The effect of what you post

[RouletteGhost]

I can imagine it will be a few false prophets and lots and lots of followers who kiss their asses and beg
for more clues to the Grail.

how bout no

I'd never tolerate that

[TurboGenius]

how bout no

I'd never tolerate that

lol
No way, I see something like that as the kids running through the school with no teachers allowed lol.
Would be the most non-productive thing I can imagine.

[RouletteGhost]

Would be the most non-productive thing I can imagine.

so in essence you think I am a moron?

[Steve]

I'd never tolerate that

And when you get rid of the member who's so obviously full of shit, other members will attack you and accuse you of having a hidden agenda. Then they'll continue to follow the "roulette god" to another forum. And a few months later, everyone will know they're full of shit too. Then the whole cycle will continue again. I know because it has happened many times.

Then what will you do when other members create their own version of the system, with a different name? Should you as admin say "hey guys, its the same system and we know it doesnt work". Or should you just shut up? I mostly just shut up and let people do their own thing.

You know rg, there's a new hg every week on forums. Mostly experienced players ignore them. It's only a relatively small amount of time any of us say "excuse me, but it wont work because..."

[Priyanka]

It's only a relatively small amount of time any of us say "excuse me, but it wont work because..."

If i may ask Why do you ignore most of the time and tell only a small amount of time. Why not most of the time. Personal choice?

[Steve]

If i may ask Why do you ignore most of the time and tell only a small amount of time. Why not most of the time. Personal choice?

1. Many people don't want to listen, or simply don't care.

2. I'm not interested in helping people who don't want help.

3. I have more important things to do.

4. I already have links that explain it posted throughout the forum.

[TurboGenius]

so in essence you think I am a moron?

Not at all !
I'm saying that having a forum where you reject people who annoy you (seems to be the kind of people that are pushing the truth) then what do you have ? A bunch of people following false prophets with no one to stop it from happening.
If anyone speaks out against something wrong - they are the enemy or just some annoying person that no one wants to hear from ?
Like I said, it's like a school with no teachers and students running around - which is fine, if that's what you want.
It doesn't make anyone a moron, it means there's no value in it because in the end without truth and facts - there is nothing.

[RouletteGhost]

Not at all !
I'm saying that having a forum where you reject people who annoy you (seems to be the kind of people that are pushing the truth) then what do you have ? A bunch of people following false prophets with no one to stop it from happening.
If anyone speaks out against something wrong - they are the enemy or just some annoying person that no one wants to hear from ?
Like I said, it's like a school with no teachers and students running around - which is fine, if that's what you want.
It doesn't make anyone a moron, it means there's no value in it because in the end without truth and facts - there is nothing.

ok well i will attempt to make this clear

i dont think any of you guys are wrong. you, steve, or the general.

I just think that not everyone wants to play that way.

people enjoy attempting to exploit patterns. for me its fun at least

i get both sides of it

that doesn't mean i "ignore the facts"

I just dont have time to observe 10,000 spins to find a biased wheel. for people who attempt to make a living out of this i feel sorry.

[TurboGenius]

I just think that not everyone wants to play that way.

people enjoy attempting to exploit patterns. for me its fun at least

I would say (and I could be wrong) that 99% of the people on any roulette forum are there to find a way to win.
Be it a method or system or learn about computers or bias wheels, or signature - etc...
I suppose one could make a fun hobby style forum where roulette is chatted about and ideas thrown around without
it being taken seriously because it's all for fun and entertainment - but in the end, people are on these types of forums
to win. To 'beat the game' or 'make a fortune gambling' or "just win dammit for once' (lol).
Gambling is a pretty serious hobby to have, money is money - time is time... if you polled people you would find that
most everyone is looking for that way to win - not a place to hang out and chat about roulette because it's fun.
That's just my opinion, I could be completely wrong.

[RouletteGhost]

I would say (and I could be wrong) that 99% of the people on any roulette forum are there to find a way to win.
Be it a method or system or learn about computers or bias wheels, or signature - etc...
I suppose one could make a fun hobby style forum where roulette is chatted about and ideas thrown around without
it being taken seriously because it's all for fun and entertainment - but in the end, people are on these types of forums
to win. To 'beat the game' or 'make a fortune gambling' or "just win dammit for once' (lol).
Gambling is a pretty serious hobby to have, money is money - time is time... if you polled people you would find that
most everyone is looking for that way to win - not a place to hang out and chat about roulette because it's fun.
That's just my opinion, I could be completely wrong.

I agree with most of that

I wish I never started this game

its consuming

[TurboGenius]

I agree with most of that

I wish I never started this game

its consuming

Lol - I'm like 33 years now into this game, it's always been interesting and I love playing at the casino.
But it can really drive you insane if you take it "too" seriously also - fair enough. But if I went all that time going
down the wrong road the whole time - I would seriously feel like I had wasted my time. I spent most of my time at GG getting angry at people who told me that I was wrong about things - I knew that I was right. In most cases I wasn't.
But it all got me to where I am today.

[RouletteGhost]

so if you bet numbers hitting above expectation thats the right way to play?

however are the odds not the same?

[Steve]

so if you bet numbers hitting above expectation thats the right way to play?

I added this to my site:

Let's say you bet on a coin toss. If you win, I pay you $1. If you lose, you pay me $1. But now imagine if I only paid you $0.50 for wins. The odds of you winning haven't changed, but the payout for you has changed. That's what the "house edge" is.

So in this case, how can you profit?

The odds of you winning will always be 50/50. So you have a 50% chance of LOSING $1, and a 50% chance of WINNING $0.50. You can't just double bet size after losses, because then all you do is increase the amount you risk. Sure you may get lucky and win, but what happens if you lose? You'll lose big. So there is no escaping the unfair payouts UNLESS you know which side of the coin is more likely to appear. Then you would be changing the odds of winning. And if you won much more often than 50% of the time, then the unfair payout wont matter as much.

Ok maybe most of you get it now. And we get that you just want to mess around and play for fun. I'm ok with that. But if you ever want to take it more seriously, then you need to look at increasing your chance of winning. Forget progressions and all that. Focus on predicting the spin outcomes.

[TurboGenius]

so if you bet numbers hitting above expectation thats the right way to play?

You have to be able to pick numbers that are going to show up and avoid playing the numbers that aren't going to show up.
Does this sound like nonsense - maybe. There's fallacy all around and the math people will say it's not possible. I say that it's entirely possible to pick numbers better than 1:38 or 1:37 but I don't want rocks thrown at me either lol 

[PeaBea65]

Having said that, that philosophy doesnt work with Manchester City and Manchester United

Totally agree, everything does seem to change when sport comes into the picture.  Very hard to support both sides in a derby situtation.