"VdW"

[Tomla021]

not being a math guy could anyone explain VdW to me with some egzamples.......Thanks if you care to do so!  It seems to be the rage and I want to come to grips with it

[Nickmsi]

Hi tomla . .

Enclosed is a spreadsheet that shows the VDW in operation.

Hope this helps.

Nick

[RouletteGhost]

[donik7777]

Thank you Nick!

[Turner]

But what help is it?

I mean, Nick gives this example
BBRBRBR is an AP of 3-5-7

But it was already 2-4-6

Its true, there will be at least 1 AP in 9, but it doesnt predict anything along the way

So what do we do?

R R bet red because it will be as VdW predicts
R we win! VdW was a genius
Wrong.

It was just a 50/50 bet and you got lucky.

There will never be a situation where we have 8 results and only one AP will work

It will be 2, and one is red and one is black

Its a magic trick.....sorry     

RRBBRRBB here are 8 with no AP

R gives 1-5-9
B gives 7-8-9
            

[maestro]

i dont know if it works or not but i have read some pdf on Wan der whatever and the way i see it could be better if we dont go for 3 terms progression once you do that then you will be left with only 5 cases to look for


BBRRBBRR...9
RRBBRRBB..9
BBRBBRRB..9
RRBRRBBR..9
BRBBRBRR..9
RBRRBRBB..9
BRBRRBRB..9
RBRBBRBR..9
BRRBBRRB..9
RBBRRBBR..9


SO NONE OF THE ABOVE spins have arithmetic progression and also spin 9 where we got 2 choises so we can get it as loss...so say if you look for sequence with say 4 outcomes and dont have AP we can bet against that pattern to form without arithmetic progression...just a thought

[MoneyT101]

Iv been staring at VDW formation and reading Pri thread and im not where i want to be with the information but my eyes are definitely opening 

Remember Pri is only trying to give us an idea of how to play and what to look for without giving everything away. I will share this with you guys and it might help because its what i was stuck on.

Go through a couple of spins and after any W reset and start a fresh set of VDW.  Manually is easier to see it as you go along. 

VDW is to give you an idea and information...once you have the info you can do with it what you feel is best.

[Drazen]

Dear friends

I think you are not starting from the right angle. With all due respect, even the ones who don't understand what this theorem is about,  probably know that even if they got it, it wont mean anything in that form. So why are you taking it and trying to build a method (preferably winning) in just several strokes with this, and getting angry and doubtful why it is raised when you see that in this form it is pretty trivial?

And that is stressed few times in the thread.

[TurboGenius]

It was just a 50/50 bet and you got lucky.

No, it's amazing - and it's can't be revealed !   lol

Remember Pri is only trying to give us an idea of how to play and what to look for without giving everything away.

All these years on the forum, I can't even count how many times I've seen the same thing - the big secret that can't be revealed.
It's amazing that even after all this time - people still chase the invisible dog around because someone told them it existed.

[MoneyT101]

No, it's amazing - and it's can't be revealed !   lol

All these years on the forum, I can't even count how many times I've seen the same thing - the big secret that can't be revealed.
It's amazing that even after all this time - people still chase the invisible dog around because someone told them it existed.

i havent been long on the forum, im more of a lurker.  I have seen some of the past stories of HG and how they dont reveal it.

But this hast been the case on top of that we all saw some game play and in the multiplayer app results.   I honestly dont think we can compare to the other stories from the past.... just sayin 

[Turner]

can bet against that pattern to form without arithmetic progression

But we cant can we?

There is always at least 1 AP. What could we possibly bet against to make there not be one, when there always is one?

[Drazen]

All these years on the forum, I can't even count how many times I've seen the same thing - the big secret that can't be revealed.

It's amazing that even after all this time - people still chase the invisible dog around because someone told them it existed.

And what about your statements lately?

Why couldnt we justifiably call you out for hypocrisy?

[MoneyT101]

Trust me write it down... You will see when you have to bet against!

[Turner]

All these years on the forum, I can't even count how many times I've seen the same thing - the big secret that can't be revealed.
It's amazing that even after all this time - people still chase the invisible dog around because someone told them it existed.

Im chasing nothing.

I think its just Hocus Pocus

[maestro]

@Turner sorry maybe i was not clear enough...say we get spins like....RBBR now i will bet 4 times FOR arithmetic progression to form so i will bet   BRRB AND IF NOT WIN LAST SPIN IS 9 SO I WILL TAKE THE LOSS..hope it is clear