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Started by NextYear, Mar 19, 02:42 AM 2016

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tuddilue

Quote from: winkel on May 10, 08:43 AM 2016
Hi tuddilue,

Remember, what I said: Do I bet or shouldn´t I bet? If in doubt don´t bet. It´s just that simple.

The next spin will tell you right or wrong. And it tells you: Is it till average? Is it changing to slow/fast?

Not betting means not losing!
Bet only when you are sure of what you are doing.
Exercise will give you the feeling to be right or to be wrong.
Thanks for the good advices!

Yes I really experiences this now when I using the GUT in combination with nottos sheets and averages. I think it is really funny and you learn a lot!

- Tuddilue

tuddilue

Quote from: nottophammer on May 10, 02:00 PM 2016
tuddilue
Dont know if this will help for tracking.
Blue box indicates 10 spins.
Grey box Winkel info.
As the 0X,hit and become a 1X, mark both off and in the small column put a mark of choice, if the 1x repeats cross both out and the mark of choice,then mark the 2X plus a mark of choice in the small column.
The other boxes marks the trot/count.
Also a column for KTF to help see the trot/count
Aha thanks notto!
Yes it helps a lot. I will test this sheet.

I have seen this before but now with my new knowledge it will be more informative.

So thanks again!

-Tuddile

Celticknits

Thank you for today's 11May16 Jackpot247 numbers Notto.

With the discussions regarding averages in the last few days this should be relatively easy to figure out.
Here is the payout sheet.

-Celtic


JACKPOT247   11MAY16
Bet Repeats using Count, Nottos Averages, LOTT & G.U.T.
S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 23
2 0
3 31
4 1
5 11
6 11 R1
7 35
8 24
9 17
10 16 9/10
11 9
12 15
13 35 R1
14 2
15 26
16 8
17 20
18 36
19 28 14 1 14 -14 -14
20 25 14 2 28 -28 -42
21 0 R1 16 3 48 108 60 18
22 8 R1 15 2 30 72 42 60
23 14 14 1 14 -14 46
24 17 R1 15 2 30 72 42 88       ---   Win/Stop reached so QUIT!!!
25 15 R1 14 1 14 36 22 110
26 10 13 1 13 -13 97
27 19 13 2 26 -26 71
28 13 13 3 39 -39 32
29 25 R1 13 4 52 144 92 124
30 29 12 1 12 -12 112
31 18 12 2 24 -24 88
32 3 12 3 36 -36 52
33 13 R1 11 4 44 144 100 152
34 22 10 1 10 -10 142
35 35 R2 10 2 20 -20 122
36 0 R2 10 3 30 -30 92
37 35 R3 10 4 40 -40 52
NOTE:  R>R1 Designates numbers already repeated

'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

RouletteGhost

the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

tuddilue

Quote from: Celticknits on May 11, 09:22 AM 2016
Thank you for today's 11May16 Jackpot247 numbers Notto.

With the discussions regarding averages in the last few days this should be relatively easy to figure out.
Here is the payout sheet.

-Celtic
....
Yes I also started betting on #19.
I was betting at 15 numbers not 14. (Maybe I did something wrong)
I also did a count back at #20.
In the end I got the same result. Practice, practice, practice  O0
Thanks celtic!
- Tuddilue

Celticknits

Quote from: tuddilue on May 11, 04:15 PM 2016
Yes I also started betting on #19.
I was betting at 15 numbers not 14. (Maybe I did something wrong)
I also did a count back at #20.
In the end I got the same result. Practice, practice, practice  O0
Thanks celtic!
- Tuddilue

-Tuddi

Not sure how you were betting 15 at spin 19.
If 2 single Repeats have come in 18 spins your bet has to be 18-4=14.

If your initial bet was 15, at spin 21 your bet would be 17 with the countback.
How could you possibly end up with the same result.
I think your calculator needs a new battery :twisted:

-Celtic
'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

tuddilue

Quote from: Celticknits on May 11, 05:09 PM 2016
-Tuddi

Not sure how you were betting 15 at spin 19.
If 2 single Repeats have come in 18 spins your bet has to be 18-4=14.

If your initial bet was 15, at spin 21 your bet would be 17 with the countback.
How could you possibly end up with the same result.
I think your calculator needs a new battery :twisted:

-Celtic
He he yes I was surprised as well. I think I added one unhit to many. I rerun them now and than it works with the same numbers as you had  :wink:

-Tuddilue

Celticknits

-Tuddi

You posted some numbers recently in a thread called 'The Dirty Dozerns'.
I have two questions for you:

1) Were these numbers RNG?
2) Did you check them for betting repeats?

-Celtic
'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

tuddilue

Quote from: Celticknits on May 12, 11:07 AM 2016
-Tuddi

You posted some numbers recently in a thread called 'The Dirty Dozerns'.
I have two questions for you:

1) Were these numbers RNG?
2) Did you check them for betting repeats?

-Celtic
My answers below:
1) Yes Bwin rng from yesterday.
2) Played for repeats and with gut on these. Interesting to see your analysis of them. I can tell you later how I played them if you want?
-Tuddilue

tuddilue

Quote from: tuddilue on May 12, 11:11 AM 2016
My answers below:
1) Yes Bwin rng from yesterday.
2) Played for repeats and with gut on these. Interesting to see your analysis of them. I can tell you later how I played them if you want?
-Tuddilue
So the numbers are:

Bwin 20160511 RNG
32
15
24
30
12
3
7
34
4
6
18
34
6
5
11
15
24
17
18
26
4
8
8
16
15
28
22
21
12
10
1
15
19
0
1
31

- Tuddilue

Celticknits

-Nottos Jackpot247 Numbers for 12May16 - Thank you Notto

1    21
2    2
3    13
4    22
5    26
6    30
7    1
8    20
9    0
10    16
11    31
12    30
13    17
14    23
15    29
16   19
17    34
18    14
19    9
20    33
21    27
22    28
23    27
24    5
25    5
26    36
27    16
28    12
29    22
30    26
31    7
32    14
33    7
34    32
35    13
36    2
37   29

Bit of a bumpy ride to start with and a good example of why I use a $800 Br.
At spin 23 I had a -504 DD but gotta KTF as Notto says.
Hit Win/Stop of +83 at spin 33.

Rather than just posting the payout sheet try it for yourself and ask questions if you get stuck.
Hint -Use GUT mainly and then averages and LOTT to find the betting entry point.

-Celtic
'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

nottophammer

As your looking at RNG heres 30 #'s from this afternoon.
lads enf 12.05.16
1 6
2 28
3 25
4 36
5 18
6 16
7 22
8 26
9 35
10 7
11 30
12 31
13 11
14 3
15 36
16 24
17 32
18 9
19 20
20 29
21 35
22 28
23 23
24 33
25 20
26 12
27 15
28 24
29 20
30 29
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

nottophammer

And heres W.Hill other end of town
wh.enf 12.05.16
1 21
2 28
3 3
4 32
5 2
6 27
7 33
8 13
9 21
10 4
11 15
12 26
13 19
14 20
15 3
16 24
17 12
18 8
19 36
20 16
21 28
22 30
23 0
24 3
25 8
26 31
27 21
28 33
29 11
30 18
31 8
32 1
33 21
34 5
35 15
36 7
37 6
38 36
39 15
40 33
41 4
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

Celticknits

Quote from: tuddilue on May 12, 11:11 AM 2016
My answers below:
1) Yes Bwin rng from yesterday.
2) Played for repeats and with gut on these. Interesting to see your analysis of them. I can tell you later how I played them if you want?
-Tuddilue

-Tuddi

Like you I used GUT mainly for the betting entry point.
NOTE: Had spin 18 been another Repeat I would have reset to make spin 11 my new starting point.

The other thing I would like to mention is that players have to master is the countback and watch that progression level.

Because I especially want every single Repeat to pay when I am already starting to bet with a high single Repeat count to begin with, I will do  countbacks on individual numbers as they happen up to spin 25. I did not do this here (prior to hitting the Win/Stop) because I did not want to be accused of curve fitting. After the Win/Stop was reached had I continued you can see why this is individual countback would be important at spin 23.
Remember if you look at the averages you can only rely on 9 Single Repeats in a spin cycle to pay off.

The nice thing about starting to bet when 4 Single Repeats have come is that your bet and stake amounts are very low.

I hope I have explained this in a manner that you can understand.

Here is the payout sheet as I would have played it.

-Celtic


TUDDILUE DIRTY DOZENS   12MAY16
Bet Repeats using Count, Nottos Averages, LOTT & G.U.T.
S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 32
2 15
3 24
4 30
5 12
6 3
7 7
8 34
9 4
10 6 10/10
11 18
12 34 R1
13 6 R1
14 5
15 11
16 15 R1
17 24 R1
18 17 9 1 9 -9 -9   ---  GUT is good so start to bet - Had this been a 5th Repeat I would have reset
19 18 R1 9 2 18 72 54 45
20 26 8 1 8 -8 37
21 4 R1 10 2 20 72 52 89   --- Note countback - Win/Stop reached so QUIT!!!
22 8 9 1 9 -9 80
23 8 R1 10 2 20 72 52 132   --- Note individual countback
24 16 9 1 9 -9 123
25 15 R2 10 2 20 -20 103   --- Another individual countback
26 28 10 3 30 -30 73
27 22 10 4 40 -40 33
28 21 10 5 50 -50 -17
29 12 R1 10 6 60 216 156 139
30 10 9 1 9 -9 130
31 1 9 2 18 -18 112
32 15 R3 9 3 27 -27 85
33 19 9 4 36 -36 49
34 0 9 5 45 -45 4
35 1 RX 9 6 54 -54 -50
36 31 9 7 63 -63 -113
NOTE:  R>R1 Designates numbers already repeated
Rx Designates numbers Repeated but not bet on


'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

Celticknits

Quote from: nottophammer on May 12, 12:32 PM 2016
As your looking at RNG heres 30 #'s from this afternoon.
lads enf 12.05.16
1 6
2 28
3 25
4 36
5 18
6 16
7 22
8 26
9 35
10 7
11 30
12 31
13 11
14 3
15 36
16 24
17 32
18 9
19 20
20 29
21 35
22 28
23 23
24 33
25 20
26 12
27 15
28 24
29 20
30 29


-Notto

Thank You.
Have to admit I would have gone for at least one more Single Repeat with 3 still expected in the next 7 spins.

-Celtic


LADS   12MAY16
Bet Repeats using Count, Nottos Averages, LOTT & G.U.T.
S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 6
2 28
3 25
4 36
5 18
6 16
7 22
8 26
9 35
10 7 10/10
11 30
12 31
13 11
14 3
15 36 R1
16 24
17 32
18 9
19 20 16 1 16 -16 -16
20 29 16 2 32 -32 -48
21 35 R1 18 3 54 108 54 6
22 28 R1 17 2 34 72 38 44
23 23 16 1 16 -16 28
24 33 17 2 34 -34 -6
25 20 R1 18 3 54 108 54 48
26 12 17 2 34 -34 14
27 15 17 3 51 -51 -37
28 24 R1 17 4 68 144 76 39
29 20 R2 16 3 48 -48 -9
30 29 R1 16 4 64 144 80 71
NOTE:  R>R1 Designates numbers already repeated
Rx Designates numbers Repeated but not bet on


'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

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