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[Priyanka]

what do these "-- -- --" rows mean that occur every so often?

I believe they just denote dealer change from the Wiesbaden spins download. 

Falkor - All your research you are doing on cycles will do nothing but different segmentation of data and all of them will abide by the rules of probability and payouts evening out. Unless you bring in another stream of data count them towards some time given away. 

[falkor2k15]

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Some nice ideas there, praline! Would be nice if you could devise something using 4 repeats of the individual quads as opposed to the cycle lengths. That way bets would be placed more frequently.

[falkor2k15]

I believe they just denote dealer change from the Wiesbaden spins download. 

Falkor - All your research you are doing on cycles will do nothing but different segmentation of data and all of them will abide by the rules of probability and payouts evening out. Unless you bring in another stream of data count them towards some time given away.

Priyanka, you suggesting we can only win with parallel games? What can you tell us about the nature of the 2nd stream that we need to bring in regarding your quads videos? For example, are the 2 streams both derived from the flow of quads alone - or must one be accompanied by a completely different stream that is derived from either the dozens or lines?

[falkor2k15]

yes it is.

track number of repeat    for cycle lengts. when cycle lenght reach 4 repeats i bet for that lenght.

where there are two cycle lenghts to bet, we bet them in ascending order. 23 first 2 then 3, 34 first three than 4, 24 first 2 than 4.

i was thinking to track lenght 3 with lenght 4 like one lenght. we would have a = cl2    and    b=cl3 + cl4.    for A we bet definig dozen, for B we bet two opposite dozens.    will test this and post results soon

I ran some stats on when a cycle length reaches a count of 4 repeats, which cycle length will then go to 5?

X Cycle length = 4
Cycle length 1 then reaches 5 first (%)
Cycle length 2 then reaches 5 first (%)
Cycle length 3 then reaches 5 first (%)
Cycle length 4 then reaches 5 first (%)
Total

1   
799   58.62068966
384   28.17314747
176   12.91269259
4   0.293470286
1363   
   
2   
269   8.013106941
2742   81.68007149
343   10.21745606
3   0.089365505
3357   
   
3   
162   8.866995074
512   28.0240832
1151   62.99945265
2   0.109469075
1827   
   
4   
12   14.63414634
39   47.56097561
14   17.07317073
17   20.73170732
82   

There's some definite bias there - 81% for CL2!!  If CL2 was on 4 and the rest of the CLs were on 1 then I bet that bias would be even higher still...

When you got ratios that high why would you need a parallel game to go with it!? 

[RouletteGhost]

I ran some stats on when a cycle length reaches a count of 4 repeats, which cycle length will then go to 5?

X Cycle length = 4
Cycle length 1 then reaches 5 first (%)
Cycle length 2 then reaches 5 first (%)
Cycle length 3 then reaches 5 first (%)
Cycle length 4 then reaches 5 first (%)
Total

1   
799   58.62068966
384   28.17314747
176   12.91269259
4   0.293470286
1363   
   
2   
269   8.013106941
2742   81.68007149
343   10.21745606
3   0.089365505
3357   
   
3   
162   8.866995074
512   28.0240832
1151   62.99945265
2   0.109469075
1827   
   
4   
12   14.63414634
39   47.56097561
14   17.07317073
17   20.73170732
82   

There's some definite bias there - 81% for CL2!!  If CL2 was on 4 and the rest of the CLs were on 1 then I bet that bias would be even higher still...

When you got ratios that high why would you need a parallel game to go with it!? 

[falkor2k15]

Below is a transcript of Priyanka's latest 2 vids: The Journey parts 1 and 2. I don't think we've any chance of understanding these at all though. Besides the opening bet of each cycle all other bets are totally alien. I spent more hours on cycles than anyone else, so if I ain't got a bloody clue then seldom others will have a bloody clue either... 

S/D	Def by	Cycle	Number	Dozen	Comments	Amount
		3	30	3
		31	7	1
		312	13	2
	2	3122	16	2	End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens	0.4
		21	5	1	Bet Opposite of last 2 Dozens	0.2
d	1	211	8	1	End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens	0.4
		13	33	3	Bet Dozens 2,3	0.4
d	3	133	29	3	End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens	0.4
		31	11	1	Bet last Dozen	0.2
		312	20	2	No bet	-
d	2	3122	16	2	End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens	0.4
		21	5	1	Bet last Dozen	0.2
		213	31	3	Bet last Dozen	0.2
s	2	2132	15	2	End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens	0.4
s	2	22	16	2	Bet last Dozen	0.5
		23	35	3	Bet Dozens 1,3	0.7
d	3	233	28	3	End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens	0.4
		32	21	2	Bet last Dozen	0.6
		321	6	1	Bet Dozens 1,3	2
s	3	3213	29	3	End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens	0.4
		31	7	1	Bet Dozen 3	0.6
		312	17	2	Bet Dozens 2,3	2
s	3	3123	31	3	Bet Dozen 3	0.2
		31	1	1	Bet Dozen 3	0.2
s	3	313	27	3	End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens	0.4
		31	11	1	Bet Dozen 3	0.6
		312	21	2	Bet Dozens 1,2	2
d	2	3122	22	2	End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens	0.4
		21	5	1	Bet Dozen 2	0.2
d	2	212	13	2	FINISHED

S/D	Def by	Cycle	Number	Dozen	Comments	Amount
		1	9	1
		13	32	3
	1	131	5	1
		13	32	3
s	1	131	1	1
		13	32	3
		132	16	2
s	1	1321	6	1
		13	36	3
d	3	133	34	3
s	3	33	25	3	End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens	1
		32	17	2	Bet Dozens 1,3	1
		321	3	1	Bet Dozens 1,2	1
d	1	3211	3	1	End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens	1
s	1	11	9	1	End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens	1
		12	21	2	Bet Dozens 1,3	1
d	2	122	20	2	End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens	1
		23	25	3	Bet Dozens 1,3	1
d	3	233	34	3	End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens	1
		31	12	1	Bet Dozens 2,3	1
		312	24	2	Bet Dozens 1,3	1
s	3	3123	25	3	End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens	1
		32	16	2	Bet Dozens 1,3	1
s	3	323	25	3	End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens	1
		31	3	1	Bet Dozens 1,2	1
d	1	311	7	1	End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens	1
		12	15	2	Bet Dozen 3	0.5
		123	36	3	Bet Dozens 2,3	1
d	3	1233	33	3	No bet
s	3	33	26	3	End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens	1
		32	22	2	Bet Dozens 1,3	1
		321	9	1	Bet Dozens 2,3	1
d	1	3211	10	1	End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens	1
		12	16	2	Bet Dozens 1,3	1
s	1	121	8	1	End of Cycle: bet the other Dozens	1
		13	32	3	Bet Dozens 2,3	1
d	3	133	25	3	FINISHED

[NextYear]

Well, if you can't make anything of it, should we even try...?

[falkor2k15]

Tomorrow I am bringing in a parallel game... I've chosen dozens + lines; is that a good choice or should I choose a different combo?

[praline]

If you have some free time. I would ask you to try with quads and low/high (HH HL LH LL).

[praline]

In the first quads video Priyanka is definitly using vdw. Try to write down all cycle lenghts in a row (22314334233),  divide those like apples and pears and you will notice it. But those arent straight vdw bets. I will post my results when I come home.

[Herby]

count them towards some time given away. 

Hi Priyanka,
because of my little understanding of the English language I'm not able to find any sense in these words, maybe you spend some more words to this sentence.
TNX
Herby

[falkor2k15]

If you have some free time. I would ask you to try with quads and low/high (HH HL LH LL).

OK, I'll go for that then! 

[Turner]

Hi Priyanka,
because of my little understanding of the English language I'm not able to find any sense in these words, maybe you spend some more words to this sentence.
TNX
Herby

Dont worry, I didnt get it and I am English 

[falkor2k15]

If you have some free time. I would ask you to try with quads and low/high (HH HL LH LL).

Actually, I can't do like that because I never understood it. I can use High/Low cycles - only distance of 2 - but I don't know how to make quads out of those. It wasn't clear:

I have tried various things and have not been able to figure out a way to induce dependencies between parallel games. All thumbs down.
There is one last hope left though which am checking now. It goes like this. It is stiching together of bets. While playing quads I have realised that 1-9, 10-18, 19-27, 28-36 forms quads in terms of spins. But the other way to make quads is by combining results of two spins. Like combining Two ECs like Low(1-18) and high numbers(19-36). The combinations are LL, HH, LH and HL. Here I could potentially have two streams one as a stream of quads with teh above combinations and other as a stream of ECs made of L and H. Because they are formed of same elements they are dependent. I am sure there is some playability I can figure out between these two streams and cycles, so working on it.  #ParallelGames #Dependencies #ECs #StitchingBets #Quads #Cycles
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=17014.225

[falkor2k15]

praline, you got an example of making Quads from HL?