Multiplayer roulette ready

[TurboGenius]

For example of how this isn't too realistic -
The player at #1 (I'm assuming) played 1 spin and won using large bets. They only bet 1000 and now have +3,600.00
and winrate of +3.6
No one who is there playing now can catch that. It's impossible.
You could say that someone could do this in reality and then never go to the casino again - which would be a fair argument.

In the end though, anyone over 0 winrate is a winner - but again the number of spins played is incredibly important if you want to know the difference between something that works long-term or a person that played once and won.

[Priyanka]

lol.

Well spotted. But pun intended. 


I am open to give away a prize money every month for 50 or 100 GBp within specific defined rules if it increases participation letting people really think about more laterally ok how to beat this rather than mulling over the same things again and again.

[TurboGenius]

Well spotted. But pun intended. 


I am open to give away a prize money every month for 50 or 100 GBp within specific defined rules if it increases participation letting people really think about more laterally ok how to beat this rather than mulling over the same things again and again.

Absolutely. Well said.

[Drazen]

I cant see anything better then return on investment after number of placed bets as the main criteria. And that can be shown in a graph too.

So of course it would bee good to set minimum number for marking like 50 or 100 bets and then continue with marks on 300, 500, 1000, 5000 etc...

And all that can be categorized on a week, month, or year basis.

Number of bankroll resets should be also nicely highlighted.

First you look on number of placed bets and then on ROI. It tells you all... Then you look at graph and see how strong turbulences were and it is perfectly enough to see who is who.

Cheers

[Kattila]

And why some have even 3 accounts ? like vitalij ( i see 3 accounts). Why this is allowed ?

[Rplayer7]

I believe that it is very important that the player shows the results of the game exceeding the size of mathematical expectation of winning. In European roulette the probability of winning of a player is equal to 47,3% in accordance with the rules of the game. If the player a long period of the game shows a result higher than 47,3% it can be considered that player the winner.
For example: the player bets on 6 numbers and played 111 spins and won 20 spins. And on the mathematical calculations he was to win in 18 spins. So the result of the player is higher than the calculated probability of winning. Such a player can be considered as the winner.
Still need to multiply by the length of a successful game session. The longer the game, the harder it is to win in roulette. 
My knowledge of English language is not good so I use a translator.

[maestro]

Steve would it be possible to put some indication when spins are from real roulette or Rng one...if possible..thanks

[INTERCEPTOR]

And why some have even 3 accounts ? like vitalij ( i see 3 accounts). Why this is allowed ?

Good question, I think this guy is biggest loser of all time, thats why he made 3 accounts.

[Steve]

* multiple usernames will manually be removed. Ill do this in time.

* i will develop an algorithm to better rank players. It will be based on amount of spins played, amount wagered, total won, total lost, and win rate. It will be designed to give higher rank to players that are winning consistently. The algorithm would be fully transparent. Short term lucky wins wont rank.

* There are laws that prevent competitions without license. But if prize amounts are kept low its ok. Perhaps a situation where entrants submit a fee to the pool, then the winner takes all. I need to look into the laws more. Im not interested in commission, but would deduct paypal fees.

* Win rate of 1.000000 is break even. Anything above is profit.

[TurboGenius]

* multiple usernames will manually be removed. Ill do this in time.

* i will develop an algorithm to better rank players. It will be based on amount of spins played, amount wagered, total won, total lost, and win rate. It will be designed to give higher rank to players that are winning consistently. The algorithm would be fully transparent. Short term lucky wins wont rank.

* There are laws that prevent competitions without license. But if prize amounts are kept low its ok. Perhaps a situation where entrants submit a fee to the pool, then the winner takes all. I need to look into the laws more. Im not interested in commission, but would deduct paypal fees.

* Win rate of 1.000000 is break even. Anything above is profit.

Don't forget - (not sure if you factored this in or not) that the initial bankroll has to be taken into account. If you start people at 1,000.00 then that 1k isn't counted in or calculated in as winnings.
If someone plays and ends up at +2k then they are 1k in profit over the 'casino'.
I only mention it because some people think that starting with 1k means that they already have 1k in winnings - and that throws the math off.

[TurboGenius]

There are laws that prevent competitions without license. But if prize amounts are kept low its ok. Perhaps a situation where entrants submit a fee to the pool, then the winner takes all. I need to look into the laws more. Im not interested in commission, but would deduct paypal fees.

Let me know when you work it out - I'll throw in a cash prize for the winner, if it ends up being me - then it would go to whoever is in 2nd.

[Steve]

With my specifications to the programmer, start bankroll is irrelevant because it uses amount bet vs amount won.

[TurboGenius]

With my specifications to the programmer, start bankroll is irrelevant because it uses amount bet vs amount won.

ok

[Steve]

The algorithm for the leaderboard I've designed is in the attached PDF.

Basically the more a player has bet, and the more spins they have bet on, the more relevant their "win rate" becomes. If you've bet less than the averages, your "rank score" will be lower than if you had bet more than the averages. So the effect is unless you have a spectacularly high win rate, short term wins wont put you at the top of the leaderboard. You'll need to have played long enough, and more enough bets with good results that are "as statistically relevant as other players".

Before the programmer starts work, let's have some feedback on it. Let me know asap as i'll send the specs to the programmer within 8 or so hours from now.

[Steve]

With the new ranking algorithm (without knowing amount of spins played), the approximate new top 20 will be below. The number next to each name shows the previous rank:

17   KTFPissa
21   Normy2000
24   Vitalij_D
29   FreeRoulette
30   Wally Gator
31   maestro
32   tomla
38   foolwise
39   sniper
40   Rplayer7
43   psimoes
35   RouletteGhost
44   ewarwoowar
26   turbogenius
10   kattila
20   maddanny
41   ozzi43
34   plolp
15   MumboJumbo
46   JimmieB

There are cases where a player's win rate isnt great, but they still get a reasonable rank. Also the reverse is true, where a player can have great success but not a great rank, because they havent played much. This is a side effect, but not necessarily bad because it encourages players to play a sufficient amount of time to have their success properly ranked. Most importantly, if you play long enough and have the best results over the longer term, you'll rank at the top. And that's what we want.