Juggler FINAL

[Turner]

I know turner probably doesnt want me to interject

This is where we differ. Its a free forum where everyone has the right to speak without being ganged up on and lampooned.

I welcome people challenging me. I could be wrong after all.

Especially when I am up against long term members like Priyanka and Tomola.

The respect is there without thinking about it.....and is well earned

[Drazen]

I welcome people challenging me.

I am just increasing on MY winning number. The key is in the word MY.

Especially when I am up against long term members like Priyanka and Tomola.

Once upon on a time Flatinos young apprentice asked him if he has the Grail.. He said: "No I dont. But remember, no one reveals his strongest weapon".

I wonder was the old man dead right, why I couldnt anyhow digest your sandwich Turner?

Cheers

[Turner]

Once upon on a time Flatinos young apprentice asked him if he has the Grail.. He said: "No I dont. But remember, no one reveals his strongest weapon".

I wonder was the old man dead right, why I couldnt anyhow digest your sandwich Turner?

Cheers

Too much mustard.

[Priyanka]

I am just increasing on MY winning number. The key is in the word MY.

Ah!! So the past spins is really no "past" spins. It is more of personal permanence. Will you consider that as a good inference?

[Priyanka]

You can bet it because it hit or bet it just because.
Doesnt matter. Same odds.

RG - It is a bit more complicated than that and not that straightforward. Odds for the next spin is always the same. But the odds for a spin set in consideration taken collectively could be very different depending on the plan you select for your betting.

[Turner]

Ah!! So the past spins is really no "past" spins. It is more of personal permanence. Will you consider that as a good inference?

I couldn put it any better than that

[maestro]

i could not resist the question...when we know that in 37 spins no 37 numbers coming why probability say of 12 numbers goes 12/37 why not 12/average of hits in cicle then you will be whitin upper and lower limit of probability depends how many numbers hit

[Drazen]

I couldn put it any better than that

Personal permanence is pure voodoo and you know it !   

Such  irrationality is not what looks like you at all and again, you know it.

Cheers

[Turner]

Personal permanence is pure voodoo and you know it !   

Such  irrationality is not what looks like you at all and again, you know it.

Cheers

Relax....its not serious like Ive just told you I am supporting Man United.

But I do have to support this idea to truly test it. Like method acting

[maestro]

Turner idea for personal permanence sounds to me like...if i walk in one side of the lake and you did the same on the other side one of us will be more wet than the other...one of us could be in deeper but not wetter...

[maestro]

but if you refer to when and what you see and how you deal with it then is personal

[Priyanka]

Relax....its not serious like Ive just told you I am supporting Man United.

Turner at his best.
A win would have been really nice yesterday, but two away goals was not bad considering PSG were less than odds on favourite.

Personal permanence is pure voodoo and you know it !   

Drazen - Why do you think it is voodoo. Do you think if I play every other spin, or I play 1 spin from every table in the casino one after the other, it is not going to give me the results I expect as against playing in the same wheel continuously. It is the reality of randomness and not voodoo.

i could not resist the question...when we know that in 37 spins no 37 numbers coming why probability say of 12 numbers goes 12/37 why not 12/average of hits in cicle then you will be whitin upper and lower limit of probability depends how many numbers hit

Hmmm, excellent question.  That is the difference between considering the odds of next spin and odds of what happens in the next set of spins. The odds of next spin will always remain 12/37 as you always have 37 possibilities to choose from. Whereas in the next set of spins, the odds of achieving 37 different numbers is always less than achieving 24 different numbers. When you know the "exact" spins that will hit in the cycle, then you can ofcourse apply 12/number of hits, however, you will never know the "exact" spins that will hit in the cycle.

[Turner]

Turner idea for personal permanence sounds to me like...if i walk in one side of the lake and you did the same on the other side one of us will be more wet than the other...one of us could be in deeper but not wetter...

Or....if I look out the window and its raining....am I getting wet?. Is it raining for me personally.

[Drazen]

Drazen - Why do you think it is voodoo. Do you think if I play every other spin, or I play 1 spin from every table in the casino one after the other, it is not going to give me the results I expect as against playing in the same wheel continuously. It is the reality of randomness and not voodoo.

Hm.. Maybe you are right and I dont understand the term correct? But personal permanence for me would be betting without completely mechanical rules where one or more bets would be based only on ones thought or gut or feeling to say so. Something like attempt of riding the trends? Like you try to anticipate by feeling when one trend ends and another one starts. I think that is quite different from what you described. In case what you said I consider it would be the same playing 100 spins on 100 different wheels spin by spin, as 100 spins on one wheel continuously. Random sequence is always random, no matter how we split the spins.

Hope I was clear enough?

[maestro]

your neighbour Turner getting personal rain too...he might or not get wet