Randomer Thoughts

[falkor2k15]

Natural? I guess it could be viewed that way. It simply depends on how you look at it. It's only "natural" when you choose to define a cycle by termination due to a repeating dozen. If I choose to close out a cycle by some other definition then the "naturalness" changes into something else. It all depends on your definition of the term - that was my main point really.

Exactly! Sorry I didn't know you tried to make that point before...

As for the lines, I think Pri plays both lines (6 numbers) and quads. Note that Pri uses the term "quad", and again, this is ambiguous and confusing to some - me in the beginning. I have always heard the term "quad" used as a synonym for "corner", i.e. a 4-number grouping. But Pri uses it as a definition of 9 numbers. Why? Who knows? Best guess - because, excluding the zero, there are 4 ways to create groupings of 9 numbers and since there is no official term for this grouping in roulette as there is no such defined bet it was necessary to define a term so "quad" is what she decided on. Fair enough - but it was never actually stated and we had to figure out from context.

Same thing happened to me... I couldn't figure out what everyone meant by "quads" then it hit me later that the board had been divided into 4 (I had never thought of that selection before!)

[Priyanka]

Same thing happened to me... I couldn't figure out what everyone meant by "quads" then it hit me later that the board had been divided into 4 (I had never thought of that selection before!)

By the way, I didnt coin this term.

link:://betselection.cc/street-4/quad-cycle/

and neither was I the first to play with 9 number sets.

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=8713.msg75142#msg75142

[psimoes]

It´s three streets, so just call it "threets" 

[NextYear]

The way Turner explain it... All clear there...
I am out of questions after first post!

Way to go...

[NextYear]

Btw Turner, how you did that fixed upper part in Excel?

I mean it is great tool - upper few rows stayed fix, while others are scrolling...!

[Turner]

Btw Turner, how you did that fixed upper part in Excel?

I mean it is great tool - upper few rows stayed fix, while others are scrolling...!

Its freeze panes in view
Cheers

[NextYear]

Thanks, very useful!

[Herby]

Hallo falkor,

may you want to tell us what the following line could mean:
Defined by 3 to 1: 155 2: 441 3: 561 4: 157

3 : repeating Quad ?
2: Cycle Length =2 ?

Thanks

[falkor2k15]

By the way, I didnt coin this term.

link:://betselection.cc/street-4/quad-cycle/

and neither was I the first to play with 9 number sets.

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=8713.msg75142#msg75142

But you're the first to play in finite, natural, cycles?

[Priyanka]

maybe Priyanka is suggesting that we can get rid of one of the cycles when playing?

Am not suggesting anything Tom.  But that is a good idea I could include. Thanks.

Have I understood it right?

Yes Rmore.  Perfect.

We have seen that VdW is not of any use of we use it in spins. I am making my write up on my attempt at using VdW in events and not spins. Whenever is ready I will post it. That will be my next post. 

[Turner]

Priyanka

Was this correct?. Ive struggled to get a de facto description of what you call cycles. I need to get it 100% each stage

I dont do "Ill come back to that"

I was specifically referring to cycle 3

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its "what ends the cycle" and "how long is it"

123 is still going but 1,2 or 3 will define it for a cycle of 3
1231 is a cycle of 3 and 1 defines it
1233 is a cycle of 3 and 3 defines it
1232 is a cycle of 3 and 2 defines it

123, 321,231, 132 etc all will be cycle 3 but arnt defined yet 

1322 is is a cycle of 3 and 2 defines it

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and 112331232 is a cycle of 1...followed by a cycle of 2 followed by a cycle of 3

cheers

[falkor2k15]

That would be great Priyanka as I'm really clueless about VdW... my last guess at where it's use may lie: perhaps when playing EC + Dozens we can follow two different APs and interchange between them (not sure how to take advantage of having that choice of branching our APs in different directions). The other possibility might lie with the 3 uniques extracted from the 4 "quad" cycle lengths; since we are looking to form an AP of 1,2 or 3 - any of those can give us a win and we can cover 2/3 instead of having to guess just a single AP. Even then it's all quite hazy...

[Priyanka]

I dont do "Ill come back to that"

No problems Turner. See if this helps.

[Turner]

ahhhh....thats new to me

Cheers

so 1123313  is 1-3-2 

[falkor2k15]

No problems Turner. See if this helps.

Nice presentation skills!