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Turner · Dec 23, 06:41 PM 2016

Quote from: Still on Dec 23, 05:27 PM 2016
Actually the world of Christ (reality) is simpler. A world built upon diversity is more complicated. Only for that reason is explaining about the world of Christ (reality) complicated.

Why would you need a Christ to see?. Its one step too far. Open your eyes and observe reality.

We need to move with the times. No need to visit old ideas like Jesus and Flat earths.

No need for devolution. Yes its trendy. Yes its cool and most of all, its key to the peoples favorite pastime. Nostalgia.

Nostalgia aint what it used to be lol

Still · Dec 24, 01:03 AM 2016

Quote from: Turner on Dec 23, 06:41 PM 2016
Why would you need a Christ to see?. Its one step too far. Open your eyes and observe reality.

We need to move with the times. No need to visit old ideas like Jesus and Flat earths.

No need for devolution. Yes its trendy. Yes its cool and most of all, its key to the peoples favorite pastime. Nostalgia.

Nostalgia aint what it used to be lol

So you are maintaining the faith that makes a material world like this "real".

But as I've said, that is as much a religion as any other faith.

What binds so many disparate faiths together is this agreement that this world is real, or is the real one among a list of other possibilities, certainly more real than any reality Jesus tried to describe, which is not considered relevant...even by Christians.

Christians generally insist this world is as real as any world that their God might live in. The point is, they are still interested in "keeping it real", as much or more than the proverbial heaven.

Statements insisting this world is real are not much different from the statements of intent which manifest it to begin with...and simply indicate ongoing loyalty. Such statements carry no weight in the reality Jesus tried to describe...nor with me.

All occupants of this world have such a faith, such loyalty. No surprise there. And it would be a miracle if you opened up your mind to the reality I am trying to describe.

Not sure what you mean why we need Christ to see, as I did not discuss that.

As I've said, Christ is reality, and cannot be seen with eyeballs.

Knowledge provides its own kind of sight and that knowledge comes only from Christ...as there is no knowledge in this world.

With knowledge, one can see Christ, the same as seeing reality.

The opposite of, and substitute for knowledge is faith.

Faith is a gross mockery of knowledge, and is all man has. By faith, man sees the world he wants to see. The general consensus is round planets, but if you wanted only to see flat planets, that may well manifest...FOR YOU...but not necessarily for anyone else. Faith is like that, able to blind you to reality by providing you with all the evidence you want or need to convince you that what you wish for is now the reality. So, faith is deceiving as it manifests imagination into "reality".

For those who can see Christ, they cannot also see "this world", as reality and imagination are incompatible and cannot coexist. And so, to them, what YOU see is irrelevant nostalgia that does not exist and is no longer needed if it ever was.

This is not about being hip or cool.

While Christianity may be irrelevant nostalgia, what I'm saying will still be relevant 2000 years down the strange road of "time".

buffalowizard · Dec 24, 04:11 AM 2016

Still, I don't know if it is lost in translation somewhat, but I'm not understanding your position. At times it sounds as if you are bashing religion and Jesus , and at other parts you sound like you embrace Christ and this other reality that only Christ seers can perceive. It's a little confusing to humble earth dwellers sorry

RouletteGhost · Dec 24, 08:38 AM 2016

You want to see truth?

Smoke DMT

RouletteGhost · Dec 24, 12:36 PM 2016

Quote from: buffalowizard on Dec 24, 04:11 AM 2016
Still, I don't know if it is lost in translation somewhat, but I'm not understanding your position. At times it sounds as if you are bashing religion and Jesus , and at other parts you sound like you embrace Christ and this other reality that only Christ seers can perceive. It's a little confusing to humble earth dwellers sorry

im not the only one

maybe in simplistic terms he can explain what he believes

Still · Dec 24, 03:16 PM 2016

Quote from: buffalowizard on Dec 24, 04:11 AM 2016
Still, I don't know if it is lost in translation somewhat, but I'm not understanding your position. At times it sounds as if you are bashing religion and Jesus , and at other parts you sound like you embrace Christ and this other reality that only Christ seers can perceive. It's a little confusing to humble earth dwellers sorry

I'll try to explain. Might take some time and a couple of posts. Will try to have an answer by/for Christmas.

Turner · Dec 24, 07:18 PM 2016

Quote from: Still on Dec 24, 03:16 PM 2016
I'll try to explain. Might take some time and a couple of posts. Will try to have an answer by/for Christmas.

Cool....will look forward to that.

nottophammer · Dec 24, 07:38 PM 2016

we'll see what your faith,religon and anything else you believe in, when that big space ship turns up and

RouletteGhost · Dec 29, 06:59 PM 2016

Hi

I have confession to make

Planetary bodies are cylindrical and wrapped in plastic

falkor2k15 · Dec 30, 06:08 AM 2016

Guys, you can all spot a con-man on the streets... why can't you spot a con-man politician on your TV screens???

buffalowizard · Dec 30, 07:12 AM 2016

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Dec 30, 06:08 AM 2016
Guys, you can all spot a con-man on the streets... why can't you spot a con-man politician on your TV screens???

Why can't YOU spot the thousands of glaring flaws in your embarrassing belief

RouletteGhost · Dec 30, 09:15 AM 2016

The thing is with technology today you have private citizens that have flown around the earth world

Circumnavigated

If it was 200 years ago you would have more of a chance

RouletteGhost · Dec 30, 09:21 AM 2016

Antarctica is not an ice wall holding in water either lol

People have flown around the world north to south across the poles

"A Pilot from Fredericksburg, Virginia, has flown around the world in a single-engine airplane on a route down the eastern side of the Americas, over the South Pole, across the Pacific Ocean, up the West Coast of the U.S. to Alaska, over the North Pole, and home.

Followers tagged along on social media and an online flight tracker as Bill Harrelson, 68, completed his journey with a landing back where he started in Kinston, North Carolina, the afternoon of Jan. 21. The final leg capped a 24-day adventure that will allow him to claim a speed record that his team said "shatters" a 1987 mark set by Richard D. Norton."

buffalowizard · Dec 30, 09:27 AM 2016

He was in on it and so were all the people following him

Turner · Dec 30, 01:23 PM 2016

Look at these fkin muppets....adding a second onto world time because the rotation of the earth slows..... just to cover up the fact that the earths flat
link:://:.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38470682

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