For the MATHS boys

[Azim]

Theoretically, that's one way by which you could actually lose at a rate that could exceed the house edge on live wheels.

Do you know how to get from 1 to 2?

[Azim]

If you don't want to play any kind of vb or similar, then your best bet would be to bet on the numbers that have hit the absolute most on live wheels or live machines.  Avoid RNG machines like they're the plague.

REALLY!!!!! 

[The General]

Yep.  Really. 

My advice is FREE

[Azim]

Yep.  Really. 

My advice is FREE

Do you know how to get from 1 to 2?

[The General]

Do you know how to get from 1 to 2?

Well, one time I drove from NY NY to Los Angeles, but I got lost along the way.  Going from 1 to 2 looks like it could be a bit further, so I may need directions.

[Azim]

Well, one time I drove from NY NY to Los Angeles, but I got lost along the way.  Going from 1 to 2 looks like it could be a bit further, so I may need directions.

Get the directions and come back and say it won't work.

[The General]

Azim,

I'm sorry that you find logic is always in the way.  It's not my intention to crush your system ideas.  But the law of the third stuff has been repeated so many times over the last hundred years that it's painful to watch the newbies track down that dead end road again and again.  Escape the confines of the gambler's fallacy.

If you really want to know how to get the edge and win, research what the casino risk consultants are saying to the casinos.  What's on their radar screens as being a real threat. 

[Azim]

Azim,

I'm sorry that you find logic is always in the way.  It's not my intention to crush your system ideas.  But the law of the third stuff has been repeated so many times over the last hundred years that it's painful to watch the newbies track down that dead end road again and again.  Escape the confines of the gambler's fallacy.

If you really want to know how to get the edge and win, research what the casino risk consultants are saying to the casinos.  What's on their radar screens as being a real threat.

SEE THAT'S MY POINT...  YOU JUST ASSUMED I AM TALKING ABOUT THE LAW OF THIRD or SYSTEMS that have been tried out before.

Have you seen me post a system on here?


Once again do you know how to get from 1 to 2?

[Azim]

True, to what Turner has said about TOPIC with MATH GUYS AS TITLE..  However, There should be a clearance between which math boys.

See everyone looks at Math boys as being Roulette math boys.

I for one, will 100% agree to what they are saying to a novice.

However, the other math guys are your statistician who love to play with numbers. They eat, breath and sleep and do rest with numbers.
They would 100% agree with the Roulette math guys but Roulette math guys would never agree with them.

General,

Go understand what I have said here and come back again.

[Steve]

If it works it has to work everywhere not just some wheels.

Azim thats like saying you must win every spin, or it doesnt work at all. Or its like saying an investment must be profitable every time, or theres no point.

There is no system that works everywhere, but there are numerous that win enough of the time to make play viable. You can waste days on a bad wheel and lose $2000. Then you can find and exploit another wheel and take $10,000 in one day. Seems worthwhile, and better han any 9-5 job to me.

[RouletteGhost]

Oh my god. General enough.

You can only make the same point so many times within a few days

Azim just ignore it now he wants to get a rise out of you.

Scroll past his comment and pretend its not there it makes you feel good

[Azim]

Azim thats like saying you must win every spin, or it doesnt work at all. Or its like saying an investment must be profitable every time, or theres no point.

There is no system that works everywhere, but there are numerous that win enough of the time to make play viable. You can waste days on a bad wheel and lose $2000. Then you can find and exploit another wheel and take $10,000 in one day. Seems worthwhile, and better han any 9-5 job to me.

Sorry Steve, that's what you assumed I was saying as well. Words can be misinterpreted in many ways. It all depends on the thinking of the person reading it.

That's why I asked, how do you teach someone to think?

[ati]

Maybe we will learn something from that test

Thanks ati

As promised, I've check the same thing on 100k live spins.
These are the stats for the 123 dozen pattern.

123 - 3397 times
123 1 - 1041 times
123 12 - 339 times
123 123 - 126 times
123 123 1 - 43 times
123 123 12 - 16 times
123 123 123 - 8 times
123 123 123 1 - 2 times
123 123 123 12 - 2 times
123 123 123 123 - 0 times

When would you start betting? After 1231? Then you would have only 1041 triggers in 100k spins. That's not really profitable, is it. Not to mention that you would need to do a 8 level Marty twice. With $1 base unit, it would require a bankroll of $6560 to make $1041 profit on this particular set of 100k spins.

I know it's pretty basic stuff, but I've spent way too much time trying to create systems based on "rare" events and failed every time.

[777vic777]

or you could play 123 123 123 12 parlay and win 177146USD 2 times...  :-)

[RouletteGhost]

As promised, I've check the same thing on 100k live spins.
These are the stats for the 123 dozen pattern.

123 - 3397 times
123 1 - 1041 times
123 12 - 339 times
123 123 - 126 times
123 123 1 - 43 times
123 123 12 - 16 times
123 123 123 - 8 times
123 123 123 1 - 2 times
123 123 123 12 - 2 times
123 123 123 123 - 0 times

When would you start betting? After 1231? Then you would have only 1041 triggers in 100k spins. That's not really profitable, is it. Not to mention that you would need to do a 8 level Marty twice. With $1 base unit, it would require a bankroll of $6560 to make $1041 profit on this particular set of 100k spins.

I know it's pretty basic stuff, but I've spent way too much time trying to create systems based on "rare" events and failed every time.

Tha ms ATI. Very imformative