sequence of 123. computer savvy testers with many real wheel spins needed

[RouletteGhost]

I have a request

If you are computer savvy, and have real wheel spins in excel

Can you run a test to see how many times dozen sequence 123 happens back to back

Or is that too hard to do

I know i couldnt do it. Pen and paper for me

[nottophammer]

General
Rg has asked someone to test 123. Now your the kiddie for this, must be simple for you to do,you have offered in other post to code i believe.
To me you dont need to test something for a million spins.
Lets take KTF, you'd only need 60spins, no wait perhaps 74 spins, 2 cycles of 37. Now could you test 74 spins, then let 24 groups of 74 spins pass before using 74 spins to see if  KTF makes the £50/+50 then repeat the sequence again and again. The break in the spins would be more like how KTF uses the Jackpot247.com spins.
So how you going to say the above idea is wrong.
Well you'll likely to say it can just use 74 spins then use the next 74 spins, but this would not be how KTF works, theres a break in the spins on the auto airball machine of 24 hrs. Also the rule does say move to a different stream of 37 due numbers,if you are going to continue betting, thus the continuous single stream is not what KTF is about.
So a single continuous string of numbers is not going to show how KTF turns out, win or bust?

Over to you General.

[FreeRoulette]

I have a request

If you are computer savvy, and have real wheel spins in excel

Can you run a test to see how many times dozen sequence 123 happens back to back

Or is that too hard to do

I know i couldnt do it. Pen and paper for me

I can make a program to do this. I would provide you a text box to test your own numbers.

[RouletteGhost]

Credit goes to ATI:


, I've check the same thing on 100k live spins.
These are the stats for the 123 dozen pattern.

123 - 3397 times
123 1 - 1041 times
123 12 - 339 times
123 123 - 126 times
123 123 1 - 43 times
123 123 12 - 16 times
123 123 123 - 8 times
123 123 123 1 - 2 times
123 123 123 12 - 2 times
123 123 123 123 - 0 times

[FreeRoulette]

Now you know 4 times in a row is unlikely, how can you take advantage of that?

[RouletteGhost]

If i only knew that lol

Looooong wait time

I did notice in zumma something very interesting:

After dozen sequence 1 2 3 i have never seen that followed by column sequence ABC. Yet......

[FreeRoulette]

Difficult

[RouletteGhost]

What i been doing on steves game roulette players dot org is i use a 6 step double dozen progression

Its crazy and i would not use it in real life but i want to see how far i can get

I bet against 123 doz sequence.
If i lose i bet against ABC column sequence.

[3Nine]

The 1212 pattern in quads shows often.  Any stats on this? (Or 1414, 1313, etc)

[ati]

Here are the numbers for the next 200k single zero live spins from the same database. I have also attached the word file that contains the 200k spins converted to dozens, so you can simply use the search function in Word, to find patterns.

123 - 6905 times
123 1 - 2198 times
123 12 - 707 times
123 123 - 216 times
123 123 1 - 68 times
123 123 12 - 19 times
123 123 123 - 11 times
123 123 123 1 - 4 times
123 123 123 12 - 1 times
123 123 123 123 - 0 times

[RouletteGhost]

So we DO have a limit.....

[RouletteGhost]

Bet against 123 with progression

When you hit a 123 sequence and lose the 3 steps immediately bet against ABC column

[ati]

You should see something else here.
The probability of winning on a single dozen is ≈33%.

Now you have 123 pattern 6905 times. So 6905 times you will bet on dozen 1 for the pattern to repeat, and you win 2198 times. 2198 out of 6905 equals to 31.83%.

Going further.
You have 123 1 pattern 2198 times. So 2198 times you bet on dozen 2 for the 123 pattern to repeat, and you win 707 times. 707 out of 2198 equals to 32.16%.

216/707=30.55%

Sorry, I'm not good at explaining things, and I'm not really good at math, just trying to demonstrate what you have probably heard a million times. The odds never change, spins are always independent, patterns are just illusions, etc.

[Tamino]

Never mind   the probability index  I get my ass   away  from the table when I have won 10 %.

[Steve]

i only just recently published free software to do that. but you will find the answer doesnt matter. why has been explained many times