For the MATHS boys

[RouletteGhost]

I understand that, and just for fun, I will do the same test with live spins tomorrow. It's getting late here.

Maybe we will learn something from that test

Thanks ati

[Turner]

But how often? Ive never seen it and ive studied multiple thousands of spins

12/36 = 0.32432
0.32432⁹ = 0.0000397023

1/0.0000397023 = 25187

So once every 25187 spins

Same as any 9 combinations

[RouletteGhost]

12/36 = 0.32432
0.32432⁹ = 0.0000397023

1/0.0000397023 = 25187

So once every 25187 spins

Same as any 9 combinations

Thank you

So if i see a uniwie sequence repeat it would be a DECENT bet to bet it wont happen again. in my opinion

[Turner]

Thank you

So if i see a uniwie sequence repeat it would be a DECENT bet to bet it wont happen again. in my opinion

But you have to bet against all 9 not being 123123123, and thats some progression. You cant jump in at 7 and say it wont be another 123 after 123123

That is 123 and it occurs on average every 29 spins

so think about this....

You see 123123 and you say, 123123123 is once every 25K spins.

But so is 112131123 and is also once ever 25K

So, whether you see 123123 or anything else, or dont look at all at the history.

Just bet against 123 occuring. Its all the same thing. A 3.4% chance or once in 29 spins

[RouletteGhost]

But you have to bet against all 9 not being 123123123, and thats some progression. You cant jump in at 7 and say it wont be another 123 after 123123

That is 123 and it occurs on average every 29 spins

right i agree

but physically seeing 123123123 is very very rare.....i have NEVER seen it

[Turner]

right i agree

but physically seeing 123123123 is very very rare.....i have NEVER seen it

I edited ...it was this

so think about this....

You see 123123 and you say, 123123123 is once every 25K spins.

But so is 112131123 and is also once ever 25K

So, whether you see 123123 or anything else, or dont look at all at the history.

Just bet against 123 occuring. Its all the same thing. A 3.4% chance or once in 29 spins

[RouletteGhost]

i understand what you are saying

[Turner]

i understand what you are saying

Its a perfect example of how the wheel has no memory.

[RouletteGhost]

Its a perfect example of how the wheel has no memory.

the wheel has no memory thats right

and 123 has the same chance of occuring everytime.........i dont know i just see something else deep within

same as we wont see 30 blacks

math says black has same chance everytime...but will we see 30 in a row? unlikely we will see 15 in a row...similar idea

math says dont use past spins. because number 30 has same chance of hitting everytime, but will we get 10 number 30s in a row?

THATS how i looks at dozen sequences. 123123123123 can happen but will it

[Steve]

rg you are missing the point. What you saying doesnt help increase your odds. Remember odds and payouts are very different things.

[RouletteGhost]

rg you are missing the point. What you saying doesnt help increase your odds. Remember odds and payouts are very different things.

Ok. Forget odds. I dont want to increase the odds

The odds are the same every spin

What im saying is this: 30 wont hit 10 times in a row. Black wont hit 25 times in a row. 123 dozen sequence wont happen 4 times in a row

This is what i am exploring

The ODDS are the same. I get that

Odd has the same 48 percent chance every spin. But it wont hit 36 times in a row

[RouletteGhost]

It all goes back to : roulette is random but it has limits

[Steve]

You have just said: "I want to make random bets with no better than random accuracy"

30 wont hit 10 times in a row. Black wont hit 25 times in a row. 123 dozen sequence wont happen 4 times in a row

Yes it will, eventually. And with the same probability as any other sequence. That's what you're not understanding yet. Trust me RG, when you understand this point you'll be kicking yourself. Trust me, we've all been there before.

[RouletteGhost]

You have just said: "I want to make random bets with no better than random accuracy"

Yes it will, eventually. And with the same probability as any other sequence. That's what you're not understanding yet. Trust me RG, when you understand this point you'll be kicking yourself. Trust me, we've all been there before.

But i do understand. You are saying i dont understand the probability is the same. That is not true. I do understand that

But there are certain things that just wont happen. Number 30 ten times in a row for example.

[RouletteGhost]

Will not happen:

- numbers 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 to come out consecutively

- a number to hit 10 times back to back

- a unique sequence to repeat 4 times

-35 blacks in a row

Etc

The odds and probabilities are the same. But it wont happen. Why?