Something I *THINK* got from Priyankas thread

[TurboGenius]

Yes!!!

[psimoes]

Everytime I read one of RG´s systems I feel tempted to chime in and say "it won´t work", "every mechanical system is a long term loser", "there is no such thing as a Holy Grail" etc etc but in RG´s defense I think he already knows that. He just likes gambling methods and seems to be aware of the risks involved, so guys cut him some slack.

[Steve]

RG, again I've read through the entire thread. Caleb entered the thread with facts. You started name calling. You even posted the video about the four lettered word that starts with "C" and ends with "T" and has the initials of the "United Nations" in the middle.... And then you complained that it was allowed. You complained about your own post.

A summary on Caleb:

* He can be abrupt about what should be simple facts. I think this is necessary for some people to understand, although not everyone cares about facts.

* He gives unwelcome information and conflicting views. Its really not that uncommon on forums.

* His posts tend to start out without attitude. But they turn to more poke fun at people that get bitter with him, and refuse to acknowledge facts. This is where he's different to someone else who may point out facts. Instead of just leaving it alone and saying "go make your millions", he'll continue to present facts and adds attitude. Like in this case, he was called names so do you really expect no response? But his way of responding is not to call names. It is more calm facts, with a condescending attitude, and he knows it irritates people.

You know what he's saying is actually very basic stuff every player needs to know. At times he has been a troll, and he has been banned previously. But at least for now he is not breaking rules. He is not trolling. He gives unwelcome but accurate information. He didnt call anyone names, whereas RG you did. As far as I can see, he was being a nuisance to you by explaining facts on your thread. And I've offered you the new section so you arent bothered by him anymore. You are even able to ignore a member so you never even see their posts.

As I see it, Caleb needs to stay out of discussions when it's clear his posts arent welcome by the majority of people in the discussion. There's nothing wrong with contributing if just one other member doesnt want the advice. You cannot own a thread unless it is a private area. It is a public forum. But it is more productive to help people who actually want help. I know sometimes Caleb derives satisfaction from pointing out facts that he knows nobody can refute. It is probably for entertainment. But it only becomes entertainment when you start having a go at him. At least he's not calling people names.

My advice is learn to work around people you dont agree with. You wont agree with everyone here. You will find people you dont like or agree with everywhere in life. Learn to deal with it. If someone gives unwelcome or conflicting information, either refute it with facts, or ignore the person. Or even post in the private area. If someone is being a pest for whatever reason, there is always a simple way of dealing with it as I explained.

[Turner]

Nice post Steve...it took time.

But....the point is this.

Its not information....its preaching
Door to door preaching at that

If you stood up in church and started saying " There is no God" everytime someone spoke you would upset everyone and be ejected.
Now....if you got a soap box and stood on it in the Park and said the same thing, It wouldnt be stopped....people would walk past or stop to listen.

Whats the point of going into a church and saying that over and over?
Wrong audience

Listen...I may be in that church for one reason or another and actually agree with the guy but I would still be irritated by it.
I can see why poeple still see him as a troll. I know his MO

[Steve]

Turner yes I understand your point, but religion is different to mathematical fact. I know he puts his nose where it isnt wanted though, and he knows it irritates people. but at the same time it is important to understand basic roulette facts. The solution? People can use a separate area, ignore him and others like him etc. RG got way too worked up over it. He needed to only ignore Caleb, and if he persisted, then he needed to only let me know because persistently posting in threads where others members are getting annoyed is trolling. Its really a fine line though. Its not like he was posting irrelevant and inaccurate information. People have the right to not want to know certain things. But if fact was banned just because the publisher was a bit condescending and annoying, then it would be a slow progressing world.

[RouletteGhost]

I could care less if what he says is fact

I am a recreational player

And thats how i want to play

Steve you act like i am a flat earther with my ears closed to the truth. Thats annoying as well

If i want to play patterns even if there is no mathematical sense i dont need to hear it from you or him 3 times a day.

I know the facts. But as a recreational player. I Dont Care.

You act like im some idiot who is scared of facts

I know the roulette facts. Its very basic

[MumboJumbo]

I think only me and RG will survive 10 000 spins, me first place and RG second.✭ ✭

[Steve]

I know the facts. But as a recreational player. I Dont Care.

That's fine. Nobody can tell your what your motivates are for playing roulette.

The problem is you have been saying things about roulette that just arent true. And people naturally want to correct you. After all, thats what we all do on forums. We discuss, and facts are a big part of it. Just one example is saying roulette has limits. That's just not the case and Caleb was asking for proof of your claims. He's allowed to do that. And you have the right to say "I'll do and believe my own thing".

[Steve]

So, no ban 4 the c**t song ? Well this is my last "report to moderator" gl

Yes you're right. 7 day ban.

[winkel]

RG, again I've read through the entire thread. Caleb entered the thread with facts. ...

A summary on Caleb:
* He can be abrupt about what should be simple facts. I think this is necessary for some people to understand, although not everyone cares about facts.
* He gives unwelcome information and conflicting views. Its really not that uncommon on forums.
* His posts tend to start out without attitude. But they turn to more poke fun at people that get bitter with him, and refuse to acknowledge facts. This is where he's different to someone else who may point out facts. Instead of just leaving it alone and saying "go make your millions", he'll continue to present facts and adds attitude. Like in this case, he was called names so do you really expect no response? But his way of responding is not to call names. It is more calm facts, with a condescending attitude, and he knows it irritates people.
You know what he's saying is actually very basic stuff every player needs to know. At times he has been a troll, and he has been banned previously. But at least for now he is not breaking rules. He is not trolling. He gives unwelcome but accurate information. He didnt call anyone names, whereas RG you did. As far as I can see, he was being a nuisance to you by explaining facts on your thread. And I've offered you the new section so you arent bothered by him anymore. You are even able to ignore a member so you never even see their posts.
As I see it, Caleb needs to stay out of discussions when it's clear his posts arent welcome by the majority of people in the discussion. There's nothing wrong with contributing if just one other member doesnt want the advice. You cannot own a thread unless it is a private area. It is a public forum. But it is more productive to help people who actually want help. I know sometimes Caleb derives satisfaction from pointing out facts that he knows nobody can refute. It is probably for entertainment. But it only becomes entertainment when you start having a go at him. At least he's not calling people names.
My advice is learn to work around people you dont agree with. You wont agree with everyone here. You will find people you dont like or agree with everywhere in life. Learn to deal with it. If someone gives unwelcome or conflicting information, either refute it with facts, or ignore the person. Or even post in the private area. If someone is being a pest for whatever reason, there is always a simple way of dealing with it as I explained.

Hi Steve,

what you didn´t see is: If this man caleb, (snowman, herb, xander or what his actual name may be) always pick a good contributor to the forum and makes him leave.

As long as you don´t see and realize this fact, you do allow him to ruin your business.

If he woul only tell facts, why does he has to use several names changing the name nearly every week?

If you also wanna persuade people not to play roulette, why do you sell then your tools?
Will you say, that your a liar? Do you betray your customers?

Even if a rouletteforum ist just rubish talk shouldn´t it be allowed and undisturbed?
Nothing else has caleb in mind: disturb! There is no education!

[The General]

Winkel,

Posting facts and opinions on a public forum are not attacks.

I'm sorry if you believe otherwise.

[winkel]

Winkel,

Posting facts and opinions on a public forum are not attacks.

I'm sorry if you believe otherwise.

Your next possible name: Father McKenzie

"Writing a preach for a sermon that nobody wants to hear"

Impressing "Eleanor Rigby" The Beatles

[The General]

Your next possible name: Father McKenzie

"Writing a preach for a sermon that nobody wants to hear"

Impressing "Eleanor Rigby" The Beatles

How about  Father Guido Sarducci ? 

[Tomla021]

ooops Priyanka is over 1000 spins and at 3.1 on the win rate----maybe its time for people to appreciate that instead of being so negative. Its by far the best thing I have ever seen.. still early to tell but a joy to watch till now

[The General]

How many spins where bets were actually placed?