KTF's cousin named WTF (if everyone agrees)

[NextYear]

Looking at Gut, I see how it, as spins pass, moves proportionally to the right...

What was happening to the 0x, is later happening to 1x (2/3 of it), and then to 2x (also 2/3 proportionally to 1x's) etc., every 12 spins or so...

If you know what I mean 

[Celticknits]

Thanks Celtic!
I totally agree with. I will start doing this when I expect 6 more repeats to come.

The 6 was only an example and not meant to be a parameter.

I think the reason why I do like this is because I want to learn G.U.T and WTF betting on 1x.
So I was a bit uncertain how the RNG will react.

And this is why you have to do the averages for the machine you are playing on.

But now I see that this average of 9 single repeates works as well on the RNG.

Do not count on it being 9 for all RNG setups.
Once you step into the land of RNG anything is possible. I have seen 16 Single Repeats and no Multiple Repeats in a single spin cycle on RNG. I have also seen 3 Single Repeats and 11 Multiple Repeats on RNG.
Never seen anything like this on my B&M Airball or live dealers wheels.

Again, why you need to do the Averages based on the machine you are playing.

-Tuddilue

-Celtic

[tuddilue]

The 6 was only an example and not meant to be a parameter.

And this is why you have to do the averages for the machine you are playing on.

Do not count on it being 9 for all RNG setups.
Once you step into the land of RNG anything is possible. I have seen 16 Single Repeats and no Multiple Repeats in a single spin cycle on RNG. I have also seen 3 Single Repeats and 11 Multiple Repeats on RNG.
Never seen anything like this on my B&M Airball or live dealers wheels.

Again, why you need to do the Averages based on the machine you are playing.

-Celtic

Ok I understand.

For me I have only seen 6 at least of single repeaters. But I should not be surprised with 3.
Yes I have started to collect the averages.
I think that is the way to go. But you also need to keep in mind that you are betting against a software 
-Tuddilue

[tuddilue]

Ok I understand.

For me I have only seen 6 at least of single repeaters. But I should not be surprised with 3.
Yes I have started to collect the averages.
I think that is the way to go. But you also need to keep in mind that you are betting against a software 
-Tuddilue

I have started to collect the averages and I have them on sheets. But how do I transfer that to excel?
Are you using nottos average excel document celtic?

Thanks in advance.

-Tuddilue

[nottophammer]

   Corals 26.05.16

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1 24
2 36
3 4
4 1
5 30
6 15
7 20
8 17
9 10
10 12
11 30
12 25
13 33
14 18
15 26
16 0
17 11
18 27
19 16
20 31
21 18
22 11
23 35
24 32
25 9
26 7
27 23
28 19


[Celticknits]

  Corals 26.05.16

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1 24
2 36
3 4
4 1
5 30
6 15
7 20
8 17
9 10
10 12
11 30
12 25
13 33
14 18
15 26
16 0
17 11
18 27
19 16
20 31
21 18
22 11
23 35
24 32
25 9
26 7
27 23
28 19


-Notto

Interesting.
Where the numbers stop the 15 unhit in 30 spins has been fulfilled and Repeats are ready to come any time based on normal Averages.
Why did you stop?

-Celtic

[Celticknits]

-Notto

Or did you KTF and switch to bet the two repeats at spins 21 and 22 on the 26May16 Coral's numbers?

-Celtic

[nottophammer]

I was just watching, cheap spinning, after spin 15, i went for the 1X, after spin 18 i placed a unit also on the last 3 unhit. Finallly a win on spin 21,reduced the unit on the 1X from spins 1-15, and +1 the spins from 16-20, Win.
Now with BR almost back to even, i reduced everything backto 1 unit.
Now with 19 1x's, thinking is 2X could go 3X, and with all the 1X available, bet 1x+2x, well as you can see, Rng 6 more 0x's, £100 gone, so left.
Reason, been at this point before and its ended +5 at spin 40.
Now as i've said, i've had to change game play along the years as there comes a point where what ever one does the machine does the opposite, the last few days start KTF get 3 repeats, dont KTF just watch the nonhits fly in, so you think 1x are heavy, but no the 0x keep coming.
Even reduced units this week and again 1# does not have the same units as the others, yes pays the low unit out.

Looks like the ride to MK, Luton and good old Stratfield will have to have to happen.

[NextYear]

Sorry to hear that, Notto. Was also having some unpleasant experiences lately.

Damn numbers. Back to laboratory!

[tuddilue]

Sorry to hear that nottophammer.
Yes I'm not so skilled as Celticknits yet but so far just small losses. Played around 15 sessions.

One thing I noticed is to bet when 1x is only 11 around spin 18. The progression is low then.

As always look at average. Both 1x and your averages..

The trott is always best at normal but one good is from normal to slow..

- Tuddilue

[Celticknits]

Here is the payout sheet for todays Jackpot247 27May16 numbers posted by Notto.
Following the tracking and Averages this should not have been a problem for anyone.
Another 7/10 in first 10 spins???

-Celtic

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JACKPOT247   27MAY16
Bet Repeats using Count, Nottos Averages, LOTT & G.U.T.
S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 9
2 15
3 13
4 9 R1
5 7
6 9 R2
7 32
8 15 R1
9 24
10 17 7/10
11 16
12 18
13 4
14 1
15 2
16 17 R1
17 29
18 0
19 10 11 1 11 -11 -11
20 20 12 2 24 -24 -35
21 0 R1 13 3 39 108 69 34
22 9 R3 12 2 24 -24 10
23 26 12 3 36 -36 -26
24 12 13 4 52 -52 -78
25 20 R1 14 5 70 180 110 32
26 35 13 4 52 -52 -20
27 29 R1 13 5 65 180 115 95       ---   Win/Stop reached so QUIT!!!
28 26 R1 12 1 12 36 24 119
29 1 R1 11 1 11 36 25 144
30 26 R2 10 1 10 -10 134
31 13 R1 10 2 20 72 52 186
32 7 R1 9 1 9 36 27 213
33 31 8 1 8 -8 205
34 8 8 2 16 -16 189
35 14 8 3 24 -24 165
36 5 8 4 32 -32 133
37 0 R2 8 5 40 -40 93
NOTE:  R>R1 Designates numbers already repeated
Rx Designates numbers Repeated but not bet on



[NextYear]

Thanks Celtic!

Yes, all clear here.

[nottophammer]

Okay after the RNG bashing i've gone to B+M. Table 1 and table 2, recording both, bets on non-hit and some for repeats.
Had 2 games for each table, table 2 spinning faster than table 1.
1st game table 1 stops at spin 28, game 2 started on spin 21.  +182 for £1 unit, good thing is dont have to pay to spin.

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Aspers mk 27.05.16
1 32
2 25
3 13
4 34
5 17
6 35
7 16
8 24
9 35
10 14
11 4
12 22
13 11
14 25
15 14
16 28
17 21
18 0
19 11
20 21
21 31
22 6
23 29
24 20
25 3
26 20
27 10
28 3
29 21
30 35
31 2
32 6
33 19
34 12
35 1
36 20
37 26
38 31
39 30
40 30
41 26
42 25
43 17
44 26
45 4
46 32
47 10
48 5
49 35
50 18
51 16
52 24
53 22
54 18
55 29
56 3
57 33
58 10
59 3
60 22

Table 2  Game 1 on table 2 stopped at spin 46. i started game 2 on table 2 at spin 38

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Aspers mk 27.05.16
1 8
2 22
3 32
4 4
5 6
6 28
7 3
8 10
9 9
10 18
11 25
12 3
13 22
14 22
15 24
16 20
17 3
18 11
19 30
20 28
21 26
22 0
23 19
24 24
25 27
26 3
27 26
28 21
29 34
30 11
31 27
32 30
33 35
34 34
35 3
36 19
37 32
38 31
39 12
40 6
41 29
42 15
43 24
44 28
45 8
46 31
47 21
48 4
49 25
50 5
51 12
52 11
53 23
54 1
55 26
56 10
57 21
58 9
59 9
60 34
61 15
62 20
63 10
64 25
65 10
66 10
67 13
68 6
69 11
70 22
71 5
72 25
73 4
74 14
75 30
76 30
77 15
78 1
79 2
80 14
81 9
82 24
83 5
84 8
85 16


[nottophammer]

Now whilst waiting for Mrs hammer i thought i'd look at Celtics auto wheel, interblock. only got 29 spins, but fast non-hit, the zero made us laugh hit 34 bounced, hit 26 then rolled into the zero.

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1 19
2 21
3 2
4 32
5 18
6 6
7 20
8 24
9 4
10 34
11 9
12 19
13 7
14 5
15 36
16 10
17 27
18 25
19 16
20 17
21 3
22 36
23 16
24 12
25 33
26 33
27 27
28 30
29 0


[Celticknits]

Okay after the RNG bashing i've gone to B+M. Table 1 and table 2, recording both, bets on non-hit and some for repeats.
Had 2 games for each table, table 2 spinning faster than table 1.
1st game table 1 stops at spin 28, game 2 started on spin 21.  +182 for £1 unit, good thing is dont have to pay to spin.

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Aspers mk 27.05.16
1 32
2 25
3 13
4 34
5 17
6 35
7 16
8 24
9 35
10 14
11 4
12 22
13 11
14 25
15 14
16 28
17 21
18 0
19 11
20 21
21 31
22 6
23 29
24 20
25 3
26 20
27 10
28 3
29 21
30 35
31 2
32 6
33 19
34 12
35 1
36 20
37 26
38 31
39 30
40 30
41 26
42 25
43 17
44 26
45 4
46 32
47 10
48 5
49 35
50 18
51 16
52 24
53 22
54 18
55 29
56 3
57 33
58 10
59 3
60 22

Table 2  Game 1 on table 2 stopped at spin 46. i started game 2 on table 2 at spin 38

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Aspers mk 27.05.16
1 8
2 22
3 32
4 4
5 6
6 28
7 3
8 10
9 9
10 18
11 25
12 3
13 22
14 22
15 24
16 20
17 3
18 11
19 30
20 28
21 26
22 0
23 19
24 24
25 27
26 3
27 26
28 21
29 34
30 11
31 27
32 30
33 35
34 34
35 3
36 19
37 32
38 31
39 12
40 6
41 29
42 15
43 24
44 28
45 8
46 31
47 21
48 4
49 25
50 5
51 12
52 11
53 23
54 1
55 26
56 10
57 21
58 9
59 9
60 34
61 15
62 20
63 10
64 25
65 10
66 10
67 13
68 6
69 11
70 22
71 5
72 25
73 4
74 14
75 30
76 30
77 15
78 1
79 2
80 14
81 9
82 24
83 5
84 8
85 16


These two games are a perfect examples of the interplay between following Tracking and Averages to win.
Anyone wanting to bet repeats should try these!!!

-Celtic