Outside the box: a different view on roulette numbers

[Blood Angel]

Hi, I’m unsure how you worked out the derived dozens.. can you please explain? 
Thanks BA

I didn’t ask the question very well.. I get that DS 3 for example is derived as D2 etc. What I don’t understand is that the
numbers you quote as DS don’t match the first set.. sorry ok my mobile so not easy to show.

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I didn’t ask the question very well.. I get that DS 3 for example is derived as D2 etc. What I don’t understand is that the
numbers you quote as DS don’t match the first set.. sorry ok my mobile so not easy to show.

The derived number relates to the position of the result in the dynamic stream

For example, on spin 3 the result is DS 1. This is in position 3 of the dynamic stream so the derived result is 3.

[mickavelli]

For example, on spin 3 the result is DS 1. This is in position 3 of the dynamic stream so the derived result is 3.

This ^^^

I'm just trying some things mate. Its just another stream you could play. You could also do the same with the 12 streets grouped into 3 etc and play those like dozens... Actually i was thinking we could create 6 groups of 2 that each add up to 13...
Like I said just trying things mate! It's a shame this thread has so many takeaways, yet nobody wants to brainstorm!

[Blood Angel]

The derived number relates to the position of the result in the dynamic stream

For example, on spin 3 the result is DS 1. This is in position 3 of the dynamic stream so the derived result is 3.

Got it thank you.

[Blood Angel]

This ^^^

I'm just trying some things mate. Its just another stream you could play. You could also do the same with the 12 streets grouped into 3 etc and play those like dozens... Actually i was thinking we could create 6 groups of 2 that each add up to 13...
Like I said just trying things mate! It's a shame this thread has so many takeaways, yet nobody wants to brainstorm!

Hi mate. I understand these are just ideas. I need to understand the ideas to try and help as I’ve been looking at this thread for a while. Thanks for your input

[Blueprint]

It's a shame this thread has so many takeaways, yet nobody wants to brainstorm!

Why would that be a good idea? 

[mickavelli]

Got it thank you.

Cool mate

Why would that be a good idea? 

Because n+1 is better than none mate.  Anyway, this whole thread was started with this quote.. "Now lets see if we can come up with some kind of relation (which is indeed based on the pigeonhole principle...)
I don't know what everyone else is exploring but this is what i'm working on mate... So who here has played around with the uniques between repeats that keep getting talked about? Got some ideas

[Blueprint]

Cool mate
Because n+1 is better than none mate.  Anyway, this whole thread was started with this quote.. "Now lets see if we can come up with some kind of relation (which is indeed based on the pigeonhole principle...)
I don't know what everyone else is exploring but this is what i'm working on mate... So who here has played around with the uniques between repeats that keep getting talked about? Got some ideas

Millions of ideas.

[mickavelli]

I reckon we need to add some things to this thread and start with working on them....

"For all who had been following, you would have by now realized that while non-random is good, we often get into a dead-run. An example of a dead-run is below where you are trying to play for a dozen to repeat in 4 spins, you get sequences like 1231, 2311, 3121 etc. As Drazen and Turner rightly pointed out, there is still an opportunity to get these sequences over and over and over again that you can get into a deep hole. The key is how can overcome these dead-runs with a parallel bet or a parallel selection, which is the alternate game played on its own will give you a negative result, but played together will  make this dead-heats into winning combination. "

[Blood Angel]

Hi MoneyT101,

Do you always end that session when you reach +1 ?
Cheers BA

[Person S]

How to prove or disprove the paradox.
There is a bit of math, my level does not allow to understand, but it can be useful for someone.
Interest part - Probabilistic or non-probabilistic induction
The Raven Paradox - link:s://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raven_paradox

[MoneyT101]

Hi MoneyT101,

Do you always end that session when you reach +1 ?
Cheers BA

No and yes....

Yes I played a game where I win each session on +1.  But the problem is I had to wait a lot for my betting opportunities to show up.  Even tho it was short under 12 spins.  Still don’t like the waiting.

So I did some more digging and found a way to play every single spin and just go with the flow but never having to use progression.

Here are results using streets with 200 spins... I didn’t add the zero so should be a Lower

[Blood Angel]

No and yes....

Yes I played a game where I win each session on +1.  But the problem is I had to wait a lot for my betting opportunities to show up.  Even tho it was short under 12 spins.  Still don’t like the waiting.

So I did some more digging and found a way to play every single spin and just go with the flow but never having to use progression.

Here are results using streets with 200 spins... I didn’t add the zero so should be a Lower

Nice going! Thank you

BA

[Person S]

What is the thickest hint you could give us, given our inflamed brain.
Dyslexic mentioned that understanding and observation should help to understand what is happening.
Maybe we do not have this microscope that would see it all at x1000000 magnification, only one thing that people have been looking for for 3-4 years, and she didn’t bring them anything, says so. Sorry it was my anger

[Hairyballs]

Thickest hint Money has given is he has not considered zero in the example he has posted. Considering these are 200 spin data the moment he adds zero into the mix the result is going to go either side of break even. 

Also just wondering whether Money plays with actual money or is it all only on paper?