Testing zone

[Foolwise]

Had a read of GUT. Very very interesting. I am thinking of running my tests on the way I would like to play these. I will try to post them as and when I test them. I am playing live wheels on betfair live casino.

Session 1



Spin collection

[Foolwise]

Session 2


Spinsets

[Celticknits]

-Foolwise

The numbers in your listing seem backwards.

Take the first numbers 26 13 21 showing in the first marguee photo.
Isn't the 26 the last number spun?

-Celtic

[Foolwise]

>>>>>>>The numbers in your listing seem backwards.

Take the first numbers 26 13 21 showing in the first marguee photo.
Isn't the 26 the last number spun?

-Celtic

These are not just paper tests, they are real money tests done using real cash in betfair live casino.

The first marquee photo, you are right that 26 is the last number spun. So if you see my small app, it is showing 22, 16.....21, 13, 26 as the first set of 10 spins in green column. First screenshot is the first set of 10 spins. Second screenshot is spin numbers from 11-20. 28, 31......11, 7. I played two sessions today and both of them in +. I need to see how my initial bankroll of 500 takes me. If I lose that, I will put one more 500. If I lose that then good bye to this method.

[Celticknits]

>>>>>>>The numbers in your listing seem backwards.

Take the first numbers 26 13 21 showing in the first marguee photo.
Isn't the 26 the last number spun?

-Celtic

These are not just paper tests, they are real money tests done using real cash in betfair live casino.

The first marquee photo, you are right that 26 is the last number spun. So if you see my small app, it is showing 22, 16.....21, 13, 26 as the first set of 10 spins in green column. First screenshot is the first set of 10 spins. Second screenshot is spin numbers from 11-20. 28, 31......11, 7. I played two sessions today and both of them in +. I need to see how my initial bankroll of 500 takes me. If I lose that, I will put one more 500. If I lose that then good bye to this method.

-Foolwise

Thank you for the carification.

-Celtic

[Foolwise]

Had a worse session just now and recovered. Will post the details soon.

[The General]

How many spins have you tested?  (Actual simulated bets placed.)

[Foolwise]

>>>>>>>>>>>How many spins have you tested?  (Actual simulated bets placed.)
Not much. I have just started testing. Only three sessions played. The placed bets are under 100.

If you are trying to say this is not much and house edge will catch you over long term, it is alright. Dont bother, as I understand that. Let us put it this way, there is everyone who is talking about GUT and KTF and WTF  - WTF?. My intention is to do my own testing rather than mathematical simulation to see whether am as lucky as everyone who is playing it.

There is a company called embrace. It has a famous story behind it. The challenge for the founder was to find a cheap cost incubator in Nepal. What she did was discovered embrace which addressed the problem which was hidden rather than just focusing on a delivering a cheap incubator. The point is if I am doing a mathematical simulation, I know where I will end and I have half proof that it will work based on law of large numbers. As I am failing to get a full proof, I want to simulate the tests and see whether I can substantiate my half proof. I am using this forum as a recording medium, as I dont want myself to modify my tests influenced by current results.

Those who are not interested in test results can visit the thread once in a while to see those nice pictures of dealers from a very attractive angle.

[The General]

You're absolutely wasting your time with the hand testing.

Why don't you just have someone code this for you so you test statically relevant sample sizes?

[Foolwise]

>>>>>>>>You're absolutely wasting your time with the hand testing.
For a person earning 1000$ a second, spending a second to kneel and pick up a 100$ note that accidentally fell from hand is waste of time. For a person earning 1000$ a month, he will run behind that 100$ note and jump into a river to fetch it spending a whole day is not a waste of time. Lets leave it there, as both of us are strangers and we do not know what is a waste of time for each other.

>>>>>>>Why don't you just have someone code this for you so you test statically relevant sample sizes?
I agree with what you are saying. Two possibilities. I code this myself. I have already half done it as you can see from the screenshot. The rest of the coding is going to take significantly longer time than me testing 100 sessions. Considering I will be doing other parallel bets as well during this testing. Second possibility is explaining someone what to code and the coder understanding what to code. Now that is a tougher one. I bet that two way interaction is going to take more time than playing 200 sessions.