Outside the box: a different view on roulette numbers

[cht]

Dyksexlic made 26posts here mainly on php, it means he must have posted on vls earlier going back 10yrs.

"Consider the principle a 'conceptual visualisation tool'."...... Dyksexlic

I just made a post about it on the other MoneyT thread the other day. Hmm...

[ati]

I hope there are still a few of us who believe that what rrbb and Priyanka showed is no BS and is really the only way to win consistently. (using math) They both have received way too much attack on this forum for showing a new way of thinking, while the recycled ideas are usually applauded by most members.
These two guys are obviously not scammers, and I don't think they ever wanted anyone to praise their names and call them Gods. There is a very good reason they shared just enough for us to see that there are different ways. Many great minds said over the years that no sane person would share a consistent winning method on a public forum. It would spread like fire, and that would be the end of roulette as we know it.
Last year I have exchanged a few PM's with rrbb, he didn't share any secrets with me, but he asked me to be careful what I post and what I keep to myself. Not that I have any secrets He just thought that I understood more than I really did.
Due to my lack of intelligence I may never be able win at roulette, but I will still believe some people can.

[Drazen]

Oops ! After reading through more I realise I made a mistake of the chronological order of who's who....my apologies.

Why does it matter?

I dont see this anyhow important from a perspective of a person who is trying to figure it all out. The process of understanding the riddle by itself is already complicated enough, let alone relationships between those people.

I think I would be perfectly satisfied if I could play like them, without knowing who are they and why they are playing game of seek in their community 

[cht]

I hope there are still a few of us who believe that what rrbb and Priyanka showed is no BS and is really the only way to win consistently. (using math) They both have received way too much attack on this forum for showing a new way of thinking, while the recycled ideas are usually applauded by most members.

In a warped sense it's a good thing.

These two guys are obviously not scammers, and I don't think they ever wanted anyone to praise their names and call them Gods. There is a very good reason they shared just enough for us to see that there are different ways. Many great minds said over the years that no sane person would share a consistent winning method on a public forum. It would spread like fire, and that would be the end of roulette as we know it.

Dyksexlic, reddwarf, rrbb, priyanka - from one led to the next, each one of them contributed their part on this journey. Personally, I include Winkel in the list.

Last year I have exchanged a few PM's with rrbb, he didn't share any secrets with me, but he asked me to be careful what I post and what I keep to myself. Not that I have any secrets He just thought that I understood more than I really did.
Due to my lack of intelligence I may never be able win at roulette, but I will still believe some people can.

Keep it SIMPLE - it's simple nothing complicated, don't complicate it. At the same time be open-minded, very open-minded and also be creative with your open-mind, the possibilities depend on you alone. Let it come to you in your own time, not today perhaps someday.

[DoctorSudoku]

Aren't rrbb and reddwarf the same person/poster? I thought they were.

[falkor2k15]

Keep it SIMPLE - it's simple nothing complicated, don't complicate it. At the same time be open-minded, very open-minded and also be creative with your open-mind, the possibilities depend on you alone. Let it come to you in your own time, not today perhaps someday.

That's the attitude Priyanka had, and to some extent praline, but it takes away from the appreciation of numbers and nature. There are very many concepts involved here with ever-growing terminology. To keep tarnishing it with "simple" is to take it for granted. That's why I think the HG has been used mostly to bolster people's egos, as there's no passion behind it. I think reddwarf/rrbb was the only person who truly appreciated the complexity and wasn't just out to make money.

[3Nine]

That's the attitude Priyanka had, and to some extent praline, but it takes away from the appreciation of numbers and nature. There are very many concepts involved here with ever-growing terminology. To keep tarnishing it with "simple" is to take it for granted. That's why I think the HG has been used mostly to bolster people's egos, as there's no passion behind it. I think reddwarf/rrbb was the only person who truly appreciated the complexity and wasn't just out to make money.

Comical, really.  If it weren't for YOUR ego you would already have a solution.  Complexity is never the way, yet, all you keep doing is that. Not to mention hacking everyone else's work (especially, Priyankas) and trying to label it your own.  To be blunt, it's always and only about YOU. 

This is my final post here guys.  Wish you all well.  There's not much else for me to see other than the entertainment value of the so-called flat earth nonsense.

Have fun and be well. 

[falkor2k15]

Comical, really.  If it weren't for YOUR ego you would already have a solution.  Complexity is never the way, yet, all you keep doing is that. Not to mention hacking everyone else's work (especially, Priyankas) and trying to label it your own.  To be blunt, it's always and only about YOU. 

This is my final post here guys.  Wish you all well.  There's not much else for me to see other than the entertainment value of the so-called flat earth nonsense.

Have fun and be well.

You're just a "Forum Hater" as Dyksexlic used to say:
link:s://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=8906.0

Not that I take it personally, as I know I'm not the cause of all the hatred in your heart.

"Complexity is never the way, yet, all you keep doing is that. "
So, taking a number, creating a new random stream, having a shuffle of the original stream, and then looking for connections between official dozens and self-created dozens, is not complex? How about all the applications of Pigeonhole Principle:
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=19303.msg180503#msg180503
Is that not complex? It might not need to be just to make a quick buck from a single variation, but true understanding and appreciation of all the concepts, including VdW and Friends' Theorem, is no simple matter.
None of my topics are about me - they are about sharing information - not simple solutions to make a quick buck only to forget about the pioneers (like reddwarf, Dyk) and all their hard work that went into it over several years. Calling it "simple" is to downgrade over 1000 days of deep thought processing and problem solving. Even you admitted to having a few years taken away from you after reading Dyk's post. It's just so arrogant, patronizing, and condescending to render such achievements as "simple", but without empathy you cannot possibly understand.

[3Nine]

Of course this comes at a cost.

What most people do not realise is that a repeat tends to occur on a partition (half, dozen etc) that contained the previous repeat.

Priyanka nicely showed this in one of her posts.

This means that during a cycle there MUST be a bias towards the other partitions (so if the previous repeat was on red, in the cycle after the repeat, there is a small bias towards black).

In the case of the dynamic low/high, this is not the case anymore...

Be aware also: this is purely statistics. You will not be able to win consistently with it. Do not let the law if large numbers get to you!

You may want to read this again since 'someone' was so quick to dismiss it. 

[cht]

You may want to read this again since 'someone' was so quick to dismiss it.

Yea I checked that one out a while back, looks good with lines and I track the ECs stats for bias as well.

[3Nine]

try this for a change:

0. generate the dynamic sequences, while doing so
1. whenever the random number is greater or equal than 19, the roulette number that is pointed at by the second stream is what you do NOT bet on
So basically you start betting on all numbers, except for the roulette numbers that you indirectly get via this rule.

- rrbb

[praline]

try this for a change:

0. generate the dynamic sequences, while doing so
1. whenever the random number is greater or equal than 19, the roulette number that is pointed at by the second stream is what you do NOT bet on
So basically you start betting on all numbers, except for the roulette numbers that you indirectly get via this rule.

- rrbb

How did you interpret this?

[MoneyT101]

I tried it and i didnt gain any advantage

[praline]

maybe it is just a way to show that when it comes to a repeat, the high's from second stream aren't to consider?

[MoneyT101]

maybe it is just a way to show that when it comes to a repeat, the high's from second stream aren't to consider?

First let me clear up how i understood the quote

so 20 hits....in the second stream i wont bet on positions 20-36

24 hits.....i wont bet on positions 24-36

etc

3nine, how did you understand it?