KTF's cousin named WTF (if everyone agrees)

[nottophammer]

Todays #'s

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jackpot247 27.4.16
1 0
2 8
3 27
4 30
5 15
6 30
7 24
8 0
9 0
10 18
11 2
12 9
13 16
14 1
15 22
16 10
17 24
18 13
19 28
20 7
21 19
22 22
23 24
24 12
25 10
26 33
27 17
28 20
29 35
30 14
31 22
32 8
33 12
34 12
35 9
36 24
37 35
38 7
39 8
40 16
41 4
42 7
43 30
44 24
45 13
46 6
47 31
48 6
49 29
50 30
51 17
52 36
53 28
54 21
55 6
56 9
57 9
58 29
59 24
60 28

61 5
62 26
63 18
64 9
65 10
66 28
67 2
68 14
69 29
70 23
71 3
72 26
73 13
74 28
75 24
76 28
77 28
78 25
79 20
80 30
81 20
82 26
83 23


[RouletteGhost]

1s and 2s

[nottophammer]

Had a rare visit to the B+M, used the airball, interblock. Single zero RG 

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Aspers mk 27.04.16
1 12
2 12
3 11
4 4
5 19
6 14
7 25
8 16
9 16
10 1
11 12
12 29
13 15
14 28
15 34
16 9
17 24
18 6
19 8
20 2
21 36
22 2
23 22
24 33
25 35
26 36
27 9
28 8
29 1
30 33
31 11
32 13
33 6
34 34
35 35
36 9
37 22
38 11
39 18
40 35
41 3
42 34
43 15
44 31
45 6
46 15
47 4
48 36
49 10
50 12
51 14
52 0
53 25
54 24
55 23
56 30
57 23
58 5
59 32
60 24

61 24
62 13
63 33
64 16
65 29
66 21
67 29
68 27
69 18
70 34
71 5
72 36
73 34
74 35
75 26
76 17
77 20
78 2
79 27
80 35
81 20
82 18
83 9
84 8
85 21
86 16
87 15
88 26
89 0
90 0
91 27
92 0


[nottophammer]

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jackpot247 29.4.16
1 12
2 2
3 31
4 24
5 22
6 14
7 23
8 33
9 34
10 30
11 17
12 33
13 11
14 14
15 8
16 6
17 21
18 5
19 20
20 4
21 10
22 25
23 25
24 6
25 22
26 16
27 14
28 21
29 19
30 11
31 7
32 28
33 4
34 2
35 26
36 8
37 29
38 36
39 30
40 1
41 14
42 12
43 28
44 18
45 24
46 19
47 24
48 29
49 35
50 16
51 5
52 4
53 8
54 35
55 13
56 11
57 11
58 17
59 31
60 13

61 5
62 18
63 22
64 6
65 4
66 25
67 20
68 19
69 12


[Celticknits]

Had a rare visit to the B+M, used the airball, interblock. Single zero RG 

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Aspers mk 27.04.16
1 12
2 12
3 11
4 4
5 19
6 14
7 25
8 16
9 16
10 1
11 12
12 29
13 15
14 28
15 34
16 9
17 24
18 6
19 8
20 2
21 36
22 2
23 22
24 33
25 35
26 36
27 9
28 8
29 1
30 33
31 11
32 13
33 6
34 34
35 35
36 9
37 22
38 11
39 18
40 35
41 3
42 34
43 15
44 31
45 6
46 15
47 4
48 36
49 10
50 12
51 14
52 0
53 25
54 24
55 23
56 30
57 23
58 5
59 32
60 24

61 24
62 13
63 33
64 16
65 29
66 21
67 29
68 27
69 18
70 34
71 5
72 36
73 34
74 35
75 26
76 17
77 20
78 2
79 27
80 35
81 20
82 18
83 9
84 8
85 21
86 16
87 15
88 26
89 0
90 0
91 27
92 0


-Notto Thanks for the numbers.

Here is my payout sheet as I normally would have played it.
I say normally because actually I would have played this using only G.U.T. if I had been in a casino but I don't need the wrath of the keepers of the curve coming back to criticize.
It wins either way.

-Celtic

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ASPERS   27APR16
Bet Repeats using Count, Nottos Averages, LOTT & G.U.T.
S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 12
2 12 R
3 11
4 4
5 19
6 14
7 25
8 16
9 16 R
10 1 8/10
11 11 R
12 29
13 15
14 28
15 34
16 9
17 24
18 6
19 8
20 2 Count is 9 +4 Wait for 2 Unhits or Next R in 2 spins
21 36
22 2 R
23 22 15 1 15 -15 -15
24 33 15 2 30 -30 -45
25 35 15 3 45 -45 -90    ---------- Did a countback to add 3 Unhits
26 36 R1 18 4 72 144 72 -18    ---------- NOTE: G.U.T track is 17-17-5 --- Here come the Repeats
27 9 R1 17 3 51 108 57 39     
28 8 R1 16 2 32 72 40 79     ---------- Win/Stop reached so QUIT
29 1 R1 15 1 15 36 21 100
30 33 R1 14 1 14 36 22 122
31 11 RX 13 1 13 -13 109
32 13 13 2 26 72 46 155
33 6 R1 13 1 13 36 23 178
34 34 R1 12 1 12 36 24 202
35 35 R1 11 1 11 36 25 227
36 9 RX 10 1 10 -10 217
37 22 R1 10 2 20 72 52 269
NOTE:  RX Designates numbers already repeated


[Celticknits]

In tribute to Notto here is the repeats payout sheet for his last set of Jackpot247 for a while.
I for one will miss him until/if he returns.

He is a great mentor and friend.

-Celtic

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JACKPOT247   30APR16
Bet Repeats using Count, Nottos Averages, LOTT & G.U.T.
S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 16
2 17
3 9
4 8
5 30
6 20
7 23
8 35
9 18
10 32                10/10
11 21
12 8 R
13 7
14 15
15 5
16 14
17 14 R
18 2
19 34
20 20 R                7 +2
21 14 RX 15 1 15 -15 -15
22 13 15 2 30 -30 -45
23 8 RX 15 3 45 -45 -90
24 15 R 14 4 56 144 88 -2
25 3 14 3 42 -42 -44
26 29 14 4 56 -56 -100
27 21 R 14 5 70 180 110 10
28 35 R 13 4 52 144 92 102   --- Win/Stop reached so quit
29 0 R 12 1 12 36 24 126
30 32 R 11 1 11 36 25 151
31 26 10 1 10 -10 -10
32 22 10 2 20 -20 -20
33 19 10 3 30 -30 -30
34 5 R 10 4 40 144 104 104
35 0 RX 9 3 27 -27 -27
36 6 9 4 36 -36 -36
37 6 RX 9 5 45 -45 -45
NOTE:  RX Designates numbers already repeated


[Celticknits]

Well I have finally come up with a strategy for betting the new Fusion Airball machines at my B&M.
After over 100 test runs I discovered that in looking at the Averages and LOTT the average unhits in a cycle is higher, the number of repeats in a cycle is lower and the number of multiple repeats in a cycle is higher. --- How the hell they are controlling this I do not know.

NOTTO STATED A WHILE AGO THAT PEOPLE SHOULD WORK OUT THE AVERAGES FOR THE MACHINES THEY ARE USING.
THIS FACT AND SWITCHING TO RELYING ON G.U.T. FOR MY BETTING ENTRY POINT HAS PUT ME BACK IN THE GAME.

Now I am ONLY using G.U.T. to arrive at a betting entry point.
After I start betting I watch the Count, Averages and LOTT --- AS THEY RELATE TO THESE MACHINES
I no longer covering the 0 and 00 if they are not in the original betting sequence.

I am still only betting within one cycle.
I am still only betting for single Repeats.
I am still using an $800 BR.
I am still using a +1/-1 progression with no limit.
I still use a $80-$100 Win/Stop

REMEMBER THIS IS A STRATEGY NOT A SYSTEM OR METHOD SO DO NOT ASK FOR A SET OF RULES JUST LEARN TO USE G.U.T, GET AVERAGES FOR YOUR MACHINE OF PLAY,  WATCH THE COUNT,  AND PRACTICE, PRACTICE PRACTICE. YOU WILL GET THERE IF YOU PERSIST.

Below is the payout sheet, betting Repeats, for todays Jackpot247 numbers supplied by Notto over on the KTF thread, using the above parameters I am using on Airball at my B&M.

I hope this information is of benefit to others following the WTF thread

-Celtic

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JACKPOT247   5MAY16
Bet Repeats using Count, Nottos Averages, LOTT & G.U.T.
S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 27
2 5
3 31
4 3
5 19
6 28
7 22
8 35
9 9
10 24
11 13
12 34
13 29
14 12
15 10
16 6
17 27 R1
18 29 R1
19 21
20 30
21 15
22 24 R1
23 18
24 33 17 1 17 -17 -17
25 16 17 2 34 -34 -51
26 13 R1 17 3 51 108 57 6
27 23 16 2 32 -32 -26
28 10 R1 16 3 48 108 60 34
29 25 15 2 30 -30 4
30 28 R1 15 3 45 108 63 67
31 9 R1 18 2 36 72 36 103 ---   Win/Stop reached so QUIT!!!
32 24 R2 17 1 17 -17 86
33 25 R1 17 2 34 72 38 124
34 17 16 1 16 -16 108
35 29 R2 16 2 32 -32 76
36 9 16 2 32 -32 44
37 29 R3 16 2 32 -32 12
NOTE:  R>R1 Designates numbers already repeated


[NextYear]

Thanks Celtic for update, it was very quiet here last week!

[tuddilue]

Thanks Celticknits!  I'm doing something similar.  I have started to use GUT to determine how I will do like you are doing.

I only use a smaller bankroll of 450, I'm a bit curious why you use a 800? Maybe I missed something?

-Tuddilue

[Celticknits]

Thanks Celtic for update, it was very quiet here last week!

-Nextyear

Others besides me could have posted.

I was determined to figure out what the h~ll was going on with those new airball machines so i could start betting repeats again.
I was reduced to playing Grassroots DD for the last couple of weeks since their installation.
With a 30 second bet limit it was too hectic trying to play KTF.
I did OK but not as much fun for me as betting repeats.

-Celtic

[Celticknits]

Thanks Celticknits!  I'm doing something similar.  I have started to use GUT to determine how I will do like you are doing.

I only use a smaller bankroll of 450, I'm a bit curious why you use a 800? Maybe I missed something?

-Tuddilue

-Tuddilue

The $800 BR was based on the maximum DD on the old machine so I just continued with it on the new machines.
I can afford to lose $800 in a few sessions at this point without any worries.

-Celtic

[nottophammer]

Celtic
Have you designed a new record sheet or still use your old one.

[tuddilue]

-Tuddilue

The $800 BR was based on the maximum DD on the old machine so I just continued with it on the new machines.
I can afford to lose $800 in a few sessions at this point without any worries.

-Celtic

Interesting. I must calculate on this. For me I'm using a 7 step progression for 15 unit. I think that is enough. How do you think about 800? I mean how high progression and for what unit?

-Tuddilue

[Celticknits]

Celtic
Have you designed a new record sheet or still use your old one.

-Notto

I am still using the old sheet.
I attached a copy.
Oh, I did add two GUT columns on to each group of ten.
I could have shortened it to only cover 4 groups of 10 but have not got around to it.
I know, lazy lazy lazy ---Right
To keep track of the Repeats greater than 1 I just designate them as R1 R2 R3 etc.
Do you have something better?

-Celtic

[tuddilue]

-Notto

I am still using the old sheet.
I attached a copy.
Oh, I did add two GUT columns on to each group of ten.
I could have shortened it to only cover 4 groups of 10 but have not got around to it.
I know, lazy lazy lazy ---Right
To keep track of the Repeats greater than 1 I just designate them as R1 R2 R3 etc.
Do you have something better?

-Celtic

That will I also start to use, thanks!!

-Tuddilue