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Started by RouletteGhost, Mar 27, 09:10 PM 2016

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RouletteGhost

Quote from: The General on Mar 27, 11:10 PM 2016
Betting quickly enough isn't the problem.

The problem is the system won't work... for reasons which everyone should already know.

Define "wont work" in your own words

Because notto hasnt lost yet....
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

Azim

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Mar 27, 11:13 PM 2016
Define "wont work" in your own words

Because notto hasnt lost yet....

I would rephrase that he has lost once.
With right tools and good money management, any gambling activity can produce a steady income.

RouletteGhost

Quote from: Azim on Mar 27, 11:14 PM 2016
I would rephrase that he has lost once.

Im just curious about the wont work comment

Everyones definition will be different

If notto wins 85 games and loses 1 (i believe thats what it was) then id assume he says it works
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

The General

QuoteDefine "wont work" in your own words

"Won't work" = LOSE.  Over time, the player will inevitably lose his entire bankroll to the casino.


The question you should be asking is, why should it work?  What is it about the system that makes it a winner?  How does it change the odds?
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

RouletteGhost

Quote from: The General on Mar 27, 11:17 PM 2016



The question you should be asking is, why should it work?

Betting unhits with a small win goal after 10 spins.

Maths says we have on average 20 something uniques in 37 spins

Seems decent to me

Have you read the ktf thread at all?  Not poking at you. Just curious if you read it
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

The General

In short, it's betting 10 unhit numbers?  Correct?
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

Azim

Quote from: The General on Mar 27, 11:21 PM 2016
In short, it's betting 10 unhit numbers?  Correct?

Go read the thread and understand it...
With right tools and good money management, any gambling activity can produce a steady income.

RouletteGhost

Quote from: The General on Mar 27, 11:21 PM 2016
In short, it's betting 10 unhit numbers?  Correct?

No

You are assuming it fails because you are VB player

I appreciate your trying to help

But VB players are on strategy boards why?

It will only drive you crazy

You play advantage and visual play. Why would u subject yourself to what is here?

But dont just say it wont work without even knowing what it is
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

The General

Again, why should it work?  What enables it to overcome the house edge?
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

RouletteGhost

Quote from: The General on Mar 27, 11:26 PM 2016
Again, why should it work?  What enables it to overcome the house edge?

Nothing overcomes house edge

Notto created a non hits strategy that works more then it doesnt work. Thats all
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

Azim

Quote from: The General on Mar 27, 11:26 PM 2016
Again, why should it work?  What enables it to overcome the house edge?


Sorry General, you are a General by name, you can't come here and claim that Ken should have his previlages taken away as a mod.


This are your words..  Put your money were your mouth is and explain why it won't work?
Dont use house edge as an excuse.




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General Discussion / Re: I'll be in the minority on this, what else is new?
« on: March 25, 2016, 11:30:06 PM »
Who would go to college and then sit in class while the first semester students teach the class
and the professors get scorned when they speak up and point out how blatantly obvious their
mistakes are. Who has time like that to waste ? (people who see it as a fun game/hobby perhaps).
The problem is Turbo, you guys are the professors. We are the class. Instead of showing us the way all you guys tell the class what the class is doing is wrong. You are telling coming to college for learning is useless as the college is for genius people. That makes things frustrating to learn further. Why dont you show us the way. Why dont you lay exactly how you play rather than throwing puzzles to crack. I can as well do my self study rather than coming to college.
With right tools and good money management, any gambling activity can produce a steady income.

The General

RouletteGhost,

If the method worked then it wouldn't be limited to short little play sessions.

Over time those short little sessions add up to a lost bankroll. 

In short, the longer that it's played, the more it will lose.
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

Azim

Quote from: The General on Mar 27, 11:41 PM 2016
RouletteGhost,

If the method worked then it wouldn't be limited to short little play sessions.

Over time those short little sessions add up to a lost bankroll. 

In short, the longer that it's played, the more it will lose.

That shows how much you know about the system.
With right tools and good money management, any gambling activity can produce a steady income.

The General

Azim,

Can you explain how a system that does not provide the player with an edge over the casino can possibly enable the player to win in the long run?

Can you perhaps show the math that proves that this is possible?

(Don't bother, you can't.)
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

Azim

Quote from: The General on Mar 27, 11:45 PM 2016
Azim,

Can you explain how a system that does not provide the player with an edge over the casino can possibly enable the player to win in the long run?

Can you perhaps show the math that proves that this is possible?

(Don't bother, you can't.)

I am dumb I want to know why it won't work as you say it. So if I understand you right it's the house edge that will fail KTF?
With right tools and good money management, any gambling activity can produce a steady income.

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