"VdW"

[The General]

Turner, stop being so dramatic.  Put on your big boy pants.  There's no reason to add more drama to the thread.

It's an open forum.  The real world is much harsher than I am when it comes to gambling systems.

And...do you really know how many scammers are working the PM game here? 

[The General]

I know how to solve this.

Share what is working for you. The most effective solution.

I do. 

[TurboGenius]

Turbo...many thanks......very much appreciated
Can I have your autograph then?

looks for a pen.... wait, I think there's one in the car.....lol

[Bayes]

Perhaps the next step is that the savior will "huff off and leave" with a story about how unfair people are - then the anger turns towards the people who told the truth - how dare we do that - now the savior is gone and it's all our fault ! They were just getting ready to reveal the secrets to their holy grail !

So true. I've seen it time and time again over the years.

Funny how the "teaser" threads always end up like this. I was just checking the forum rules seeing as I've just been made mod again and one in particular stood out:

9. No "baiting", which is where you brag about how great your system is, but you don't share anything except perhaps obscure details that lead people along. The forum is a place for open sharing. If you "bait" people, expect to be banned.

[Bayes]

It's an open forum. 

So it is... or should be.

[Scarface]

I did not look in to details with that patterns but my first thought is:

If it is possible to get a pattern of 8 spins that did not form an AP and that would only allow one color (R or B) to finally form an AP in the 9th spin that would be a sure bet. Even if a long wait was needed.

But I expect there are always potential APs for both colores to form otherwise someone else had come up with that before. So just guesswork again?

R.

I don't think there is ever a situation where just one color has to come up to form an AP.  In my opinion, AP is useless when it comes to gambling since there always will be 2 choices

[The General]

Funny how the "teaser" threads always end up like this. I was just checking the forum rules seeing as I've just been made mod again and one in particular stood out:

. No "baiting", which is where you brag about how great your system is, but you don't share anything except perhaps obscure details that lead people along. The forum is a place for open sharing. If you "bait" people, expect to be banned.

It reminds me of the Numerista and Enigma Sun Square scam on the old VLS forum.  Some of us saw the scam right off, but a high percentage of people were really suckered because of the poor moderation and a lack of common sense.  Now on this forum...they've created a "Safe Zone Nursery" where such posts are not allowed to be criticized.

[sniper]

Please read "Basics the no one wants to hear" in this forum and the other forum
Please read "Roulette - Random - Predictable" in the other forum or copy/paste it here
Please read "CS System" in the other forum as well or copy/paste it here
I won't hijack this thread any further with my comments - it's supposed to be about VdW - whatever that even is.

Hello TurboGenius,

You have been my idol since VIP & GG days. I read everything you posted and tested every system you taught.

I even played some of those system in B&M casinos. You were a very good and patient teacher then.

You answered every question asked and even took the trouble to write software for us to test.

I have read your "Basics that no one want to hear" and "CS" numerous time and still could not understand.

Can you please shed some light so we all at least can learn something from you like in the good old days.

Thanks and regards.

[Bayes]

Yeah it's Turbo's fault. He got me into roulette with his damn 50 Max. 

[The General]

Yeah it's Turbo's fault. He got me into roulette with his damn 50 Max. 

And...Turbo's the reason some people have taken up smoking. 

[Turner]

Turner, stop being so dramatic

Caleb, believe me, I could never care as much as you do that people arnt examining bits of fluff in wheel frets and looking at systems instead.

I really couldnt care less.

But I do care that as a Mod I have to deal with PMs and Mod reports about the superior patronizing way you deal with people.

Its boring and tedious.

I am asking you to stop....or at least try

[Bayes]

It reminds me of the Numerista and Enigma Sun Square scam on the old VLS forum.  Some of us saw the scam right off, but a high percentage of people were really suckered because of the poor moderation and a lack of common sense.  Now on this forum...they've created a "Safe Zone Nursery" where such posts are not allowed to be criticized.

A few years ago I suggested that Victor create a roulette game on the forum (like the one just introduced). Apart from being a fun thing to have, prospective system sellers would need to demonstrate that their system actually worked as claimed before being allowed to advertise it on the forum. Of course you'd never see such a demonstration, but that would make the obvious point, wouldn't it?

I don't really  understand the purpose of the "baiting" threads. If you have something you believe is a consistent winner why not just post it? Why lead people on a merry dance? It's not as though you need to sell your system by the back door, because there's a seller's section here now, and if you genuinely want to show the way why not just do it without the drip-feed and riddles?

[Bayes]

Its boring and tedious.

It does get tiresome, losing the patronizing attitude and snide remarks would help.

[TurboGenius]

seeing as I've just been made mod again

Congrats !

Yeah it's Turbo's fault. He got me into roulette with his damn 50 Max. 

Love that one !!!!!!!! Still a favorite of mine for various reasons. Glad it sparked your addiction lol.

And...Turbo's the reason some people have taken up smoking. 

LOL - I also provide smoking cessation information - since I smoke, it makes me the perfect person to tell people how to quit...

Can you please shed some light so we all at least can learn something from you like in the good old days.

Sure, just start a thread and ask - I don't want to derail someone else's thread more than it already is. And thanks for the kind words. Cheers

[Tomla021]

vdw is a proven math formula, what I am looking for is people that know how to apply it to gambling and what kind of edge it could produce if any.
This is a discussion not a place for General to regurgitate his theories thatroulette  cant be beat by math ---we know his theory I know steves theory I know turbos theory. It is getting like watching someone throw up over and over again. A lot of people have been let out of prison after DNA was found. As turbo says he doesnt even know what the theory is. The general has never read up on it---so stop the nonsense unless you can add to the conversation or can disprove it.....
If anyone plays with this theory a lesson on how its applied would be great!!!
Thanks for the sheet Nick