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Started by The General, May 13, 12:20 PM 2016

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Quote from: praline on May 19, 02:55 PM 2016
OK, boys and girls :twisted:

I'm the smartest student in Priyanka's class

My great idea that I mentioned before, turned into "Priyanka's method".

As said before "... don't complicate...".


Give me sequence of numbers and I will play them like she would
Thanks for offering this demo! Here's some live numbers I found:

Number
11
16
11
18
12
7
35
28
9
18
0
19
3
15
20
21
15
20
7
7
12
2
8
24
16
30
31
7
8
34
7
1
15
31
17
32
25
35
35
35
13
30
16
13
25
13
22
25
37
23
33
3
16
22
2
21
0
30
17
22
20
32
28
31
18
1
5
3
16
16
31
32
13
4
1
6
12
0
32
20
0
34
6
15
30
16
11
21
36
8
23
22
4
2
14
16
24
32
7
22
5
9
25
10
11
9
23
22
35
18
28
33
33
10
3
12
2
37
23
23
1
35
6
13
37
30
6
19
1
18
8
27
21
31
17
0
6
29
27
0
2
34
26
23
5
12
9
3
15
35
10
25
35
32
17
36
9
35
29
19
32
30
30
3
32
36
5
34
2
8
29
30
20
9
16
11
18
30
0
27
15
27
32
34
30
31
26
10
12
11
20
23
25
5
12
29
23
10
17
12
4
24
26
5
23
32
32
14
27
2
33
25
37
7
20
25
3
22
36
30
21
7
33
10
26
23
32
32
6
34
21
1
25
16
11
16
32
18
26
23
2
2
1
28
22
28
37
35
33
6
16
13
20
29
8
12
2
7
30
1
20
33
21
8
8
27
12
21
33
24
22
27
7
3
28
15
24
33
12
20
15
11
19
5
27
6
4
4
11
14
17
15
5
4
36
0
32
18
16
28
9
9
27
0
25
18
6
5
1
29
31
30
2
14
13
2
26
22
31
29
0
23
21
32
13
25
26
14
34
4
29
21
23
35
25
3
19
27
21
33
12
21
11
3
14
14
14
34
29
6
35
9
20
3
11
4
14
7
9
27
1
35
25
11
29
13
1
17
34
12
26
29
20
21
5
19
3
0
1
10
32
27
3
14
23
25
24
35
14
35
21
17
34
23
15
0
15
14
33
27
28
11
4
9
20
21
33
15
19
20
12
31
32
6
3
6
27
7
26
23
14
35
30
11
24
25
0
5
18
10
17
35
0
4
6
11
25
15
1
9
36
6
12
35
27
18
33
22
35
29
0
0
25
24
7
7
2
32
19
34
7
5
25
3
17
1
0
6
27
7
19
20
29
21
4
16
10
34
35
10
12
7
0
23
33
3
28
32
21
36
18
15
28
6
1
20
31
0
14
22
25
36
15
2
6
4
24
26
5
35
3
3
9
24
29
3
14
12
25
23
23
12
35
32
14
11
25
2
16
36
30
36
5
25
12
4
33
25
30
5
34
35
23
25
17
14
31
21
37
19
26
0
14
17
35
34
7
22
37
19
32
6
22
7
35
36
30
26
23
28
30
16
33
9
22
37
1
18
10
29
32
6
2
35
27
10
19
34
27
34
6
7
10
34
10
21
0
37
29
8
31
4
23
37
22
16
11
14
4
14
2
34
37
32
32
11
16
13
2
26
33
15
30
30
2
27
27
6
13
22
11
37
21
25
3
18
5
8
13
5
0
19
15
22
28
13
29
21
14
14
8
8
18
10
14
22
29
4
37
16
24
27
5
23
12
29
22
20
26
34
30
18
4
31
0
2
25
37
1
19
37
31
7
21
18
13
0
27
10
13
27
28
6
26
11
9
29
33
9
26
19
37
19
11
3
28
6
6
20
4
5
32
17
32
12
28
14
21
10
35
1
8
37
31
13
2
20
10
5
20
7
37
14
35
2
8
36
32
12
8
30
8
20
33
30
7
37
8
2
24
14
16
17
18
19
28
35
20
2
31
29
37
32
16
25
13
10
19
30
15
20
6
23
37
5
23
33
13
27
34
0
6
1
9
8
34
23
11
28
19
21
23
30
30
17
11
5
34
6
2
13
30
2
27
20
6
34
34
0
24
19
17
4
14
20
3
23
0
30
26
13
28
3
32
5
4
17
3
16
23
6
6
6
34
8
13
10
4
32
26
16
37
11
24
35
13
10
31
8
36
36
36
6
32
19
22
7
20
26
20
5
5
32
35
22
1
22
6
9
33
8
15
17
15
15
30
11
14
11
22
18
6
37
20
12
11
30
3
15
21
26
10
3
17
16
7
19
15
26
37
35
11
29
19
21
7
21
4
12
5
26
33
32
22
18
14
20
22
21
25
15
34
9
12
23
36
17
11
22
11
22
3
26
17
12
12
30
18
0
30
16
8
27
24
24
17
20
35
31
30
28
16
9
37
16
12
12
2
18
4
10
28
12
36
19
27
29
0
27
9
36
3
19
12
16
4
8
36
13
21
6
14
37
1
1
13
28
35
15
27
11
27
17
1
14
28
7
21
3
7
31
16
7
33
19
10
5
16
19
3
34
34
35
20
6
1
33
16
37
9
27
14
12
21
23
28
5
26
24
19
12
9
31
5
13
17
19
12
12
29
1
16
33
24
37
33
33
3
19
7
36
32
24
14
24
22
3
23
28
11
21
35
11
17
9
32
8
6
0
6
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27
5
8
3
10
32
25
6
15
18
33
24
12
11
2
6
3
19
27
14
7
29
21
18
18
13
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22
5
20
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20
12
7
24
21
21
36
17
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33
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14
30
29
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30
32
28
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17
10
32
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9
7
2
6
31
35
33
10
16
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11
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34
1
31
18
2
25
2
14
23
24
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36
5
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34
6
6
0
31
14
21
20
7
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28
10
32
24
3
26
34
24
14
7
27
19
20
19
29
25
11
0
27
11
33
22
7
33
27
17
16
0
0
25
35
10
5
17
24
32
18
9
21
31
20
30
35
5
34
11
26
9
32
18
24
2
29
33
22
25
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19
12
33
11
20
21
19
8
13
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13
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22
6
17
37
4
15
26
1
17
18
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5
26
32
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24
1
34
2
8
16
7
36
5
20
1
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23
15
19
1
17
36
14
24
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27
15
13
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32
12
16
12
23
16
11
24
9
16
15
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6
22
34
3
0
29
26
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30
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28
16
13
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26
15
35
3
14
31
19
22
31
34
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19
2
37
34
19
9
37
0
20
11
1
28
11
30
29
20
26
19
7
31
24
21
35
33
23
1
37
18
35
22
0
26
19
24
12
9
25
23
9
18
28
7
31
24
32
10
9
19
33
36
5
6
4
34
31
18
21
37
28
2
6
27
4
9
2
6
23
30
25
20
20
10
32
9
32
19
4
4
6
26
29
11
28
29
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35
25
12
33
0
1
13
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31
30
19
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19
33
15
3
17
12
23
31
5
33
18
20
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34
7
1
36
24
5
30
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31
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23
26
18
36
4
22
33
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33
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33
12
18
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30
28
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27
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25
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20
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22
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8
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32
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2
3
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6
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37
31
34
20
32
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9
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16
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37
33
16
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15
11
37
17
17
15
29
27
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25
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17
20
28
2
27
33
27
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36
25
28
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28
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6
2
18
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25
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33
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17
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27
19
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29
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15
19
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"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

praline

Quads
[reveal]
number   WL   quad to bet                    bankroll

11
16
11                       2                 
18              w      2                              +9
12              w      2                               +18
7                 L                                      +15
35                        3
28               L                                       +12
9
18                      1-2-4
0                  L     1-2-4                        +3
19                L                                      -6
3
15                           4
20                 L     1-2-4                       -9
21                 L                                     -18
15                          3-2
20                  w                                  -12
7
7                               2-3-4
12                  w         1-2                      -9
2                    w         2-3-4                  -3
8                    L              1                     -12
24                  L                                     -15
16                                  4
30                   w                                   -6
31
7
8                                 2-3-4
34                   w             1-4                 -3
7                      w                                   +3
[/reveal]

sorry i expected less spins :thumbsup:

something like this
will try to do more tomorrow
also those spins are single zero, so profit will be slower
I don't have TheHolyGrail.

falkor2k15

Keep practising hard - you'll be very good one day!  :thumbsup:
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

praline

Dear Falkor, if I'm right, and Priyanka will permit me to talk about solution, you will be first to find this out.
I don't have TheHolyGrail.

TurboGenius

Quote from: praline on May 19, 06:28 PM 2016
Dear Falkor, if I'm right, and Priyanka will permit me to talk about solution, you will be first to find this out.

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Priyanka

Quote from: praline on May 19, 06:28 PM 2016
Dear Falkor, if I'm right, and Priyanka will permit me to talk about solution, you will be first to find this out.
Who am I to curb the right of free speech.  :ooh:
Disclaimer : Roulette systems are subject to laws of probability. If you are not sure about the effects of it, please refer to link:://:.genuinewinner.com/truth. Don't get robbed by scammers.

praline

QuotePriyanka:
I am a real fan of the saying - "If you feed a hungry man a fish, you will make his stomach full once. If you teach him how to catch a fish, you will kill his hunger for his lifetime"
I don't have TheHolyGrail.

praline

Just don't want to be like other forumers, claiming "I know how to win but I will just shit in your topic" ... there are a lot of them in this forum


1. download generous gift from Priyanka called "Cycles.xls"
2. Delete all random numbers
3. Input numbers from ALL Priyanka's videos
4.write all bets that she made in front of numbers
5. Using CL and VdW find relation between those bets
I don't have TheHolyGrail.

praline

Another tip

There is no EC or Dozen bets. All bets are just different Ways to cover quads that we want to bet

Example
6 units on LOW + 3units on QUAD4 = 3units on quad1 + 3units on quad2 + 3units on quad4
I don't have TheHolyGrail.

MoneyT101

Kudos to you Praline  :thumbsup:
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

Tomla021

would using vdw on same /different help?
"No Whining, just Winning"

praline

I'm sorry, guys. ..  I was wrong, that is not Priyanka's strategy  :(

Please accept my apologizes, everybody.
I don't have TheHolyGrail.

praline

Quote from: Tomla021 on May 20, 11:03 AM 2016would using vdw on same /different help?
Priyanka, wrote that its an original way of betting, but S/D won't give you any advantage
I don't have TheHolyGrail.

maestro

Law of the sixth...<when you play roulette there will always be a moron tells you that you will lose to the house edge>

Priyanka

No worries praline.

How often have you seen  that when you give things some time, it gets settled on its own. I think Bayes has summed up most of the questions raised. It is a thin line. And anything that is a thin line is subject to views. As I earlier said, my view point on this subject can be best described as “confused”. And as professor Winkel keeps saying when in doubt, leave it out and that is exactly I am doing by not giving it much of an importance. Bayes also mentioned about mathematical models. While we are looking for something that disobeys two “FACTS”, Maestro hinted something here in this thread……

As there are no hints allowed, lets see what that phenomenon says. May be he is pointing to something else, but am sure as he mentioned about repeats, it will be something along these lines. After some back and forth, I think I have now got a grip on how cycles are defined. Thanks for all those questions which helped me put a very strict definition of cycles. Now in the future if I had any doubt on what is a cycle, I can always come back to that picture. With that information all taken in, I would like to draw the same tree to get me how the numbers look for in a quad. Any one has a doubt on what a Quad is, according to Turner there are four quads in roulette carpet and every quad comprises of three streets. 1-9 is quad 1, 10-18 is quad 2, 19-27 is quad 3 and 28-36 is quad 4.  Four sets of outcomes that are equally likely (?!) and independent (?!). Yes they are FACTS, so we can always assume them to be true (?!).

Because they are equally likely and independent, the cycle length probabilities are as below.

Cycle of length 1 = ¼. Very straightforward. We need to get a repeat and the probability of same quad repeating is one in 4 outcomes.
Cycle of length 2 = We want any three other than the first quad to appear (3/4) and we want one of these two quads to follow (2/4). Probability of length 2 = 3/8
Cycle of length 3 = Again, we want three other than the first quad to appear (3/4), followed by two quads not in the first two to follow (2/4), followed by one of these three quads to re-appear(3/4). The probability is 9/32.
Cycle of length 4 = Same as length 3, the only thing is we need the last step there to be the fourth unique quad (1/4 instead of ¾). The probability is 3/32.

It gets complex as we defined 4 (quad) instead of 3 (dozen) variables. It will get even complex if the number of variables increase, but we have established that the rules are the same. Now only in the last post we established the FACT that the odds for an event are constant irrespective of the event. Treating every quad cycle as an event, we have 4 different outcomes, but not all of them are equally likely. Huh! Did we just break the first assumption? I think YES, but one can disagree. What is the applicability? Is that something that can be turned into something playable? Two questions I don’t know the answer at this point in time. But one solid concept to be added to the notebook where the outcomes are not equally likely.
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