If it's not rocket science it must be maths

[nottophammer]

Okay 2 games, same supplier,different shops. we're looking at game 2, But game 1 +3.25 should been more but some old boy telling me when he was in vegas so i only had 2units on 23rd spin,

So Ladbrokes now
What you're looking at is the marquee, you should see #10 my 1st spin at the top. Why so interested,well past spins,let you boys argue that one, but me i'm watching.
To be watching i have to cheap spin, 6D/S, and you can see the FOBT gave a zero so knicked £1.50, why watching the 12 unique #'s in the margin, well,they must repeat sometime? you can see 18 in box 7,no repeat of the #'s in the margin and no repeat of my 1st 6 spins,so we bet the 18 #'s win. must be rocket science, the margin #'s i mark in my spins with a dot. back to just watching and the margin repeat again, but that dont matter, as i've my lost money by zero back and more.
As the margin have repeated 3 times in spins 1-10, plus #16 repeated making spins 1-10, 9/10, spin 11 i do not fancy so just watch, the right choice,margin repeated a lot, and only once in spins 1-10,so it looks like this could be a repeat game, unlike spins 11-20 in corals, game 1, 10,+5.
Trot/count watchers know what i'm on about

Forgot the sheet and know nextyear likes a good story

[nottophammer]

So we bet at spin 12, why, because in the average document we, well atleast i know that non-hits upto the 19th non-hit to hit, is average of 2 spins to come in, win.
Now just watch. Should really gone for the 13th and 14th, but its just watch, 50/50, trot/count. So spins 11-20 5,+0
With the trot average and 15th non-hit late,i bet 23 units,win.
Back to watch,i should really go to the B+M it would not cost to just watch.

[nottophammer]

We see whilst watching 5 non-hit come in, yes its spin 25, so think what info the wise old winkel gave, the >1x's have to rise,so bet the 1x's, win out the door.

[nottophammer]

Good read for every body on how to play on RNG 

[NextYear]

Thanks Notto, long time since I had a chance to read an illustrated story!

[JSG240592]

I can see this strategy is not as simple as one first thinks. I will have to spend a few days to analyse as I am confused with the 'waiting' I'm not sure what triggers your looking for and what bet progression you are using. I tried this earlier in ladbrookes but on the main roulette game (not the one in your pictures) I won the first 3spins and then had 3 repaters in a row.

[nottophammer]

Are you using original roulette which has .20p units. I use Roulette game that uses .25p units.
Just put 31 #'s up from ladbrokes in GUT 2.0

[tuddilue]

I can see this strategy is not as simple as one first thinks. I will have to spend a few days to analyse as I am confused with the 'waiting' I'm not sure what triggers your looking for and what bet progression you are using. I tried this earlier in ladbrookes but on the main roulette game (not the one in your pictures) I won the first 3spins and then had 3 repaters in a row.

If you want to understand this you will have a great journey ahead of you.
In this example you have much GUT because notto is a watcher as he says. But he also references to KTF and WTF.
So the journey for you:
1. KTF thread. Betting unhits. Here you can read straight forward rules. Just look for celticknight posts. Try learn how the sheets is written..
2. WTF thread. Betting repeats. Here you must understand KTF and also start to look up the GUT, nr 3 below. But you can start with reading my one hit wonder post.
3. GUT, if you have time start with this. Otherwise it will grow on you  You can read winkels original thread over at vlsroulette. Notto is refering to GUT 2.0 thread. Someone is selling the GUT, it is not winkel... The tracking and numbers that notto is refering to comes from this. Example 13 and 25...

Yes some hints. If you start in this order you should learn the same way I did...
Good luck and of course just ask questions!

[nottophammer]

To the General
No looking for a bias on here, here you have to do what the Guvnor Winkel showed, watch the trot. 2 different machines, in fact different shops, 1 hour in total, better than minimum wage in UK.

A few new members will do to read and study GUT.

[The General]

Sorry, but it's nothing more than a random fluctuation.    I wish I could tell you that it would work, but it won't, and can't for obvious reasons.  One our of play is meaningless.

Best of luck,

The General.

[winkel]

Sorry, but it's nothing more than a random fluctuation.    I wish I could tell you that it would work, but it won't, and can't for obvious reasons.  One our of play is meaningless.

Best of luck,

The General.

Just a simple question to the General:

If we start watching a wheel and we make an 0 for every unhit number (37 0s) and we cross that 0 when a number has hit 0:
Will there be a situation where we have 19 unhits ( means 0s) and 18 hits (means 0)?
Could we say that the count from 37 to 19 could go on and end at 0?
Could we say that the count of hits will go from 0 to 37?
If we only watch the situation 19 0 vs 180, could we say IT MUST CROSS TO 18 0 vs 19 0?
Is this forced by nature of the game to happen or is it a such rare event, that we couldn´t bet on this to happen?
Is that a math-fact or is it a lie or a trick?

If we have this proven, could we transfer our knowledge to other situations than 0 vs 0?

[denzie]

Damn how could I not see this ... just checked 200 sessions.  Betting  1 time only after the crossing.  +33 (flatbet)

it goes very slowly up.
I have 3000 sessions now. Most virtual from wiesbaden. So I'll check to see how that goes.

This is normal or just luck? @Winkel

[PeaBea65]

Just a simple question to the General:

If we start watching a wheel and we make an 0 for every unhit number (37 0s) and we cross that 0 when a number has hit 0:
Will there be a situation where we have 19 unhits ( means 0s) and 18 hits (means 0)?
Could we say that the count from 37 to 19 could go on and end at 0?
Could we say that the count of hits will go from 0 to 37?
If we only watch the situation 19 0 vs 180, could we say IT MUST CROSS TO 18 0 vs 19 0?
Is this forced by nature of the game to happen or is it a such rare event, that we couldn´t bet on this to happen?
Is that a math-fact or is it a lie or a trick?

If we have this proven, could we transfer our knowledge to other situations than 0 vs 0?

The fact you never got an answer from the General Winkel, is an answer in itself.