Outside the box: a different view on roulette numbers

[3Nine]

Hey rrbb,
Been a while, eh?  It's been almost exactly a year now since you wrote, "I will share an excel with you later!"  Just curious if I'll ever see your version of this 'view' 

Hope you're well.

Best,
39

[rrbb]

Hmmm, you'r sure i did not share that sheet?

If so, sorry. On the other hand it is really simple to create yourself.

The idea is this: you start of with the normal sequence: 1, 2, 3, ..., 36, 0.

Every number spun is placed at the beginning of the sequence, and removed fron its previous positition:

E.g:
Number spun: 3. This gives sequence

3, 1, 2, 4, ...

Number spun 36:
36, 3, 1, 2, 4,..., 35, 0

Etc.

Of course, if we would just bet on the straights, well, thats just plain stupid.

The interesting thing however: define a "dynamic low" as the first 18 numbers. What are the odds that a repeater falls within the dynamic low?

A holy grail? No. But what it teaches us:
1. Roulette is not about numbers
2. We are allowed to be creative

In this case we used the birthday paradox to enhance the bias.

Fun isn't it?

[3Nine]

Oh, I'm sure!  Nice reminder though.

[rrbb]

Of course this comes at a cost.

What most people do not realise is that a repeat tends to occur on a partition (half, dozen etc) that contained the previous repeat.

Priyanka nicely showed this in one of her posts.

This means that during a cycle there MUST be a bias towards the other partitions (so if the previous repeat was on red, in the cycle after the repeat, there is a small bias towards black).

In the case of the dynamic low/high, this is not the case anymore...

Be aware also: this is purely statistics. You will not be able to win consistently with it. Do not let the law if large numbers get to you!

[falkor2k15]

Of course this comes at a cost.

What most people do not realise is that a repeat tends to occur on a partition (half, dozen etc) that contained the previous repeat.

Priyanka nicely showed this in one of her posts.

This means that during a cycle there MUST be a bias towards the other partitions (so if the previous repeat was on red, in the cycle after the repeat, there is a small bias towards black).

In the case of the dynamic low/high, this is not the case anymore...

Be aware also: this is purely statistics. You will not be able to win consistently with it. Do not let the law if large numbers get to you!

This part is not true. For example with Dozen Cycles:

Cycle 1: 1233
Cycle 2: 3...

3 has already appeared once, so there's 63% chance that the repeat will be that 3 (73% whatever halve the 3 represents) because the 3 only needs one more hit to repeat. But the previous cycle has nothing to do with that statistic. Carrying over the defining element (known as Principle A) causes some "anomalies" as described in this topic by Priyanka and praline:
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=18814.0

Again, the act of carrying over the defining element isn't responsible for the 63%...
31... the repeat is dependent on the uniques that come before, so here there is more chance of a repeat on 3 or 1 as opposed to 2. Whatever the previous cycle was has nothing to do with it. We can create fresh cycles every time and the stat will hold.

I hope I made that clear? We need to move away from this old world thinking...

[3Nine]

Hey Red,
I've created a private group for select members who want to focus on this 'view' - as I'm doing this by invitation only with people I trust I would love to have you be a part of it if you have time.  The purpose is to optimize and enhance this view as best we can with a bit of group think.

As always, you can reach me via PM or email.

All the best. 

[stringbeanpc]

Interesting concept here by rrbb.

To me this seems somewhat similar to what chance explains here
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=19055.0

I appreciate all explanations about this, so that I can comprehend it better.

Attached is an RX script that rearranges the spins in dynamic sequence as rrbb
explains in the first post. Consider this scipt version 1 to experiment with.

It does this for each of the last 37 spins.

But it also does this for the last 6, 9, 12 & 18 spins

When time permits I will add funcionality to track the position sequence of
staights (last 1 number  will be postion 1)
splits   (last 2 numbers will be postion 1)
streets  (last 3 numbers will be postion 1)
lines    (last 6 numbers will be postion 1)
dozens   (last 12 numbers will be postion 1)
halfs    (last 18 numbers will be postion 1)

This is how I comprehend what rrbb is showing in the example from post 5

Enjoy,

[stringbeanpc]

Here you go, I hope it makes things clearer...

rrbb,

Your example does NOT show either zero or double zero in the sequence.

is it correct to ignore 0 or 00 if either wins ?

otherwise we could have 19 splits, 13 streets, etc.

[3Nine]

Be aware also: this is purely statistics. You will not be able to win consistently with it. Do not let the law if large numbers get to you!

How about them apples?

[3Nine]

The interesting thing however: define a "dynamic low" as the first 18 numbers. What are the odds that a repeater falls within the dynamic low?

and how do we get this to 100%?

[Taotie]

Outside the box: a different view on roulette numbers

Ironically, you have to put it all in the box, otherwise you just end up with a big mess spilled all over the place, like a dog's breakfast.

[Herby]

How about them apples?

Hi 3Nine,
you are Freudianian ?

"apples and pears" or missing an "i" 

(my lousy English leads to misunderstanding)

[3Nine]

Hey Red,
Would love your take on this 'view' for baccarat.  Look forward to chatting again soon.

Best.

[Scarface]

Anyone believe in the Law of Attraction?  Always seems like anytime I'm playing at a table when everyone is rrally positive, and there are alot of "good vibes" I always win

Especially seems true when everyone has their money on the same number

[DoctorSudoku]

Anyone believe in the Law of Attraction?  Always seems like anytime I'm playing at a table when everyone is rrally positive, and there are alot of "good vibes" I always win

Especially seems true when everyone has their money on the same number

Scarface,
Your post raises the age old "chicken and egg" question -- which is the cause and which is the effect.

By invoking the Law of Attraction, you are saying that an overall positive mood at the table is somehow the "cause"of the most heavily bet numbers being hit (the effect).

Well, the converse (opposite) could very well be the case:

A lot of the heavily bet numbers are -- because of random chance -- hitting frequently and that is the "cause" of all the joyous hooting and howling at the table (the effect).

So what is the "chicken" and what is the "egg" in this context?

Hmmmm.