, same thing.)

At bet 21, I start betting all numbers from spins 1 to 20 that have come up once. Usually around 10-13 numbers. I bet with +1 progression. I stop at higher high and reset. I go for 1 win only. I then use the last 10 numbers to restart a new session if there are no repeats.

Thats is.

I try to play only on Betsoft (link:://:.betsoft.com/) roulette software only. Why? Beacose all the certification of their RNG is on their web site and their registration too (link:://:.betsoft.com/application/files/7814/3808/5190/Digital_Software_Limited_RNG__Certificate.pdf) .

Also, as I uderstand it, when you play a Betsoft roulette on a Online Casino, the software you are downloading is from the Betsoft site and it is running on their server. Not the Casino`s.

I want to try a Provably Fair roulette table soon.

The site with the 40 seconds roulette table is link:s://fortunejack.com

It`s cryptocurrencies only though. It’s ok with me as I only do bitcoins gaming.

Simon.

-Simon

So to summarize you are only playing the uniques in the first 20 spins and then only looking for one win?

What do you do if spins 21-24 are all un-hit numbers and then spin 25 is a repeat win?
You would have not got back to a + total.

If you are only going for 1 win I guess I don't have to ask if you are taking down the hit repeats ... or do I?

Also, are you covereing the 0 or 00 if they are not in the initial sequence of numbers?

-Celtic

[nottophammer]

Celts have a look at these KTF luv it, made £13 for .25p units

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Lad san 29.3.16
1 1
2 20
3 11
4 25
5 9
6 27
7 32
8 25
9 22
10 34
11 35
12 26
13 6
14 25
15 29
16 23
17 29
18 13
19 30
20 21
21 7
22 19
23 13
24 13
25 22
26 2
27 20
28 0
29 33
30 15
31 16
32 8
33 26
34 9
35 25
36 1
37 17
38 26
39 29
40 36


Oh yeah RNG

[Celticknits]

Celts have a look at these KTF luv it, made £13 for .25p units

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Lad san 29.3.16
1 1
2 20
3 11
4 25
5 9
6 27
7 32
8 25
9 22
10 34
11 35
12 26
13 6
14 25
15 29
16 23
17 29
18 13
19 30
20 21
21 7
22 19
23 13
24 13
25 22
26 2
27 20
28 0
29 33
30 15
31 16
32 8
33 26
34 9
35 25
36 1
37 17
38 26
39 29
40 36


Oh yeah RNG

-Notto

Love that triple in the first 20.

Here is the payout sheet for repeats as I would have played it

-Celtic

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LAD san   29MAR16

S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 1
2 20
3 11
4 25 X
5 9
6 27
7 32
8 25 R
9 22
10 34 9/10
11 35
12 26
13 6
14 25 R
15 29
16 23
17 29 R
18 13
19 30
20 21 8 +3
21 7
22 19
23 13 R 19 1 19 36 17 17
24 13 18 1 18 -18 -1
25 22 R 18 2 36 72 36 35
26 2 17 1 17 -17 18
27 20 R 17 2 34 72 38 56
28 0 R 16 1 16 36 20 76   --- Would have quit here
29 33 15 1 15 -15 61
30 15 15 2 30 -30 31
31 16 15 3 45 -45 -14
32 8 15 4 60 -60 -74
33 26 R 15 5 75 180 105 31
34 9 R 14 4 56 144 88 119
35 25 13 1 13 -13 106
36 1 R 13 2 26 72 46 152
37 17 12 1 12 -12 140
38 26 12 2 24 -24 116
39 29 R 12 3 36 108 72 188
40 36 11 1 11 -11 177



[SimonZed1]

I called my method FTT (F*ck the Trot!)
He he funny name. Yah why not!?

At bet 21, I start betting all numbers from spins 1 to 20 that have come up once. Usually around 10-13 numbers. I bet with +1 progression. I stop at higher high and reset. I go for 1 win only. I then use the last 10 numbers to restart a new session if there are no repeats.
I see that you have developed your method. One question what are you doing with the numbers that has hit more than ones? Are you betting them as well?

Every numbers that have hit twice, three or four or more times during the 20st spins are removed. So, let's say that at spins 3,7 and 13 the number 2 gets out, they are removed all three. So that leaves us with 17 numbers to bet (if there are no other repeaters... of course...)

Simon
1-10 no repeats
11-20 3-4 repeats only
play the uniques --wouldnt that be 16 or 17 numbers and not 11-13 numbers???

I think that he takes off both repeaters.
So, if you have 4 repeaters, it is 8 numbers less = 12!

Yep…. Thats it….

Early in this thread, or the KTF thread, Denzie mentioned that when he gets a good count he waits for a repeat to hit before he actually starts to bet so I tried it and it seems to work out most of the time. Adding the waiting for 2 more non-hits was just something that I came up with that seems to enhance it. This seems to cut down on some initial drawdowns in spins 21-30 and had I started betting at spin #21 I still would have won but those non-hits just meant that you needed a larger BR to ride it out until the repeats came.

That is very interesting. I had started a similar way but stopped, and frankly… I dont know why… My first way of playing was the same as now but with waiting for a repeat after spin 20 before starting to bet. I found looking at past games that repeats tends to come clustered in spins 21-40.

So to summarize you are only playing the uniques in the first 20 spins and then only looking for one win?

What do you do if spins 21-24 are all un-hit numbers and then spin 25 is a repeat win?
You would have not got back to a + total.

Oh, sorry about that…. I go +1/-1 until a higher high. So if it happens in at, let's say, spin 21, then yes. I go for one win and I restart a new session. In one of the last game I played, I got 10 singles in 1-10 and 8 singles in 11-20. So that makes for 16 numbers to bet on. I got to level +4, which I won (I was starting to sweat…), But I was still under my initial start. So the next bet was for 15 numbers (the original ones minus the last repeater) at level +3 that I won for a wooping +47 units!!

If you are only going for 1 win I guess I don't have to ask if you are taking down the hit repeats ... or do I?

Actually you do!! Yes! I take down the hit repeat and continue with the +1/-1 until I am at a higher high if it has not happened with the first bets.

Also, are you covereing the 0 or 00 if they are not in the initial sequence of numbers?

No. 0 and 00 are numbers juste like all the other numbers. If they are in spins 1-20 I will bet them, like any other numbers. In this method they are no different than covering the 1, or the 23, or the 15 if they were not in the 1-20 spins. They are just other numbers like all the other numbers.


I’m having a blast with you guys!! Thanks for participating in all of this!! This is really fun!!

[Celticknits]

Every numbers that have hit twice, three or four or more times during the 20st spins are removed. So, let's say that at spins 3,7 and 13 the number 2 gets out, they are removed all three. So that leaves us with 17 numbers to bet (if there are no other repeaters... of course...)

Yep…. Thats it….

That is very interesting. I had started a similar way but stopped, and frankly… I dont know why… My first way of playing was the same as now but with waiting for a repeat after spin 20 before starting to bet. I found looking at past games that repeats tends to come clustered in spins 21-40.

Oh, sorry about that…. I go +1/-1 until a higher high. In one of the last game I played, I got 10 singles in 1-10 and 8 singles in 11-20. So that makes for 16 numbers to bet on. I got to level +4, which I won (I was starting to sweat…), But I was still under my initial start. So the next bet was for 15 numbers (the original ones minus the last repeater) at level +3 that I won for a wooping +47 units!!

Actually you do!! Yes! I take down the hit repeat and continue with the +1/-1 until I am at a higher high.

No. 0 and 00 are numbers juste like all the other numbers. If they are in spins 1-20 I will bet them, like any other numbers. In this method they are no different than covering the 1, or the 23, or the 15 if they were not in the 1-20 spins. They are just other numbers like all the other numbers.


I’m having a blast with you guys!! Thanks for participating in all of this!! This is really fun!!

-Simon

Thank you for clearing up these questions.

-Celtic

[SimonZed1]

-Simon

Thank you for clearing up these questions.

-Celtic

No prob!! Let me know if you see something in this and if we could make it into something even better!

[shuttle]

Hi Simon

If a number that appears in the first 10 then appears twice in the next 10 is that counted as 1 repeat or 2?

[777vic777]

Hi Denzie,

I have been trying to play this at a live casino but sometimes i have been short of time. I quit playing it on RNG since I have been sessioned out too many times...

My question is on what table are you playing since you also are using unibet? and have you also been sessioned out without a reason...

To Notto and Celtic and the rest who are testing it: Thank you for a great topic and system. Im hoping to enjoy the same success as you.

[denzie]

What is sessioned out ?

[777vic777]

When playing somethimes you get an error saying session expired. Then you have to reload the game/page and start over again. only managed to finish 9 games all in profit but got throughen out 4 times.

[ignatus]

If you're getting in a hole, it's very hard to recover with a doubledozen bet OR 27 numbers bet with a +1/-1 progression, we all know that. and once you're getting in such a hole, all previous winnings will be lost, (depending on what stoploss you're using)

[Celticknits]

If you're getting in a hole, it's very hard to recover with a doubledozen bet OR 27 numbers bet with a +1/-1 progression, we all know that. and once you're getting in such a hole, all previous winnings will be lost, (depending on what stoploss you're using)

-ignatus

Nobody here is betting 27 numbers.
15-18 numbers would be the norm.
27 numbers sounds like KTF and is not what this thread is about.

Let me ask you a question --- If you could play a strategy, within a single 37 spin cycle, that shows a profit when you only Win 5 times and Lose 9 times, within 14 betting spins, using a +1/-1 progression, wouldn't it be worthwhile checking out?

-Celtic

[SimonZed1]

When playing somethimes you get an error saying session expired. Then you have to reload the game/page and start over again. only managed to finish 9 games all in profit but got throughen out 4 times.

I have played at a lot of casinos online and never got that. Go play at another Casino. There are so much out there.....

Simon,