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[Steve]

Try deleting your browser cache and try again

[Steve]

Small change done,  try now

[Blood Angel]

Small change done,  try now

Seems ok now, thank you.

[Kattila]

*** Try deleting your browser cache and try again**

I did it, but still  not ok.
Only can watch , and when i place bets and arrive to  0 s ,
remain there at 0 sec. * Frozen*  ...the second part

[Steve]

It seems to work for others. But i' just cleaning p the database. I'm removing inactive accounts so try again in about 20 mins if you have trouble.

[Steve]

I've just deleted all the completely inactive accounts. The effect of this is Priyanka who was only just ranked 1st is now 14th.

I've already published the algorithm being used. Basically what it does is:

The more you bet and the more spins you play compared to everyone else, the more relevant your win rate becomes.

So if you have a high win rate but havent played anywhere near as anyone else, the algorithm considers your win rate quite irrelevant. But if you have been doing consistently well over a large amount of spins and bets, then you will rank higher.

Some players still dont understand this: short term results mean nothing. 500 spins is nothing. 1,000 spins is nothing. After around 10,000 spins it starts to be something. If you need proof, just test on roulette xtreme. How often can you get a win rate above 3.0 when you've bet around 500 spins? You could probably do it around 1 in 15 attempts. Correlating it to the leaderboard, Priyanka who currently has around 500 spins has a high win rate. He's around 1 in 20 or so people who have achieved this. It is all within statistical norms. Im not saying Priyanka has a good or bad system. I'm saying the results at this stage are meaningless.

In order to rank higher, a player could just play lots and maybe get a 1.1 win rate. And if they play more than other players with a 1.1 win rate, they'll rank higher. Now if you have played only a bit more than others with the same win rate, and you have a slightly lower win rate, you are likely to still be above the others with the same win rate, but not by much.

So the algorithm encourages people to play a statistically relevant number of spins. How statistically relevant? It depends on the statistical relevance of stats from other players.

Players need to stop thinking in terms of short term. It is meaningless. Almost everything in roulette, or any gambling game, is long term.

Does Priyanka have the best system? Only by playing enough spins can the truth be known.

What I may do with the algorithm is cap the spins played and bets made values at particular values, so continued play wont give you an unfair advantage. For example if you had a 1.1 win rate with 1,000,000 wagered, and another player had the same win rate but with 9,000,0000,000 wagered then they would rank much higher than you. It would be fair though because their system will have proven to last longer. And until you prove your system over the same amount of spins, you wont beat them. but the problem with capping the values as I mentioned, is what if a player gets lucky after 1,000 spins with a high win rates, then just stops playing while others continue to prove their system wins long term? In that case, a person with a genuine long term winning system would be disadvantaged.

So we'll just see how the algorithm goes. So far I agree with the rankings and they appear correct and fair.

[Steve]

Turbo we're adding the numbers of spins to the leaderboard shortly..

[Steve]

Having thought about the algorithm more, the only fair system comparison between two people is the same amount of spins, and same amount wagered. So if we had a tournament or any serious comparison, then entrants would simply stop when they'd played the minimum number of spins and amount wagered. The further up the top of the leaderboard, the more accurate the rankings become. Really though we should only be concerned with the top 5 or so.

And to clarify one more thing, Priyanka dropped because all the accounts with 0 bet and 0 spins were deleted. So then the server made the average values much higher, and people with comparatively few bets and spins dropped.

[RouletteGhost]

Ive bet almost a million

Thats pretty long term

And im up

[Steve]

I need to be direct about it rg, you have under 1,000 spins which is nothing. Just test random bets with roulette xtreme for 1,000 spins and you'll find often you'll be clearly ahead.

[Steve]

See below test i just did, with random in-built system with roulette extreme. See how volatile the bankroll is over even several thousand spins? I go from win rates of 1, to 0.5 to 3 or more all very quickly. Short term tests cannot tell you anything. The best way to test a system is with automated software or custom programs. If you test a system at the table with real money, you'll go broke and then realize the system didnt work.

link:s://:.youtube.com/v/PUOJK30kZWA

[The General]

It would be entertaining to see who can lose the most as well. 

Let's see if anybody can lose at a rate that exceeds expectation.

@Steve,

How is the rng seeded in this game?

[Steve]

It runs a text file of real spins my players upload to another server. I just took the larger profiles from players I know better and joined them.

It can do rng too, either rng numbers in a text file from random.org or from the server. I dont know how the server is seeding the rng, it would just be the default. But it's running the text file explained above anyway. When it approaches the end of the file, I replace it with another. But as it is now it's nowhere near the end.

[Kattila]

Ok now, at least works with Mozilla Firefox now.  Doesn t work on Chrome anymore but not really matter

[Steve]

It works in Chrome for me. Clear your cache.