KTF's cousin named WTF (if everyone agrees)

[Celticknits]

Bravo Celtic! and thanks a lot for taking the time to explain and share.

-777

You are welcome.

-Celtic

[Celticknits]

All this is on page 12.
i've marked the 14th non-hit as 15,but you see the trot count by countback.
Like Celtic said the 25th spin is of great interest, why, because at 25th you have the >1x's reading 4, or 21 non-hit have come.
Now Winkel gave info for 37th as possible read of 13/14-13/14-09/10, so if you've read your GUT you would know the only way the >1x's will get to 9/10 is by 1x's repeating.

you would have started betting for the 1x's to repeat but the trot/count stays fast, you get the repeat #18 on the 25th spin. Now you know what the >1x's need its the 1x's to repeat, so you need to include all 1x's, take a look, if you carried on betting the 16 non-hits to repeat,trouble 33and 29 are not yours.
At 30th spin itsstill high non-hits kept hitting. 14+4 is non-hits to fast they need to slow, so the 23,1x's are your bet.
How  do you know the 23,1x's on the KTF sheet you would see only 23 boxes are marked,for some reason i circled of the 7, but they would be the #'s to bet.
As Celtic showed you would make the win target.

-Notto

Sorry to put you through that but I knew I could not explain this as well as you.

-Celtic

[SimonZed1]

Well, the bankroll just got killed. Got 10 spins without a repeater between spins 30 and 39 on RNG.... 

I wonder If i would have got the same results on a live wheel....

RIP Bankroll.... At least, it was not too big. Should not have too much trouble getting it back. Will have to test and tweak more before starting again with real money.

Wish me luck... 

Simon.

[Celticknits]

Well, the bankroll just got killed. Got 10 spins without a repeater between spins 30 and 39 on RNG.... 

I wonder If i would have got the same results on a live wheel....

RIP Bankroll.... At least, it was not too big. Should not have too much trouble getting it back. Will have to test and tweak more before starting again with real money.

Wish me luck... 

Simon.

Can you give us the numbers?

-Celtic

[Celticknits]

Just got back from the local B&M and the bastards have removed the old large single Interblock airball wheel and are installing two small Bally mechanical wheels. Each one is connected to five termainals. Could not get the model number because I was escorted out of the area by security before I could get it.  I plan on trying again tomorrow.
The casino manager made a strange comment to me that I found intriguing--- He told me "I only have myself to blame for the wheel change".

Could he be referring to the approx $13k profit that I took from the old machine since January 2016???

This is getting weird.

-Celtic

[RouletteGhost]

Just got back from the local B&M and the bastards have removed the old large single Interblock airball wheel and are installing two small Bally mechanical wheels. Each one is connected to five termainals. Could not get the model number because I was escorted out of the area by security before I could get it.  I plan on trying again tomorrow.
The casino manager made a strange comment to me that I found intriguing--- He told me "I only have myself to blame for the wheel change".

Could he be referring to the approx $13k profit that I took from the old machine since January 2016???

This is getting weird.

-Celtic

13k between ktf and ktfs cousin on airball?

Terrific work

[Celticknits]

13k between ktf and ktfs cousin on airball?

Terrific work

-RG

No.

Mostly from betting repeats.
I have only played KTF and Repeats with real money.

The only so called testing that I do is with Nottos Jackpot Joy numbers that he posts every day in the KTF thread and I run every single one he posts. Todays numbers were great but to win $97 you had better understand the countback.

As has been said time and again Practice Practice Practice.
Nottos numbers are airball.

I will say one thing if I have to play RNG that may possibly be the end of my roulette playing days.

-Celtic

[tuddilue]

-RG

No.

Mostly from betting repeats.
I have only played KTF and Repeats with real money.

The only so called testing that I do is with Nottos Jackpot Joy numbers that he posts every day in the KTF thread and I run every single one he posts. Todays numbers were great but to win $97 you had better understand the countback.

As has been said time and again Practice Practice Practice.
Nottos numbers are airball.

I will say one thing if I have to play RNG that may possibly be the end of my roulette playing days.

-Celtic

Great work Celticknits!

No I don't think your roulette days will be over. The RNG is a bit different but not so much different. I have mostly played repeaters on RNG and has so far only minor drawback.  So don't worry!

Tuddilue

[nottophammer]

Todays #'s

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jackpotjoy 5.4.16
1 28
2 7
3 28
4 9
5 32
6 7
7 25
8 29
9 4
10 28
11 19
12 3
13 31
14 29
15 7
16 13
17 24
18 0
19 10
20 20
21 4
22 18
23 1
24 28
25 24
26 34
27 20
28 18
29 20
30 23
31 22
32 31
33 35
34 30
35 1
36 11
37 10
38 11
39 31
40 36
41 7
42 19
43 35
44 6
45 21
46 20
47 19
48 7
49 36
50 12
51 16
52 22
53 13
54 2
55 10
56 3
57 8
58 34
59 30
60 25

61 3
62 13
63 9
64 35
65 9
66 17
67 2
68 5
69 23
70 7
71 4
72 28
73 5
74 18
75 16
76 17


[sniper]

Just got back from the local B&M and the bastards have removed the old large single Interblock airball wheel and are installing two small Bally mechanical wheels. Each one is connected to five termainals. Could not get the model number because I was escorted out of the area by security before I could get it.  I plan on trying again tomorrow.
The casino manager made a strange comment to me that I found intriguing--- He told me "I only have myself to blame for the wheel change".

Could he be referring to the approx $13k profit that I took from the old machine since January 2016???

This is getting weird.

-Celtic

Hello Celtic,

Congratulation on your winnings.

You did very well.

Regards and best wishes

[RouletteGhost]

Theres some good stuff in here

Im quickly learning this count

When to bet repeaters and when not to

The beauty is once you get the hang of it a losing session is easily recovered

[NextYear]

"I only have myself to blame for the wheel change".

Bravo Celtic, most encouraging words, music to my ears!

[SimonZed1]

Can you give us the numbers?

-Celtic

So, here are the numbers that killed my bankroll….

9
26
11
7
35
4
25
20
6
19

10 first spins without any repeats! Everything is looking good!

15
25 R
10
10 R
19 R
21
32
36

10 spins with 3 repeats only! Nice!! Will start after 1st repeat in 21-30

31
31
28
3
3 R - Start
24 +1
29 +2
5 +3
4 R +4 WON
22 +1   -- THIS IS WHERE ALL HELL WENT LOOSE….

Since I had only 2 repeats in spins 11-20 I told myself that there were more repeats that had to come but…. I was wrong…

33 +2
28 +3
17 +4
17 +5
33 +6
18 +7
25 +8
27 +9
24 +10 DEAD!!!

No repeats in 31-39 from first 18 one hit only….!!

Well, I guess I will really have to understand the trot…. :-P

[Celticknits]

Bravo Celtic, most encouraging words, music to my ears!

I am wondering if it is still airball and what the time limit will be to place bets.
Sometimes I have situations where I have to place 23 bets.
The installation crew would not provide any information and that is when the casino manager showed up with security and escorted me away.
I am just afraid that they will have parameters set that make playing WTF impossible.

I'd take a picture of the setup but by the time I get from the front door of the casino to the roulette area there are already floor personnel hovering around me. I have already reduced my playing to 2-3 times per week but that has not altered their following me around when I go.

Like I said it is getting weird.

-Celtic

[SimonZed1]

I am wondering if it is still airball and what the time limit will be to place bets.
Sometimes I have situations where I have to place 23 bets.
The installation crew would not provide any information and that is when the casino manager showed up with security and escorted me away.
I am just afraid that they will have parameters set that make playing WTF impossible.

I'd take a picture of the setup but by the time I get from the front door of the casino to the roulette area there are already floor personnel hovering around me. I have already reduced my playing to 2-3 times per week but that has not altered their following me around when I go.

Like I said it is getting weird.

-Celtic

Simon.