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Unhit Numbers, KTF, And Other Bad Bets

Started by The General, May 03, 01:18 PM 2016

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Turner

Quote from: Priyanka on May 03, 02:26 PM 2016I do like to watch the taxi drivers building scale models of NYC on the carpet and loosing their shirt.
That's a nice one.

You know the bobby

curiosone


3Nine

Turbo - what's your profit per spin?  Looking to compare notes.
Do I turn the wheel,
or does the wheel turn me?

TurboGenius

There's too many variables there, I might be on 7 or 8 (or more, or less) numbers with different amounts on each.
I'm looking for a specific profit ($) per session as my goal - not so much how each spin does.
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3Nine

Quote from: TurboGenius on May 03, 03:52 PM 2016
There's too many variables there, I might be on 7 or 8 (or more, or less) numbers with different amounts on each.
I'm looking for a specific profit ($) per session as my goal - not so much how each spin does.

Ok, thanks.
Do I turn the wheel,
or does the wheel turn me?

Celticknits

Quote from: The General on May 03, 01:18 PM 20165. Ignatus has recently come up with some clever quick play methods that chase hot numbers.  Most of his hot number methods are vastly superior to the unhit number systems like the KTF.

-General (Caleb)

Which one of Ignatus hot number methods would you recommend looking at.
You know that I am a great fan of KTF and right now I still only play WTF Repeats because of betting time limitations at my B&M to play KTF but I really would like an answer to my question and I will take a serious look at it/them, compared to KTF.

-Celtic
'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

nottophammer

Quote from: The General on May 03, 01:18 PM 2016The better option is to bet on the numbers that have hit the most and or most recently.
Re: Multiplayer roulette ready
« Reply #423 on: May 01, 2016, 10:07:56 PM »

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Pretty sure I've never seen this in live play
The same number 5 times in 18 spins

So how long does one stand looking at the wheel going round, 1 hour, 1/2 a day, the whole day geez.
I'll do it my way thanks, and on the mickey mouse roulette.

How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

JSG240592

Since looking into the KTF system (personally I think this method would be most efficient for watching when to bet eg: after 2 or 3 repeats start to bet)

I am testing an idea where I watch until 10 unique numbers show and then on the 11th spin I bet those 10 numbers, if I miss I add the new hit number to the bet, so on the 12th spin I'm betting 11numbers and so forth. Adding 1unit for each lose and decreasing 1unit for each win. It seems to work well but I am trying to figure out the best times to bet, progression method etc

I have played roulette for roughly 5years the best win (12.4k) I was playing 7 numbers

12,15,18,21,24,27,30

I used to watch for 10 spins with out one of these numbers showing and then start my bet adding 1unit for each lose.

Got upto 2.5k got greedy and luckily landed 18 with 100 on and it then doubled with 150 on.  Since then my luck with roulette has been none existent. So I would very much like to find a system which turns roulette into a healthy income.

Surely there must be a way we can monitor a certain set of number were none shows can prompt our betting?  I've seen something to do with multiples which I will attach to this comment. 


Roulette is day light robbery if not played with patience and skill I think its about time a few brains come together and mathematically use 'randomness' to defeat roulette
This time next year rodney we'll be millionaires

thelaw

Not sure that biased wheels exist in any number to actually be a practical method of play long-term.

If so, then any inefficiencies could be exploited by a basic progression.........an imbalance is an imbalance.

There were a ton of books written about biased wheels as far back as the 1960s, but the idea went out of fashion after casinos started switching/balancing wheels. I remember reading about entire corporations that were set up just to have a full-time staff to track all available wheels.

Feels like we're talking about Card-Counting single deck Blackjack here...........it exists.....but not for practical play. :thumbsup:
You sir.......are a monster!!!

The General

QuoteNot sure that biased wheels exist in any number to actually be a practical method of play long-term.

Guess again. My team and I set the record for the most won in one setting in North America back in 2010 smack in the middle of the LV strip.   The wheel was less than five years old.

Here's something that you won't read in books.  It's not balancing. It's not so much wear and tear that makes a wheel bias, it's often just piss poor assembly.
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

thelaw

Quote from: The General on May 03, 10:57 PM 2016
Guess again. My team and I set the record for the most won in one setting in North America back in 2010 smack in the middle of the LV strip.   The wheel was less than five years old.

Here's something that you won't read in books.  It's not balancing. It's not so much wear and tear that makes a wheel bias, it's often just piss poor assembly.

Wow!!!

There's a record of all roulette winnings in LV for each year? Where can we find this info? Does Steve know about this? :question:

.......and you say there was 1 table..........back in 2010?  :ooh:

Quick!!!............everyone to LV immediately!!!............wait..........which table is it..........which table General??? :sad2:
You sir.......are a monster!!!

The General

The Law,

Here's a map for ya so you can locate the table and win even more using somethin even more fancy like the reverse labby.  Heck, with somethin like the reverse labby you could own the strip.  Beware of them twins at the gates though, they'll try and fool ya.  They may even try and tell you that your system dont work, but dont believe themz.

Good luck!

And if you start losing, just double up or play random numbers against random.  That always works with the reverse labby.


By the way, be sure to use the Ws and Ls so that you can make your trackin sheet and know exactly whem themz wins are a comin.  ;)

Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

thelaw

Quote from: The General on May 04, 12:05 PM 2016
The Law,

Here's a map for ya so you can locate the table and win even more using somethin even more fancy like the reverse labby.  Heck, with somethin like the reverse labby you could own the strip.  Beware of them twins at the gates though, they'll try and fool ya.  They may even try and tell you that your system dont work, but dont believe themz.

Good luck!

And if you start losing, just double up or play random numbers against random.  That always works with the reverse labby.


By the way, be sure to use the Ws and Ls so that you can make your trackin sheet and know exactly whem themz wins are a comin.  ;)



Wait a minute........now the only biased wheel in LV from 2010 doesn't even exist.............General...........you're killing me here!!! :sad2:
You sir.......are a monster!!!

Turner

Caleb

Just interested.

It seems to me you would have to collect a fair few spins to work out if a wheel was biased.

It also seems to me that the Weisbaden casinos make every spin available for public viewing. Millions of spins.

With all that info, have you ever tried to find a biased wheel at Bremen or hohensyburg?

They must know they leave themselves open to scrutiny. Do they swap the wheels around?

Im sure you already thought about this.


nottophammer

Turner at least our U-21's ended up champions.  :thumbsup:
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

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