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TurboGenius · May 26, 10:26 PM 2016

Quote from: RouletteGhost on May 26, 09:00 PM 2016
was just going to post something tag team related. lol

lol

The General · May 26, 10:43 PM 2016

What can I say, all of the system guys love me.

thelaw · May 26, 11:29 PM 2016

Quote from: The General on May 26, 10:43 PM 2016
What can I say, all of the system guys love me.

Hey..........me too!!!

PeaBea65 · May 26, 11:45 PM 2016

Good luck with that thelaw. If you can't beat them join them.

Steve · May 27, 01:55 AM 2016

Quote from: thelaw on May 26, 09:58 PM 2016general went from 13 applauds to 44

can you say "inside job"

Sorry for the late response. I can confirm besides one "applaud" I gave him a few weeks ago, I have nothing to do with General's Karma. However I did notice he had severe changes in Karma. First it went extremely negative overnight about a week or so ago. Nobody seemed to complain about that. And now it went the other way. Again I have nothing to do with either.

I'm not going to argue about the point. It's nothing to do with me. I did have a karma log applied so I could see who votes what and when, but it caused problems with the forum so I disabled it.

thelaw · May 27, 08:44 AM 2016

Quote from: Steve on May 27, 01:55 AM 2016
Sorry for the late response. I can confirm besides one "applaud" I gave him a few weeks ago, I have nothing to do with General's Karma. However I did notice he had severe changes in Karma. First it went extremely negative overnight about a week or so ago. Nobody seemed to complain about that. And now it went the other way. Again I have nothing to do with either.

I'm not going to argue about the point. It's nothing to do with me. I did have a karma log applied so I could see who votes what and when, but it caused problems with the forum so I disabled it.

So you have nothing to do with the karma system...........but you disabled part of it?

.............................sounds legit.

Steve · May 27, 09:13 AM 2016

Makes no difference what you think you know. The smf karma system does not log karma actions by default. It needs the custom mod at link:://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=2338 but it conflicted somehow and caused an error whenever a karma vote was made, so I had to remove it. Id love to know who has been smiting me, but unfortunately as the mod doesnt work, I dont know who votes what. I still have my suspicions. Im devastated.

Turner · May 27, 09:18 AM 2016

Quote from: Steve on May 27, 09:13 AM 2016
Makes no difference what you think you know. The smf karma system does not log karma actions by default. It needs the custom mod at link:://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=2338 but it conflicted somehow and caused an error whenever a karma vote was made, so I had to remove it. Id love to know who has been smiting me, but unfortunately as the mod doesnt work, I dont know who votes what. I still have my suspicions. Im devastated.

I think its got a bug Steve. I have 5 smites but clearly everyone likes me so it has to be an error

To be fair....I havnt give any smites to anyone

thelaw · May 27, 03:09 PM 2016

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that it happened to the General.

Wonder what Steve would be saying about this if it was Kav and Reyth?

No worries.......back to Roulette.......oops...sorry..........I mean, anything but Roulette!!!

Nickmsi · May 27, 03:20 PM 2016

Intermission is over.

Even though Priyanka is not hinting in this thread, I still find myself quite confused trying to figure out what to bet, ie, VDW, Quads, Dozen Cycles, a
combination etc.

When confused I go back to the basics and then when I thoroughly understand, I move forward.

First, we are betting a Non Random method. To refresh our memories, we have

1. Random Methods, ie, waiting for a repeater, betting a number will wake up, following a trend, etc.
2. Non Random Methods
A. Physics, wheel bias
B. MATH and Statistical

I am just concentrating on the MATH part for now.

The MATH is the VDW (Van de Waerden) Theorem.

This is not a "gimmick". It is a proven mathematical formula that says you will ALWAYS have an Arithmetic Progression of one of 2 colors in 9 attempts (spins). I repeat, ALWAYS, that means every 9 spins you will have a winner.

Here's how you play. If the next spin will complete an AP you bet, if not, no bet.
It is that simple and yet so powerful.

I can hear most of you say but Nick, it is still a 50/50 chance. It is NOT if you persevere and figure out the many ways you can use the VDW.
Einstein said "It is not that I'm smart, it is just that I stay with problems longer".

In the spirit of not hinting, I have attached ONE of the many ways to use the VDW. This wins more than it loses, so if that is your definition of a Holy Grail, then so be it.

It is all Flat Betting, 1 unit per bet.

I have also attached a 50,000 spin graph of Nick's VDW.

This system is made for my bot as it is boring, tedious, does not win much/spin and takes time to accumulate.

Look at the sheet and see what it does and think how you can improve it.

Then think, how can I use the VDW with Statistics or on a mutual bet (where both sides can complete an AP in next spin) can we bet something else? A Quad, a Double Dozen, unique numbers, etc.

Hope this helps.

Nick

donik7777 · May 27, 03:28 PM 2016

Hi Nick!

Very appreciate you for effort!
Great man!

Best regards!

RouletteGhost · May 27, 03:29 PM 2016

Hello nick

If it is guaranteed within 9 spins why no progression?

Nickmsi · May 27, 03:34 PM 2016

Thanks Donik7777

RG, yes progressions is another way to use the VDW. The spreadsheet has a Progression Divisor now set at 1,000 which is Flat Betting.

If you change that to .95 you will get basically a Martingale.

I chose not to use any progression as I wanted to show that the "Bet Selection" was the key to success.

Cheers

Nick

RouletteGhost · May 27, 03:38 PM 2016

Quote from: Nickmsi on May 27, 03:34 PM 2016
Thanks Donik7777

RG, yes progressions is another way to use the VDW. The spreadsheet has a Progression Divisor now set at 1,000 which is Flat Betting.

If you change that to .95 you will get basically a Martingale.

I chose not to use any progression as I wanted to show that the "Bet Selection" was the key to success.

Cheers

Nick

If this has been explained maybe you can refer me to the post

But what is considered an arithmetic progression of a color

TurboGenius · May 27, 03:40 PM 2016

Quote from: RouletteGhost on May 27, 03:29 PM 2016If it is guaranteed within 9 spins why no progression?

lol

Quote from: Nickmsi on May 27, 03:20 PM 2016This is not a "gimmick". It is a proven mathematical formula that says you will ALWAYS have an Arithmetic Progression of one of 2 colors in 9 attempts (spins). I repeat, ALWAYS, that means every 9 spins you will have a winner.

Oh that damn 0 and sometimes 0 and 00 - They just don't factor this stuff in. Sighs
not ALWAYS !! not always ! and that's how it works

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