KTF's cousin named WTF (if everyone agrees)

[tuddilue]

If you got 3 repeats in spin 11 till 20 you got a count of +2
If there are 4 repeats from spin 21 till 30 you got a count of +4

My mistake. I meant +3


We got a +2 and a +1 so that makes +3

Yes that is correct.

I just count backwards because I want to know how many repeaters are left.

For me it is easier to see 12 than +3 but it is the same thing...

[RouletteGhost]

Okay RG i've marked of your 10#'s on the sheet as you can see, also tomorrows Jackpot 13.4.16.
When i have 27 non-hit left on tomorrows #'s , we'll see how your random #'s do against the the KTF #'s.

[denzie]

Thanks for the replies, ideas and for sharing.

Denzie:

You would have stopped after your 3rd hit(spin#29) because of 18 units profit. with a win goal of 80-100 units and a count still good why wouldnt you continue? Im just asking this question to understand how you are thinking.

What is the name of the RNG game you are playing ?

I go for 3 or 4 hits max.
All NetEnt rng for me...can click without betting and they have the fast spins.

[denzie]

One more thing. ...I use 3 br . Never got 3 busts. And if you would have a bust just relax and stay confident. It can happen. Don't start to doubt your decision.

On a bad count we would say...aaah damn it's coz the count.

On a good count we would think 
And we would try a new way.

So relax coz it wins more then it loses...

Ooh and that devilish house edge...I'm not really worried about it. The weak human mind and self control in this game is much more dangerous in my opinion.

[tuddilue]

..

For mm, I only consider the losses. For every 3 losses accumulated, I increase bet by 1 unit.

I do not reduce the bet on a win, I just maintain the the bet .

I only stop at spin 40 or when target achieved before spin 40.

Please advise.

Regards and best wishes.

Hi, I have started to use another progression. I do like this:
Start after spin 25 when count is good.
Bet the first 18 hits.
After 2 losses increase with 1 unit. Stay betting on this level.
When winning go back to 1 unit when in plus or even.
Win goal 18, 36 or 54.

This works really well so far. What do you think?

[tuddilue]

One more thing. ...I use 3 br . Never got 3 busts. And if you would have a bust just relax and stay confident. It can happen. Don't start to doubt your decision.

On a bad count we would say...aaah damn it's coz the count.

On a good count we would think 
And we would try a new way.

So relax coz it wins more then it loses...

Ooh and that devilish house edge...I'm not really worried about it. The weak human mind and self control in this game is much more dangerous in my opinion.

The same for me I also uses 3 bankrolls. You bust sometimes but it is really rare. With my new count and progression I have not busted yet. But you never know when it comes 

[sniper]

Hi, I have started to use another progression. I do like this:
Start after spin 25 when count is good.
Bet the first 18 hits.
After 2 losses increase with 1 unit. Stay betting on this level.
When winning go back to 1 unit when in plus or even.
Win goal 18, 36 or 54.

This works really well so far. What do you think?

Hello Tuddilue,

I like your progression. It's better than the one I am using now.

Your progression prevent you from going too deep when the bad and unavoidable happen.

Betting just the first 18 numbers is a wise move.

I believe you are heading toward a better direction.

I will test further your method of play and will post more good news in the near term.

Regards and best wishes.

[tuddilue]

Hello Tuddilue,

I like your progression. It's better than the one I am using now.

Your progression prevent you from going too deep when the bad and unavoidable happen.

Betting just the first 18 numbers is a wise move.

I believe you are heading toward a better direction.

I will test further your method of play and will post more good news in the near term.

Regards and best wishes.

Good!
It will be really interesting to see how it goes for you. I will also of course report back how this goes!
Regards and best wishes!

[tuddilue]

Hi, I have started to use another progression. I do like this:
Start after spin 25 when count is good.
Bet the first 18 hits.
After 2 losses increase with 1 unit. Stay betting on this level.
When winning go back to 1 unit when in plus or even.
Win goal 18, 36 or 54.

This works really well so far. What do you think?

Small progression makes a small bankroll so to start with I will use 144 units (4x36)...

[nottophammer]

forgot some like the numbers

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jackpot247 13.4.16
1 11
2 9
3 29
4 28
5 5
6 17
7 12
8 7
9 32
10 20
11 20
12 10
13 22
14 9
15 17
16 4
17 0
18 21
19 9
20 13
21 4
22 22
23 36
24 4
25 18
26 7
27 14
28 34
29 18
30 0
31 6
32 9
33 18
34 33
35 30
36 21
37 24
38 11
39 23
40 36
41 31
42 17
43 21
44 14
45 32
46 2
47 29
48 33
49 26
50 25
51 4
52 8
53 17
54 0
55 1
56 29
57 5
58 12
59 35
60 15

61 2
62 7
63 27
64 22
65 19
66 9
67 5
68 4
69 30
70 4
71 8
72 2
73 35


[RouletteGhost]

forgot some like the numbers

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jackpot247 13.4.16
1 11
2 9
3 29
4 28
5 5
6 17
7 12
8 7
9 32
10 20
11 20
12 10
13 22
14 9
15 17
16 4
17 0
18 21
19 9
20 13
21 4
22 22
23 36
24 4
25 18
26 7
27 14
28 34
29 18
30 0
31 6
32 9
33 18
34 33
35 30
36 21
37 24
38 11
39 23
40 36
41 31
42 17
43 21
44 14
45 32
46 2
47 29
48 33
49 26
50 25
51 4
52 8
53 17
54 0
55 1
56 29
57 5
58 12
59 35
60 15

61 2
62 7
63 27
64 22
65 19
66 9
67 5
68 4
69 30
70 4
71 8
72 2
73 35


You have a lot of lurkers that would be dissapointed if you stopped.

[Celticknits]

For anyone interested below is a payout  sheet for some numbers from an experiment that RG was doing with Notto over on the KTF thread.
I think RG initially said that the numbers were for a 00 wheel but the outcome would still have been the same just a slightly smaller profit because I would cover the 0 and 00.

Remember this represents play using strictly the count to help in any decision making.
BR $800 and profit goal of $80 - $100

-Celtic

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RG's RANDOM #S FOR NOTTO 13Apr16
WTF REPEATS USING THE COUNT
S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 3
2 7
3 11
4 13
5 18
6 22
7 23
8 27
9 31
10 35
11 20
12 10
13 22 R
14 9
15 17
16 4 15 1 15 -15 -15
17 0 R 15 2 30 72 42 27
18 21 14 1 14 -14 13
19 9 R 14 2 28 72 44 57
20 13 R 13 1 13 36 23 80      ---   QUIT Count is still not bad  at 6+1 and more repeats will come
21 4 12 1 12 -12 68                   but when and which numbers will repeat
22 22 R 12 2 24 72 48 116
23 36 11 1 11 -11 105
24 4 11 2 22 -22 83
25 18 R 11 3 33 108 75 158
26 7 R 10 2 20 72 52 210
27 14 9 1 9 -9 201
28 34 9 2 18 -18 183
29 18 9 3 27 -27 156
30 0 9 4 36 -36 120
31 6 9 5 45 -45 75
32 9 9 6 54 -54 21
33 18 9 7 63 -63 -42
34 33 9 8 72 -72 -114
35 30 9 9 81 -81 -195


[Celticknits]

You have a lot of lurkers that would be dissapointed if you stopped.

Below is the payout sheet for the Jackpot247 numbers again only using the count to make decisions.
BR $800 Profit Goal $80-$100 Note â€" These numbers have not changed in almost two months.
The BR amount is based on the highest drawdown I ever had playing repeats.

Drawdowns in the neighbourhood of $400 are common and I WOULD NOT bet repeats with a smaller BR than $400.

It is strange to note that this is the same BR that would have covered all of the 99 KTF wins.

-Celtic

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JACKPOT 247   13APR16

S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 11 0 0 0 0
2 9 0 0 0 0
3 29 0 0 0 0
4 28 0 0 0 0
5 5 0 0 0 0
6 17 0 0 0 0
7 12 0 0 0 0
8 7 0 0 0 0
9 32 0 0 0 0
10 20 0 0 0 0
11 20 R 0 0 0 0
12 10 0 0 0 0
13 22 0 0 0 0
14 9 R 0 0 0 0
15 17 R 0 0 0 0
16 4 0 0 0 0
17 0 0 0 0 0
18 21 14 1 14 -14 -14
19 9 R 14 2 28 72 44 30
20 13 13 1 13 -13 17
21 4 R 13 2 26 72 46 63
22 22 R 12 1 12 36 24 87   ---   WIN GOAL REACHED IN ONLY 5 BETTING SPINS SO QUIT
23 36 11 1 11 -11 76
24 4 11 2 22 -22 54
25 18 11 3 33 -33 21
26 7 R 11 4 44 144 100 121
27 14 10 3 30 -30 91
28 34 10 4 40 -40 51
29 18 10 5 50 -50 1
30 0 R 10 6 60 216 156 157
31 6 9 5 45 -45 112
32 9 9 6 54 -54 58
33 18 9 7 63 -63 -5
34 33 9 8 72 -72 -77
35 30 9 9 81 -81 -158
36 21 9 10 90 -90 -248
37 24 9 11 99 -99 -347


[NextYear]

Great posts, as usual, Celtic!

Thank you

[Celticknits]

Great posts, as usual, Celtic!

Thank you

Thank you.

-Celtic